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Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:26 pm

The mug who owned my car before me put the wrong sized tyres on the 15 inch BBS and I’m going to be due for some new rears soon but I’m not gonna put the wrong size on again so this means I’m gonna need to buy 4 new tyres 5 if you include the spare.

I know i could get away with having different sized front and rear tyres but i want a nice set of good performing tyres all round

I’ve been looking at toyos and other such makes but for what it will cost my for 5 good tyres I could spend a tad more and buy some aftermarket wheels such as Lenso BSX’s which come with tyres.

I’m just not sure what to do I really like OE BBS but on the other hand I’d really like some dish going on as well

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Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:30 pm

You can have different sizes front/rear...both tyres and wheels, just they must be the same on the same axle...

What size have you got?
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:33 pm

Fushion_Julz wrote:You can have different sizes front/rear...both tyres and wheels, just they must be the same on the same axle...

What size have you got?
Not sure off the top of my head but i know there wrong the side wall is too big and the fronts rub on full lock.

I know i can have different sizes but when i do things i like to do them properly, plus i want a nice matching set of decent tyres not the budget crap thats on it at the mo
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:45 pm

I think the correct size is 205 55 R15 for BBS. Some folk on here have 205 50 R15s on and others have 195s. I think the 195s are the wrong size and the 50s will give you an inaccurate speedo reading.

I put Khumo Ecsta on mine last year and I think they are a great tyre - good match for toyos I'd say. I got 4 of them from black circles fitted for £200ish iirc. They were doing a special price at the time.
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:53 pm

yep..205/55/15 is the correct size (as per OE, anyway)...I used to have 225/50/15 Bridgestone SO2s (on my old E30 325i) and they had no clearance issues on standard suspension...
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:55 pm

Tedswagon wrote: I put Khumo Ecsta on mine last year and I think they are a great tyre - good match for toyos I'd say. I got 4 of them from black circles fitted for £200ish iirc. They were doing a special price at the time.
The Kumo's are no match at all for the Toyo's ive used both of these tyre's and the toyo's are by far better this of course is my opinion from using both of them on my own car for 15k

205/55/15 are the correct size for 15" BBS but 205/50/15 tyres look better and are cheaper.
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:35 pm

I'm in the same boat on this one - my car has wonky tyre sizes. I've got 215/50 on the rear and worked out that these aren't too bad as the rolling circumference is only around 2% less than on 205/55's meaning my speedo will read reasonably accurately still. I've got 195/50 on the front though. Makes the wheels look nicer as the tyre isn't chunky but I think I'd prefer 205/55 all round as per BMW spec.

I've used Khumo's and Toyo's and found the same as the guy above. I thought Khumo's were crap in the wet, but Toyo's were excellent all rounders. Mytyres.co.uk do Toyo Proxies in 205/55 and they were the cheapest price I could find. I might wait a few months till the current tyres are spent then order a set of 4 so I'm running the correct size tyre all round.

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Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:06 pm

205/50 will cause a 3.5% over read, so 3.5mph faster at 100. hardly a big change.
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:27 pm

need 2 tyres myself

bought 2 falkens from etyres.co.uk around december time, im sure i paid £110/120 inc fitting on there, now £73 each 8O , toyo are £78 each

have they gone up r what ?

wheres the best place to get 2 from ?
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Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:37 pm

Just resurrecting this old thread of mine as I’m about to purchase 4 of these from camskill.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php? ... 0s289p1673

Just wanted to confirm really that these are the tyres that a lot of people seem to recommend for an E30 sitting on 15inch BBS and also if anyone knows of a cheaper place I can get hold of em speak now or forever hold your peace.


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Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:00 pm

Yup T1R's are the ones.

