ATTN ALL----THE CHIP CHALLANGE

[Kos]

Lets make it simple and firm.
17hp anywhere in the curve.
98 octane.
direct chip, no connection to the car allowed.
Ԛ£1000 5/1 yes or no?

No, this not we originally agreed, your add says 25hp, no mention of octane requierments, and i will allow you find 20hp in the rev range and 12hp peak increace

jay is bottling it now because he know he cant do it
prooven with me sitting happily at home in the warm, but i can smell the BULLSHIT

[tourerti]

Neither did bmw with the e36 m3.
Ԛ£1000.00 5/1 yes or no.
Stop wrigling, yes or no is simple, you know the agreement, you either feel this is a good or bad option for you.
Jay is willing to put his money where his mouth is, what the hell, 10/1
Thats right, You put up Ԛ£1000.00, Jay will put up Ԛ£10,000.
YES OR NO for the final time.

[Conan]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Kos]

Neither did bmw with the e36 m3.
Ԛ£1000.00 5/1 yes or no.
Stop wrigling, yes or no is simple, you know the agreement, you either feel this is a good or bad option for you.
Jay is willing to put his money where his mouth is, what the hell, 10/1
Thats right, You put up Ԛ£1000.00, Jay will put up Ԛ£10,000.
YES OR NO for the final time.

i'm not wrigling, you are trying to find a way out because this is BULLSHIT.
look at the links to the pm's and the times, you agreed, then to drop the power figure, the type of work to be done and go on about octane requierments.
WHY

[tourerti]

If money doesnt float your boat you can take a pick of his cars, he has assured me you can have either his 1999 355 or his 2002 X5 which is fully loaded but for this option you must put up Ԛ£5,000 again with the money going to charity if you lose.
Jay doesnt want anything out of this apart from recognition from this place that his goods are as described and of high quality which is acknowledged on every forum apart from this one.

[Conan]

pretty sure theres just me left watching two daft nuts rant at each other. anyone else need pop-corn

[Kos]

If money doesnt float your boat you can take a pick of his cars, he has assured me you can have either his 1999 355 or his 2002 X5 which is fully loaded but for this option you must put up Ԛ£5,000 again with the money going to charity if you lose.
Jay doesnt want anything out of this apart from recognition from this place that his goods are as described and of high quality which is acknowledged on every forum apart from this one.

original stakes mate, stop trying to outbid me from this by rasing the wager and "buy" yourself from this!!!
i wouldnt wana take the shirt off his back, and kick a dog when its down

[tourerti]

Jay agreed to 15hp, you said 20hp so Jay agreed 17hp.
Now he has changed nothing appart from offering you a better deal throughout.
Now people can say whatever they like but in there heart they will know you are wriggling out of a deal, you have easily the best offer but your changing goal posts.
17hp from just a chip with no fuel change, just a chip.
What is so hard to accept here.
I am going to bed soon so need a yes or a no now, the offer closes at 1.25am so you have had ages to think about it, just agree or dissagree, its not as if this chip hasnt been tested before.
BMW car did a review as did total bmw.

[Conan]

why dont you guys put your mums on the line. everyone knows its serious when mums are mentioned.

[stevetigger]

Jay agreed to 15hp, you said 20hp so Jay agreed 17hp.
Now he has changed nothing appart from offering you a better deal throughout.
Now people can say whatever they like but in there heart they will know you are wriggling out of a deal, you have easily the best offer but your changing goal posts.
17hp from just a chip with no fuel change, just a chip.
What is so hard to accept here.
I am going to bed soon so need a yes or a no now, the offer closes at 1.25am so you have had ages to think about it, just agree or dissagree, its not as if this chip hasnt been tested before.
BMW car did a review as did total bmw.

Offer ends at 1.25, looks like you lose!!

[Conan]

[Conan]

hey steve, why are we readind this and not in bed.............

