E30s vs French cars

[Rosc0PColtrane]

guys a 205 with a Mi16 lump is a naughty car!

Not a 1.6 though is it!!!

[Onz]

Yeah, I'm a sh*t driver. I'm not smooth enough. Really showed up driving gokarts. To late on the anchors, every corner sideways and lost too much speed.

Though I took to rally driving a lot easier!!

I'm going to have a crack at the ROSPA advanced driving, I know the dude who runs it in Yeovil.

I'd love some proper track experience and instruction.

If you want to organise a group outing I would be up for this as well mate, we might be able to get some decent discounts

WRT 205 GTI vs E30 the pug 205 GTI was just in response to the mk1 GTI, another fine german chariot

But the 1.9 205 GTI is a great trackable car and for little money can go rallying but is still no competition like for like on a track with experienced drivers at the wheel of each. The only french car I would even consider is a 205 GTI.

[maxfield]

I had to work on a French car today

[ric325i]

guys a 205 with a Mi16 lump is a naughty car!

Not a 1.6 though is it!!!

are you saying a 325i is being beaten by a 1.6 gti?

i loved my 1.6 gti but its not a 325i beater.....no way!

[Rosc0PColtrane]

guys a 205 with a Mi16 lump is a naughty car!

Not a 1.6 though is it!!!

are you saying a 325i is being beaten by a 1.6 gti?

i loved my 1.6 gti but its not a 325i beater.....no way!

No mate. The op was complaining about being pwned by 1.6's. Your Mi-16 is a veritable weapon in a sardine tin!! Two entirely different entities!

[alex-e30]

french cars are fwd.............pointless cars.............enough said

[bss325i]

The french are worse than the Italians at electrics, and you should be comparing your E30 against similar aged french cars. Perhaps the exception would be the 205GTI. My customers know not to bring me anything french, I refuse to work on them, in particular Renault.

Renault electrics are the bain of my life! Renault gearboxes are made of chocolate, the variable cam timing units called a "de-phaser" fail like there is no tomorrow etc. The list of crap goes on and on, their warranty claims are endless and the funniest thing which makes me laugh the most is, Renault aim to get the new Laguna in the top three of its market sector in terms of sales, quality and reliability! The direct competition is the 3 series, Audi A4, VW Passat, Ford Mondeo etc. Its just laughable realy!

[Jon_Bmw]

Whilst we are slating cars, i'll through another car in the ring:

The fiat punto 1.2 8v.(new stuff)

Yes I know its not french but fuck me, one of those useless bunch of french cunts could have easily made it!

So bad its unreal.

[B7]

Mods for christ sake lock this pointless thread.

E30s vs French cars????? There is no comparison? The french could not engineer a f*ckin pram let alone a car.
Best cuisine in the world? B0ll0cks! Give me italian anyday.
France as a country? what the f*ck is all that about? A weekend in Skegness is more picturesque.
Eiffel Tower? Got one in Blackpool thanks.
Mont st micheal? I'll go to Cornwall and see St Micheals mount cheers very much.
Were they not the first to cave in to the Euro? I may be wrong on that but if I'm not? Says it all really.
First Concorde to crash (and signalling it's demise)? Air France!
Jean Michel Jarre? Give me a Bontempi organ and two hours and I'll write something for you.

The only thing France is useful for is cheap booze and theres a downside to that! You have to go to France for it.

E30s vs French cars? Yeah right!!!

Don't EVER get me on the french thing!!!!! Just ask Jesus.

[bss325i]

Mods for christ sake lock this pointless thread.

E30s vs French cars????? There is no comparison? The french could not engineer a f*ckin pram let alone a car.
Best cuisine in the world? B0ll0cks! Give me italian anyday.
France as a country? what the f*ck is all that about? A weekend in Skegness is more picturesque.
Eiffel Tower? Got one in Blackpool thanks.
Mont st micheal? I'll go to Cornwall and see St Micheals mount cheers very much.
Were they not the first to cave in to the Euro? I may be wrong on that but if I'm not? Says it all really.
First Concorde to crash (and signalling it's demise)? Air France!
Jean Michel Jarre? Give me a Bontempi organ and two hours and I'll write something for you.

The only thing France is useful for is cheap booze and theres a downside to that! You have to go to France for it.

E30s vs French cars? Yeah right!!!

Don't EVER get me on the french thing!!!!! Just ask Jesus.

I recon your a secret lover of french turds Trevor! He who shouts the loudest and al that lol!!

I mean you have gone a bit strange with that MXshite jap crap!

[Greeny]

I had a 1600 205 GTi and loved it to bits. I used it for a couple of track days and it was good fun, it handled well and was pretty quick BUT! I much prefered my E30 320 on the track, it was just more rewarding when you got it right. RWD is always the way forward.

[B7]

Mods for christ sake lock this pointless thread.

E30s vs French cars????? There is no comparison? The french could not engineer a f*ckin pram let alone a car.
Best cuisine in the world? B0ll0cks! Give me italian anyday.
France as a country? what the f*ck is all that about? A weekend in Skegness is more picturesque.
Eiffel Tower? Got one in Blackpool thanks.
Mont st micheal? I'll go to Cornwall and see St Micheals mount cheers very much.
Were they not the first to cave in to the Euro? I may be wrong on that but if I'm not? Says it all really.
First Concorde to crash (and signalling it's demise)? Air France!
Jean Michel Jarre? Give me a Bontempi organ and two hours and I'll write something for you.

The only thing France is useful for is cheap booze and theres a downside to that! You have to go to France for it.

