190mph? Possible?

[BadDave]

Just thoughtn you were advrtising for someone with "large testicular fortitude"

Someone call

Too late

I've got 1st refusal

[BadDave]

Not emptied them in a while then lads?

That's not it at all
They've always been BIG

[Taz]

i've hit 140 a few times on the speedo once i had it at 145 and kept it there for a few minutes............the car was very stable on standard bbs wheels

190 can be done with a serious power plant

[Steve-E30]

Not emptied them in a while then lads?

That's not it at all
They've always been BIG

Do you walk as if youve just got off a horse

[Rosc0PColtrane]

The only E30 remotely capable of 190mph is a 318is on 15" BBS wheels and stock suspension.

[reggid]

standing 1.5km E30 325is turbo did 283 km/h (176mph) compares with V10 M6 265km/h

http://www.e30clubsa.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=890

so of couse its possible with the correct gearing and power..........

[Sim9]

E30 M3 touring cars were regularly clocked on some circuits at more than 185mph.

Around 400bhp and the correct gearing with some minor bodywork tweeks will see 190mph.

A de restricted E39 M5 will do and indicated 195 "relatively" easily.

[fuzzy]

Well compare other Modified Road Car's that hit those speeds.

Reyland's Escort Cosworth. GPS verified 194mph
Norris Evo 9SWB Over 200mph
A multitude of R34 Skylines do over 200mph
There are Various FWD Hot Hatches doing high 160/170's
Didnt Dips White Alpina get somewhere near 170 as well?


How fast did the DTM cars go in a straight line. Albeit running a lot of downforce? And only with a max of 360BHP or so.

190 is not easy, definetly possible with a lot of money. More than most people will be happy to spend. And really there more to life than going 190 in a car from the 80s

a sierra cosworth has broken the 200mph barrier. rod tarry(madrod) i think is the owner with around 700bhp iirc and they arent the sleekest of cars either.

[fuzzy]

Well compare other Modified Road Car's that hit those speeds.

Reyland's Escort Cosworth. GPS verified 194mph
Norris Evo 9SWB Over 200mph
A multitude of R34 Skylines do over 200mph
There are Various FWD Hot Hatches doing high 160/170's
Didnt Dips White Alpina get somewhere near 170 as well?


How fast did the DTM cars go in a straight line. Albeit running a lot of downforce? And only with a max of 360BHP or so.

190 is not easy, definetly possible with a lot of money. More than most people will be happy to spend. And really there more to life than going 190 in a car from the 80s

a sierra cosworth has broken the 200mph barrier. rod tarry(madrod) i think is the owner with around 700bhp iirc and they arent the sleekest of cars either.

oops, i see after closer inspection of this thread that this cossie has already been mentioned by spadge along with some vidoe links.

[MrDazzle]

Sierra Cossies are well slippery compared to an E30...as somoene has pointed out, they were one of the first cars to be designed from an aerodynamics stand point.

Although they did have a habit of taking off during development testing, that's why they had those black plastic trim pieces added either side of the rear windscreen.

[ChrisBarns]

IIRC plastic additions to Sierras were for cross wind stability.

[MrDazzle]

They're there to create a clean seperation around the rear screen. The airflow would remain attached to the body of the car all the way up to the area around the rear screen, then would become detached and turbulent. Turbulent air is at a different pressure and creates lift. That's all well and good, they expect it to happen, but on the Sierra the point at which it sepeated was unstable, so the car would have an different aerodynamic balance at different times. The problem was particulalry bad during, as you say, crosswinds.

Putting the trim there made sure the air is always seperated in the same place, and the airflow was much more predictable.

[ChrisBarns]

ok. you win!

[Morat]

Infact, the amount of air flowing underneath the car at 190mph, on an e30, it wouldn't suprise me if enough lift was created to lift the thing of the ground!

Excellent, so we would be able to fly in our E30's. Now I'm really interested. This is the way of the future.

Let's do it.

Scruffy - you win the thread

[Jeepster]

The Lowtec converted ACS e30 M3's were apparently good for 180mph, I would think that if someone put their mind to it they would see 190mph, I wouldn't want to try it though.