[Kos]

you found away out, because you cannot proove your claims so you up the wager and treid to out bid me going, from Ԛ£100 to Ԛ£1000 and then putting cars and silly money into it. unfortunateley i cant play with money like he can. i have worked very hard to get what i have today and not by playing games.

you claim 25hp, so whay back it down to 15,
its up to you can you show me 20 hp yes or no original wager

[tourerti]

What a loser, loads of talk but no gonads.
Of course you will slate Jay after this but anyone who has read this will know the score.
Grow a set of balls and come back to me, I can organise this kind of thing whenever your ready but next time at least try and come to me with a challenge that you have a chance of winning.
10hp on an e30 m3 or 14hp on a 316i etc.
Then at least you would have a chance of winning but of course you wouldnt, because you cant get them gains from these engines and Jay knows this and wouldnt gamble unless he knew with absolute fact he could do it.

[Conan]

1:26 and nothing. worst movie i ever saw. going to bed v.dissopointed

[Theo]

Kos - this guy is chatting shit, save your breath - don't continue this conversation, he's bailed - making this Jay guy look like even more of a wrist.

[eko]

Jay agreed to 15hp, you said 20hp so Jay agreed 17hp.
Now he has changed nothing appart from offering you a better deal throughout.
Now people can say whatever they like but in there heart they will know you are wriggling out of a deal, you have easily the best offer but your changing goal posts.
17hp from just a chip with no fuel change, just a chip.
What is so hard to accept here.
I am going to bed soon so need a yes or a no now, the offer closes at 1.25am so you have had ages to think about it, just agree or dissagree, its not as if this chip hasnt been tested before.
BMW car did a review as did total bmw

As a peacemaker,ill tell you what ill do!

Why dont i donate my 318is for free of course for Jay to prove to everyone that it works!

No cost to me,or him if it frys my engine

[Kos]

listen up zoners, through out i have said what the wager was, what was to be dine waht had to be prooved, however jay/toureti keep trying to chage it, it all here livks to pm's, addverts etc but to avoid his shame he has tried to up the stakes to "buy" his way out of the hole he is in, and drop the power figure because he cant do it,
a few of us knew he was a arrogant bullshittig con astist, now i think we have the proof of that as he has not go the bottle to go through with it

kos

[Kos]

Jay agreed to 15hp, you said 20hp so Jay agreed 17hp.
Now he has changed nothing appart from offering you a better deal throughout.
Now people can say whatever they like but in there heart they will know you are wriggling out of a deal, you have easily the best offer but your changing goal posts.
17hp from just a chip with no fuel change, just a chip.
What is so hard to accept here.
I am going to bed soon so need a yes or a no now, the offer closes at 1.25am so you have had ages to think about it, just agree or dissagree, its not as if this chip hasnt been tested before.
BMW car did a review as did total bmw

As a peacemaker,ill tell you what ill do!

Why dont i donate my 318is for free of course for Jay to prove to everyone that it works!

No cost to me,or him if it frys my engine

independant requiered, thanks but no thanks. you' may have used him before so there is no way of knowing if he will manipulate things to his advantage mess arounnd with octane booster or "prep" the car before

[Kos]

Kos - this guy is chatting shit, save your breath - don't continue this conversation, he's bailed - making this Jay guy look like even more of a wrist.

i know, but i'll stand by my guns!!

Thanks,
kos

[Kos]

listen up zoners, through out i have said what the wager was, what was to be done what had to be prooved, however jay/toureti keep trying to chage it, it all here links to pm's, addverts etc but to avoid his shame he has tried to up the stakes to "buy" his way out of the hole he is in, and drop the power figure because he cant do it,
a few of us knew he was a arrogant bullshittig con astist, now i think we have the proof of that, as he has not go the bottle to go through with it

kos
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[Theo]

Why bother upping the stakes when Kos has already outlined the situation?? As a prospective buyer of a chip for my car I would say 100% that I would never consider this company, as you can tell from matey boy here that something isn't right. Never mind, All publicity is good publicity as they say.

[Kos]

Why bother upping the stakes when Kos has already outlined the situation?? As a prospective buyer of a chip for my car I would say 100% that I would never consider this company, as you can tell from matey boy here that something isn't right. Neve mind, All publicity is good publicity as they say.

wise decision my friend, my point has been made.
the only good chips are on southend seafront

[Theo]

only good chips are on southend seafront

Hastings has some killer chippies too, i'll have you know.

[eko]

my guinea(sp)pig offer still stands

[Moofles]

this shouldn't really involve any money apart from costs, trying to flash your money about isn't the way to do it. just do the damn test and be done with it!