I've got some ditch finders on the front of mine and P6000's (which are menat to be shite also) on the rear. Prob be getting T1R's as well in a few weeks. Going to look odd having different size sidewall though :o:
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Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:13 pm

Yup.. 205/55 or 50

50 will give slightly sharper handling
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:34 pm

Got my toyo's fitted the other day and wow what a difference it makes, they grip as much in the wet as my old budget tyres did in the dry

Cheers for the heads up on the right tyre choice guys!
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Sat May 01, 2010 5:34 pm

get some 225/45/16's and wheels to suit!

although alpina reps are shit according to the drama Queen pac man .

just swap the bucket of worms for another shxte merc!

do you own any spanners or impact sockets?
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Sat May 01, 2010 5:48 pm

magpie wrote:get some 225/45/16's and wheels to suit!

although alpina reps are shit according to the drama Queen pac man .

just swap the bucket of worms for another shxte merc!

do you own any spanners or impact sockets?
What are you on about, why would i do that when i've just put new rubber on my 15's :mad:

Me thinks you've been smoking again!

I don’t really get your question about tools, but yes I own a shit load of tools my car never sees a garage I do everything myself with the help of a few mates when needs be.

I get the distinct impression you don’t really like me magpie whats your beef??
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Sat May 01, 2010 5:51 pm

HairyScreech wrote:205/50 will cause a 3.5% over read, so 3.5mph faster at 100. hardly a big change.
Considering an E30 speedo over reads by around 5mph to start with its nearly 10mph at 100mph so it is a bit more dramatic
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Sat May 01, 2010 5:58 pm

you referred to my wheels as junk once when you knew nowt,[one of you early posts]
i'll take it you meant 17" bk's. then you'll be correct!

bbs are good,but not all that freckin ooh my tyres are the wrong size ffs.

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HairyScreech wrote:205/50 will cause a 3.5% over read, so 3.5mph faster at 100. hardly a big change.
Considering an E30 speedo over reads by around 5mph to start with its nearly 10mph at 100mph so it is a bit more dramatic
can that not be corrected ? ie can you take your car somewhere with whatever wheels/tyres on, and they sort it so its 100% correct reading ?

also whats the rough average mileage for a set of toyos on a daily driven e30 318is thats carefully driven ?
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Sat May 01, 2010 7:48 pm

magpie wrote:you referred to my wheels as junk once when you knew nowt,[one of you early posts]
i'll take it you meant 17" bk's. then you'll be correct!

bbs are good,but not all that freckin ooh my tyres are the wrong size ffs.

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I can remember the post your referring to and I don’t think i called them junk iirc I said something along the lines of to many people having knock off Alpina rims which have spoilt the image of genuine ones, plus the fact that I don’t think Alpina rims should be on anything else than an Alpina, I’ve said the same to Rav before when he had Alpenis's on his cabby, don’t mean to cause offence just stating my opinion.

Aint that what internet forums are all about???

I don’t think I’ve ever thrown personal insults our way before have I?
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HairyScreech wrote:205/50 will cause a 3.5% over read, so 3.5mph faster at 100. hardly a big change.
Considering an E30 speedo over reads by around 5mph to start with its nearly 10mph at 100mph so it is a bit more dramatic
can that not be corrected ? ie can you take your car somewhere with whatever wheels/tyres on, and they sort it so its 100% correct reading ?

also whats the rough average mileage for a set of toyos on a daily driven e30 318is thats carefully driven ?
There is a potentiometer on the back of the speedo, which could be tuned to a GPS readout, be carefull you set it with brand new tyres pumped up to the appropriate pressure on a dry day else you could start setting off cameras of the speed variety.

I run T1r's 205/50 R15 front and 205/55 R15 rears, sharper steering at the front, more sidewall flex to keep the rear tyres contact patch more in touch with the ground as the suspension geometry changes under loadings. A new set on a carefully driven car with everything in line and good bushes would see 15-20k depending on your idea of carefull driving/ dry steering etc
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Sun May 02, 2010 1:09 am

e301988325i wrote: I run T1r's 205/50 R15 front and 205/55 R15 rears, sharper steering at the front, more sidewall flex to keep the rear tyres contact patch more in touch with the ground as the suspension geometry changes under loadings. A new set on a carefully driven car with everything in line and good bushes would see 15-20k depending on your idea of carefull driving/ dry steering etc
Good points there Alex - noted for my next tyre change :wink:
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town325i wrote:Considering an E30 speedo over reads by around 5mph to start with its nearly 10mph at 100mph so it is a bit more dramatic
can that not be corrected ? ie can you take your car somewhere with whatever wheels/tyres on, and they sort it so its 100% correct reading ?

