Whats with 325 sports?

[Simon13]

a sport a great fun car out of the box that looks way better than a 4 door or even a 2door SE in alot of peoples eyes, they are famous chariot from the 80's and a bit of a cult car

not everyone is into paying £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£ for bodkykits and LSD's when you can buy a car with it all fitted on it from new

[Bob_S]

be a 3.25 same as the M3 i believe mate
sports had a few fancy bits over a stock 325i and UK only - the poor mans C2/H27/M3

[rob320is]

YOur right DANNYBOY , just been on the bmw registry its 3.46:1 rear diff on 2 and 4 door models

Also back to an earlier debate all 2 doors were fitted with full sport pack as standard , whereas on 4 doors it was an option only, therefore you mates must have been a 4 door ...

[Blitz]

Tech 1 is rarer and looks more street.

[Simon]

Nope touring didnt come with m tech suspension but they di do an m tech version quite rare tho
The only difference between the touring and the same engined car is the touring have stiffer and slight high rear springs but all the touring rear springs are the same regardless of engine

Rear springs are not higher, just stiffer for extra weight.

Tourings were all fitted with M-tech suspension.

[snoops]

I suppose a lot of people like to buy the car with everything already on there like Simon13 says rather than buy one thats had it all done by a previous owner rather than the BMW factory

[csl]

With sports, it's all about the kudos,the fact that it is the genuine article and not something trying to be something it isn't !

I also agree with simon 13.........it was most definitetly a cult car in the 80's and early 90's, a sort of high end model that could be aspired to. I remember ,(when i was a spotty yoof)when visiting "posh" areas, there was always a high level of desireable cars to be seen and the sports were there gaining such comments as "nice motor" etc from my mates........a regular 325i just did not warrent a glance at that time.

It's a car that i consider to be very good looking, but it's how rare the car was when new (and even rarer now)that is a big factor for me owning one

[Gortour]

Nope touring didnt come with m tech suspension but they di do an m tech version quite rare tho
The only difference between the touring and the same engined car is the touring have stiffer and slight high rear springs but all the touring rear springs are the same regardless of engine

Rear springs are not higher, just stiffer for extra weight.

Tourings were all fitted with M-tech suspension.

Cheers Simon, so I have got M-tech then...

[beardymat]

its the looks that do it for me, they just stand out with the kit.

plus theres the rarity factor, went to tatton park today and there was only one other sport there.

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Sports seem set to become even less common, with top dollar being paid for them by the Irish, shipped home and then it seems, raped within an inch of their lives.

[Simon13]

rememeber this, buy a pukka sport for say £4000, look after it and you won't lose money

a 4 325i will never be worth alot, a clean 2 door will never be worth as much either

A 325i with all the bits added on will never be worth as much............

i always believed that tourings didn't all have m-tech suspension but thats another story

[dannyboy759]

Nope touring didnt come with m tech suspension but they di do an m tech version quite rare tho
The only difference between the touring and the same engined car is the touring have stiffer and slight high rear springs but all the touring rear springs are the same regardless of engine

Rear springs are not higher, just stiffer for extra weight.

Tourings were all fitted with M-tech suspension.

Yeap there deffo longer!

[dannyboy759]

And when you say they are fitted with m tech suspension what do you mean?
Boge/Bilstein gas dampers with M tech springs? because thats not whats on mine lol and its not what the etk says either nor the original sale book, but i could be wrong

[Simon]

The shock absorbers on a touring are upgraded to the same spec as the sport suspension, the front's are in fact identical, the rears obviously different due to the weight.