[tourerti]

Judging by the pm`s recieved there is only one person who looks daft here.
If you are worried that Jay has bought himself out of this then answer this.
a. would it matter if the bet was Ԛ£100,000,000 if you are so confident he is a crook and his chips dont work it doesnt matter as you cant lose so what is up.
b. it is still possible to go to the original deal, 15hp anywhere in the rev range and if this isnt accomplished jay will pay Ԛ£1000.00 to a charity of your choice and if he does then you just pay the days costs.

Now for the comment you made about someone offering a guinnee pig car and you suggest it would be fiddled, this is outragious and another attempt to ruin his good name, you wouldnt beleive the results no matter what rolling road it was done on would you.
This is the reason I pointed you to the magazines and forums.
Are you really suggesting Jay has bribed all of the leading UK`s car magazines and forums ?
If this is the case your in need of medical attention to sort out that complex.
It is only this forum where people think of him badly, at every other forum he is known for his work and if the truth is really known people here know the truth also, no one has yet answered this simple question posted 4 pages ago.

At every rolling road event organised by this very forum, who`s chips have given the highest power on a like for like basis.

[scrapboy]

kos

come on! you must be up for this now. jay has rased the stakes! wouldnt you like to be seen in an mr2.

tourti

who do you know on this forum? who have you met? does anyone claim to know you?? PEOPLE COME FORWARD.

although a little bird did tell me that you and jay have been caught with your trousers down many a time.

bluff, bluff, bluff, bluff, bluff.

jayson. was band from the origonal zone, this zone, the bmwcarforum, bmwcarclubforum. although he comes back with aliases(sp?).

as far as i know he started out on all the forums with a username of e30gumball. his most used user name now is chipped uk. you will also find his ebay feedback interesting, and quite a bit of it is fake.

although im not saying all is bad about jay. hes had a few cars in mags with chips etc. but not asmuch as he lets onto. to be honest hes more famous for pissing people around.

does anyone know the number for trading standards.

[tourerti]

says the man who comes on with an alias hiding his other username.
In truth i care not who comes forward to admit they know me, I dont mind if i also get banned because no matter what is done this wouldnt hurt trade for chippeduk because in reality e30 owners tend not to spend much, this is not a jibe at the owners but as a rule of thumb the average e30 owner will buy a car, run it for as long as possible spending the least amount as possible.
Again, this is not a jibe, there are maybe a handfull of people onthis forum who have trully spent on there e30 to the point of really testing what works and what doesnt.
A chip swap or filter and exhaust change equates to nothing in real terms when you look at the big picture.
The only point being made from me is no matter how much you slate chippeduk it doesnt change the fact that it is only this forum where you guys think his goods are bad.
He may have had fallings out in the past with other forums granted but it was only ever postage issues and never once from ripping someone off or bad goods.

[Demlotcrew]

Jay please dont make me go and find all the posts on at least four other BIG forums where you have been banned!

Look its clear that your trying to buy your way out of this! This was your chance to prove yourself and you blew it, cant you see that people now will see you for who you really are?

Do the original deal or leave the forum!

Andrew

[Fushion_Julz]

This is getting tedious....

I thought the original challange/plan was a goodun...Irrespective of the gain being 15hp or 20hp...

As a prospective chip buyer I am/was interested in the result.

I spoke to Jay about a chip for my M3 at Gaydon and was advised not to bother as the gain would be insignificant.
However, I'm still interested in one for my 325 and the interest, from my perspective, is whether or not the gains are substantial and quantifiable...

How about you both stop posturing and get on with it?

[Conan]

never seen such fannying about in my life.................

[Theo]

I second the above comment - why not stop being a pussy and do the challenge as originally stated. hmmm, i seem to remember in my first post on this topic that someone is going to look stupid...

[kam-325i]

Ok heres my understanding. The Ebay ad claims gains of 25 Bhp with just a chip swap............
So why cant jay do 20bhp with just a chip swap ?

[tourerti]

We can agree too 20hp gain if you allow the usage of 102 octane fuel as bmw did in there claims.
Or we can stick the original plan of 15hp from an off the shelf chip.
Demlotcrew is an arse who has constantly knocked Jay so its like asking a jew what they think of hitler, you wont get an unbiased view.