E30s vs French cars? Yeah right!!!

Don't EVER get me on the french thing!!!!! Just ask Jesus.

I recon your a secret lover of french turds Trevor! He who shouts the loudest and al that lol!!

I mean you have gone a bit strange with that MXshite jap crap!

I can just see the two of us Barry, Wind in our (your) hair, country lanes, Si and Oz behind in the Z3, quiet car park, doggin for 4....

OMG It's happened. I'M ALREADY GAY and I've not picked it up yet!

[bss325i]

Mods for christ sake lock this pointless thread.

E30s vs French cars????? There is no comparison? The french could not engineer a f*ckin pram let alone a car.
Best cuisine in the world? B0ll0cks! Give me italian anyday.
France as a country? what the f*ck is all that about? A weekend in Skegness is more picturesque.
Eiffel Tower? Got one in Blackpool thanks.
Mont st micheal? I'll go to Cornwall and see St Micheals mount cheers very much.
Were they not the first to cave in to the Euro? I may be wrong on that but if I'm not? Says it all really.
First Concorde to crash (and signalling it's demise)? Air France!
Jean Michel Jarre? Give me a Bontempi organ and two hours and I'll write something for you.

The only thing France is useful for is cheap booze and theres a downside to that! You have to go to France for it.

E30s vs French cars? Yeah right!!!

Don't EVER get me on the french thing!!!!! Just ask Jesus.

I recon your a secret lover of french turds Trevor! He who shouts the loudest and al that lol!!

I mean you have gone a bit strange with that MXshite jap crap!

I can just see the two of us Barry, Wind in our (your) hair, country lanes, Si and Oz behind in the Z3, quiet car park, doggin for 4....

OMG It's happened. I'M ALREADY GAY and I've not picked it up yet!

Dont include mein your sick perverse fantasys!

[Blitz]

309 GTi is just as good as the 205.

[B7]

I've bought red leather pants to match. Don't tell the wife though.

[pacerpete]

I've bought red leather pants to match. Do tell the wife though.

Red leather pants or victim of a 'redsocking' ?

[tomtomtom]

205's may be front wheel drive but they can be driven like a rear wheel drive, i love them! twitch the steering on the brakes, straighten the wheel and go round on the throttle, one of the best fun cars you can drive-FACT! haha, i'd swap my iS's for a 309gti with an mi16 engine any day

[Rosc0PColtrane]

You couldn't lap a roundabout sideways in a 205, continually. Lift off over steer is miles away from power sliding.

[tomtomtom]

You couldn't lap a roundabout sideways in a 205, continually.

or an iS!

[capri_rob]

Whilst we are slating cars, i'll through another car in the ring:

The fiat punto 1.2 8v.(new stuff)

Yes I know its not french but **** me, one of those useless bunch of french ***** could have easily made it!

So bad its unreal.

I seem to remember Fiat ran an advertising campaign in the mid '80s boasting about how an Uno turbo was quicker 0-60 than a 911 ( or might have been a 944...can't remember ) - anyway - didnt really do porsche much damage did it ?

A few years ago if all you wanted was to go fast you would buy a Renault 5 GT Turbo - quicker than most cars on the road over short distances but made out of coke cans and often seen at the side of the road in a cloud of steam.....French cars are OK if you like spending a lot of time at the parts counter.

[lance1a]

Yeah, I went into a Fiat dealer and asked for a new wiper for the Uno, he though it was a fair swap.

[Cotty]

E30 or a french car.............err im still driving an E30

I have still not changed my car because I can't find anything to replace it with. Newer BMW's? sorry too big and too heavy. 1 Series larger than the E30

KW shocks & springs with a 60/40mm drop
H&R adjustable Anti Roll Bars
E30Zone chip
Twin tube strut brace
Hartge wheels (lighter than Xspokes)

Works for me

[capri_rob]

Owned 18 cars since I passed my test - VW, BMW, Audi, Ford, Vauxhall. Nothing French.

My missus owns an 02 plate Laguna......lovely comfortable car but she had to spend £1500 on a replacement gearbox last year....I rest my case.....

[George_Of_The_Jungle]

it takes more skill to drive a e30. thats my excuse. and like gibson stated, the more fuel the you car uses the more of a man you are!

[George_Of_The_Jungle]

but i have got a 205. was going to race it, but ran out of money, and the e30 series' look way more fun

So 205 getting an MOT then on to the next home

[Rosc0PColtrane]

You couldn't lap a roundabout sideways in a 205, continually.

or an iS!

[Eddie25]

Spending time at an independent garage and working on all makes of car. I can confirm what has already been said. Avoid French like the plague!

Yes they are cheap and yes you get lots of equipment, but theres good reason for that. Non of its actually any good!

I hate them with a firey passion.

[George_Of_The_Jungle]

they always make it soo difficult to work on them. get a German car and its all accessible (well on the old schools)

[B7]

they always make it soo difficult to work on them. get a German car and its all accessible (well on the old schools)

Francophiles like to call it Quirky I believe

[Jon_Bmw]

I have still not changed my car because I can't find anything to replace it with. Newer BMW's? sorry too big and too heavy. 1 Series larger than the E30

Here are some comparisons:









They both look about the same size, but the e30 feels narrower to drive and possibly is slightly narrower.

[e30topless]

over the years i have had about 10-15 renaults/peugeots and each and every one (except a renault 25 v6) has died a horrible death under my ownership just from everyday driving French cars are shlt !end of story I have to admit it was fun killing the renault 11 turbo i had that thing was fast !!

e30 v french cars? ....no contest