whats mods require for an e30 to beat golf R32.....?

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golf R32 is around 241bhp....so what kind of mods would you have to do to an e30 to push more than 241bhp and beat an R32 ???

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Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:07 am

You wouldn't need 241bhp for a start as the e30 is lighter and has less transmission losses
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:08 am

well you would have to blow it with a 2.5.

why though?
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I'm guessing the E30 is a lot lighter so I reckon a 2.7 or 2.8 conversion.
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S50 :cool:
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:10 am

good point jhonno didnt think about the weight ratios. hmm but would demolish a 325i facelift with a mild chip...haha??

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Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:17 am

ohhh jus curious as i was nearly having a race with an r32 was a car infront of me so i though lets be sensible hit the brakes slow down and he took the different exit to where i was going damn it.

would love to see an e30 with a crazy engine rip an R32. :cool:
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well after a little look on the internet shows 1/4 mile time of 13.8 to 14.2 for a mk5 R32, I'm pretty sure when the previous owner had my car he had a timing ticket from Santa Pod with a quicker time than that, i think it was about 13.5-13.6 :cool:
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:36 am

M30 :twisted: but with a shorter diff, maybe a 3.64 or 3.91
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what about E36 3.2litre - 24v engine - 316bhp i think ????

has that conversion ever been made ???
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billgatese30 wrote:well after a little look on the internet shows 1/4 mile time of 13.8 to 14.2 for a mk5 R32, I'm pretty sure when the previous owner had my car he had a timing ticket from Santa Pod with a quicker time than that, i think it was about 13.5-13.6 :cool:
yeah but a quick time up the strip wont make a quick point to point car .... not necessarily neway
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:47 am

very true, and that's where the 4 wheel drive of the golf will help massively, especially if its wet outside, but in those situations the driver often makes more difference (as I have found out from both perspectives on the track) :D
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billgatese30 wrote:well after a little look on the internet shows 1/4 mile time of 13.8 to 14.2 for a mk5 R32, I'm pretty sure when the previous owner had my car he had a timing ticket from Santa Pod with a quicker time than that, i think it was about 13.5-13.6 :cool:
WTF?! 241 bhp and a shit load of weight.. American sites per chance?!

300bhp in and e30 and Barry was running 13.8's iirc..
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325ix + supercharger :D
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In fact I deffo don't believe.. Same speed in a straight line as a 130i.. Must be US 1/4
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wasn't looking to be honest Jhonno :o
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:44 am

I seem to remember barry running 13.8 also.
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:46 am

I can run faster than a golf R32. I have seen one lose to a 174 hp vr6.
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:56 am

Be careful about 'beating' golf R32's in the midlands. I saw an unmarked police car pull a boy racer on the M6 outside Coventry the other day....

Oh and my car is the e36 3.2 S50 engine. I'd say it'd eat an R32... :cool:
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Nice on Jai, i'll be keeping my eyes peeled for that one.
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It was a dark silvery grey.

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R32s are turtles :cool:

Even a 316i would rip them... just rob the wheels or lock the car and throw away the keys :chuckle:

I personnally couldn't give a toss if a Golf could beat my car. As long as I know I have the better car, which I do...

God damn aweful cars...:puke: Horrible to drive too (well, mk3's and 4's. Dont know anyone rich enough to drive a Mk5!).
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k13 wrote:what about E36 3.2litre - 24v engine - 316bhp i think ????

has that conversion ever been made ???
That'll be the s50. 321bhp, would be nice in an e30. Apparently you can get them to weigh as little as 850kilos (so Ive been told).
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Falkster wrote:
k13 wrote:what about E36 3.2litre - 24v engine - 316bhp i think ????

has that conversion ever been made ???
That'll be the s50. 321bhp, would be nice in an e30. Apparently you can get them to weigh as little as 850kilos (so Ive been told).
I didn't mind the M3 Evo I drove a while back. Very rapid.

TBH, I found that engine and car pretty boring to drive. I'd have an E36 M3 as a daily, but they're nothing special.

Still prefer the little over-roar of my M20's!
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bilun777 wrote:325ix + supercharger :D
That gets my vote!
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Nay wrote:I didn't mind the M3 Evo I drove a while back. Very rapid.

TBH, I found that engine and car pretty boring to drive. I'd have an E36 M3 as a daily, but they're nothing special.

Still prefer the little over-roar of my M20's!
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Jhonno wrote:
Nay wrote:I didn't mind the M3 Evo I drove a while back. Very rapid.

TBH, I found that engine and car pretty boring to drive. I'd have an E36 M3 as a daily, but they're nothing special.

Still prefer the little over-roar of my M20's!
Riiiiight...
Damn right! :roll:

Too smooth and not enough roar! I'd didn't say they were slow!
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Jhonno wrote:
Nay wrote:I didn't mind the M3 Evo I drove a while back. Very rapid.

TBH, I found that engine and car pretty boring to drive. I'd have an E36 M3 as a daily, but they're nothing special.

Still prefer the little over-roar of my M20's!
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Its ok Jhonno, Nay is just a bit strange like that :)
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[qoute="DanThe"]Its ok Jhonno, Nay is just a bit strange like that :)[/quote]
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Granted, never played in an S50 (Or is it S52, I forget!) powered E30, but I find the E36, inc. the M3, a dull car. No sense of drama or occasion. Theres no presence to them either, its just an E36 M3. :D
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:26 pm

well if an e36 M3 can take an r32....who cares what it sounds like haha.
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Ahh yes, the dramatic 325i....?

The only drama I experienced with my 325i was when I started poking for rust.
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:35 pm

Very true.

The E36 m3 is a good car, but very boring for a bmw with 300hp.

The 325i only has fuel gauge drama though.
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k13 wrote:what about E36 3.2litre - 24v engine - 316bhp i think ????

has that conversion ever been made ???
S50B32 321 bhp... 350 N·m (258 lb·ft) @3250 rpm
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Morat wrote:
bilun777 wrote:325ix + supercharger :D
That gets my vote!
man that would eat transfer boxes like there is no tomorrow...
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