[tomtomtom]

anythings possible . maybe not as much as 1000bhp needed but decent gearing and some weight loss would certainly help. i cant get over 140 with my gearing/weight/aerodynamics

whats stopping you, its got to be gearing right? with your power it should p1ss over 140. i need to get a gps thing on my iS and see what its really doing, on my old one (the one with the unknown engine mods) it p1ssed up to the limiter in 5th and showed over 140 (wish i'd gps'd it before i sold it though). my current (slow) one goes over 130 on the clock but i dont believe it for a second

[fuzzy]

anythings possible . maybe not as much as 1000bhp needed but decent gearing and some weight loss would certainly help. i cant get over 140 with my gearing/weight/aerodynamics

whats stopping you, its got to be gearing right? with your power it should p1ss over 140. i need to get a gps thing on my iS and see what its really doing, on my old one (the one with the unknown engine mods) it p1ssed up to the limiter in 5th and showed over 140 (wish i'd gps'd it before i sold it though). my current (slow) one goes over 130 on the clock but i dont believe it for a second

ive geared mine for acceleration rather than top end.more useable on an everyday basis.this same engine when fitted in my old light weight,stripped, wedge shaped celica and with 263bhp hit 162 (gps) using an lsd from a rwd supra.

[dlatch]

top speed record for a Mk2 Escort.
His top speed was 178.9mph.

thats a flat front escort too pushing 500+ bhp

so 190 is perfectly poss in a e30
now who is gonna go for it?

[no1_jazz]

Oh lord not this again well guys other people have done it in the past before on different cars from the 80's and early 90's so I am sure it is poss in an e30 surely a lot of money would have to be spent to achieve such speeds but if you got enough you will get there..

[ShepsEvo3]

E30's have the cd of a Breeze block

[gBenM]

give some germans stupid amounts of money and a wind tunnel and they'd be able to do it.

[projectmick]

Sod the Germans - there must be a scandinavian on here somewhere that will do it (or probably has - even in the snow!)

[tomtomtom]

top speed record for a Mk2 Escort.
His top speed was 178.9mph.

thats a flat front escort too pushing 500+ bhp

i got that mag! mad car!

oh to have a mk1 or mk2 escort with about 300 brake though

a customer of ours has built a mk1 cortina with a 300 brake duratech, independant suspension on the back and one of our 6 speed sequentials but looks bog standard!!!

[tomtomtom]

ive geared mine for acceleration rather than top end.more useable on an everyday basis.this same engine when fitted in my old light weight,stripped, wedge shaped celica and with 263bhp hit 162 (gps) using an lsd from a rwd supra.

what do you reckon yours will do when you've got 370 brake? if you changed the diff obviously. 160+?

[fuzzy]

ive geared mine for acceleration rather than top end.more useable on an everyday basis.this same engine when fitted in my old light weight,stripped, wedge shaped celica and with 263bhp hit 162 (gps) using an lsd from a rwd supra.

what do you reckon yours will do when you've got 370 brake? if you changed the diff obviously. 160+?

ive no idea but i wont be changing the diff unless it breaks. i want acceleration not top end.

[g57yle]

I can say i have achieved 190mph in an E30 (off public roads) and still pulling hard @629hp but backed off as i could feel too much lift

The car started feeling light at approx 150+.

These speeds were calculated by GPS also, no speedo crap...

My question is now earodynamic is an e30?

[Kos]

not very !

this is an old thread you've pulled up

[dazleeds]

190 in an e30

gimme that vw track where james may had the veyron and i'll drive

anywhere else forget it

190 mph inside a brick

[leeparkes]

I can say i have achieved 190mph in an E30 and still pulling hard @629hp but backed off as i could feel too much lift

The car started feeling light at approx 150+.

These speeds were calculated by GPS also, no speedo crap...

My question is now earodynamic is an e30?

And you have proof?


Edit, just noticed this thread is over 2 years old

[g57yle]

only a dynograph. LOL

pics are on this link

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=5 ... 55153ed557

[g57yle]

The only proof is, i can only say, i was no longer comfortable in the normal reclined position my seat is normally in and i had to sit properly upright with both hands on the wheel.

If there are any track days ill bring it down. not sure ill do much apart from drift and wheel spin though!. LOL

New engine will be build with approx 850hp

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 ... c2a8887737

[Kos]

you know moffat ? lol

i take it you know julian smith too ?

[g57yle]

you know moffat ? lol

i take it you know julian smith too ?

That i do.

[Kos]

small world, i have heard stories of your car.

you happen to know Mike Christoforou, he used to run BMC motorspares. he was in wood green to start with then up in tottenham till he closed down the business

[g57yle]

small world, i have heard stories of your car.

you happen to know Mike Christoforou, he used to run BMC motorspares. he was in wood green to start with then up in tottenham till he closed down the business

Yes i went there a few times to get some parts but he was a bit on the expensive side. I havent bought second hand E30 parts in years now. I built most of mine new from BMW's direct