also whats the rough average mileage for a set of toyos on a daily driven e30 318is thats carefully driven ?
There is a potentiometer on the back of the speedo, which could be tuned to a GPS readout, be carefull you set it with brand new tyres pumped up to the appropriate pressure on a dry day else you could start setting off cameras of the speed variety.

I run T1r's 205/50 R15 front and 205/55 R15 rears, sharper steering at the front, more sidewall flex to keep the rear tyres contact patch more in touch with the ground as the suspension geometry changes under loadings. A new set on a carefully driven car with everything in line and good bushes would see 15-20k depending on your idea of carefull driving/ dry steering etc
awsome, ill have to look into that then. (and have spare clocks to hand in case i screw up)

tbh, 10mph out at 100 is no worse than a lot of cars as standard, and once your over 70 its all academic anyway, your nicked and you know it, the speedo just tells you the degree of nightstick penetration.
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Sun May 02, 2010 2:21 am

e301988325i wrote:
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town325i wrote:Considering an E30 speedo over reads by around 5mph to start with its nearly 10mph at 100mph so it is a bit more dramatic
can that not be corrected ? ie can you take your car somewhere with whatever wheels/tyres on, and they sort it so its 100% correct reading ?

also whats the rough average mileage for a set of toyos on a daily driven e30 318is thats carefully driven ?
There is a potentiometer on the back of the speedo, which could be tuned to a GPS readout, be carefull you set it with brand new tyres pumped up to the appropriate pressure on a dry day else you could start setting off cameras of the speed variety.

I run T1r's 205/50 R15 front and 205/55 R15 rears, sharper steering at the front, more sidewall flex to keep the rear tyres contact patch more in touch with the ground as the suspension geometry changes under loadings. A new set on a carefully driven car with everything in line and good bushes would see 15-20k depending on your idea of carefull driving/ dry steering etc
i would of thought with a track focused car you would not want side wall flex on the rear causing you to over steer in corners
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Sun May 02, 2010 10:42 am

every one +there dog has BBS,



l@@k even me
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now you try and find some RG alpina reps,they were only in production for around 1 year until alpina themselves took RG to court and they were banned from making any more because they were such a good copy .so i'd say they are rarer than alpina wheels :wink:
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HairyScreech wrote:awsome, ill have to look into that then. (and have spare clocks to hand in case i screw up)

tbh, 10mph out at 100 is no worse than a lot of cars as standard, and once your over 70 its all academic anyway, your nicked and you know it, the speedo just tells you the degree of nightstick penetration.
Well over 100mph = ban in most cases, so accurate is important IMHO
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e301988325i wrote:I run T1r's 205/50 R15 front and 205/55 R15 rears, sharper steering at the front, more sidewall flex to keep the rear tyres contact patch more in touch with the ground as the suspension geometry changes under loadings. A new set on a carefully driven car with everything in line and good bushes would see 15-20k depending on your idea of carefull driving/ dry steering etc
i would of thought with a track focused car you would not want side wall flex on the rear causing you to over steer in corners
You're right Mark, but the only track I've done is the nurburgring :o: , the T1r's with their soft tyre wall are much better suited as a road tyre that works well in all situations (wet, dry, occasional track, progressive breakaway) and is the best tyre value for money bar none IMO.
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Sun May 02, 2010 4:38 pm

They do seem like great tyres, hardly any road noise, really sticky in both wet and dry conditions and a good looking tread pattern to boot
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Sun May 02, 2010 5:24 pm

You've sold them to me with this thread :p prob order a pair in a few weeks.
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