[Jhonno]

yeah as they sink more with the extra weight.. they dont sit higher

Sport (Genuine) is worth the extra over a 325i.. It just feels a bit more 'special' Its the same in the Mustang world the '67 390GT is worth a premium over the regular models from the same year

[dannyboy759]

ok they have boge gas dampers but they can come on any e30 but the front springs are not the same part as the sport but just because its got Boge front dampers does mean its got an m tech set up

[dannyboy759]

The shock absorbers on a touring are upgraded to the same spec as the sport suspension, the front's are in fact identical, the rears obviously different due to the weight.

ok ill go with that lol as the etk says Boge dampers for the touring but that doesnt make it an m tech set up. but i can see where your coming from

[Simon]

The shock absorbers on a touring are upgraded to the same spec as the sport suspension, the front's are in fact identical, the rears obviously different due to the weight.

ok ill go with that lol as the etk says Boge dampers for the touring but that doesnt make it an m tech set up. but i can see where your coming from

I said nothing about boge, the front shock absorbers on the front of a touring, are identical (as in same part number) as that fitted to a car fitted with M-tech suspension.

Obviously the rear isn't going to be the same as there is the difference in the weight.

And yes, the premium for a 325i sport is well worth it, as Simon13 says, as long as they are properly maintained, then you won't loose any money on one.

[e30bmlover]

put a small case diff on a 325 and it will own a sport. Then break.

Sports are way over rated and hugely over priced for what they are. The only reason the price for them is so high is there are people out there stupid enough to pay 4k for a 325 with a kit.

you hit the nail on the head.

[Jhonno]

put a small case diff on a 325 and it will own a sport. Then break.

Sports are way over rated and hugely over priced for what they are. The only reason the price for them is so high is there are people out there stupid enough to pay 4k for a 325 with a kit.

you hit the nail on the head.

Not really.. There are more people who cant 'afford' the premium over an SE..

[e30bmlover]

put a small case diff on a 325 and it will own a sport. Then break.

Sports are way over rated and hugely over priced for what they are. The only reason the price for them is so high is there are people out there stupid enough to pay 4k for a 325 with a kit.

you hit the nail on the head.

Not really.. There are more people who cant 'afford' the premium over an SE..

premium? a £400 body kit, a £250 lsd and a £150 for a box, imo if you really want a sport buy a tidy se and put all the bits on, then you wont have any hidden surprises behind the rust incubator door pods, then get the ''sport'' bit added to your log book if you must. at the end of the day its a 325, a bog standard 325 with a few thrilly bits.

[Simon]

OK, judging by going rates, on here, e-bay and other places...

Average condition 316i saloon £100

Good condition 316i saloon £500

Average condition 318is £700

Good condition 318is £1400+

Average condition 325i saloon £1000

Good condition 325i saloon £2000+

Average condition 325i touring £1200

Good condition 325i touring £1800+

Average condition 325i convertible £2000

Good condition 325i convertible £3000+

Average condition 325i sport £2000

Good condition 325i sport £3500+

There's an obvious pattern to the prices, and obviously the really really good ones (not just the 325i sport) are going to make that little extra premium.

There's been a few 325i tourings with all the toys and in extra nice condition lately for £3000-£3500.

So why should the really nice 325i sports not be selling for 4k+?

All the above prices were a quick write up btw!

[oguz327]

If i was going to buy another sport it would have to be a tech1, I love the styling, the rarity, you get all the toys and there are great value.
Finding a good one is another story.

I payed £1650 for my tech 1 back in 2003 and got 4 years of reasonably cheep motoring out of it, after stacking it at the ring this year still managed to poach all the goodies and put onto my SE.

My SE is basically a sport in a lot of its parts and although it a much better car, (very little rust) in my eyes will never be as cool as the tech1 was rust included

[munky30]

3 grand for a 325 touring?!

F*ck me... I'm going to clean mine up, spray it shiny and sell it on to one of the mugs that pays that money for an old, outdated car.

[Jhonno]

a 1967 Mustang GT390 is a just a 390 with a few frilly bits..

what is basically being said is that there is no point in the sport and everyone should have just spec'd up an se from the factory

its not just about the kit, its more than that.. a spec'd up se is NOT the same thing

I'd have a tech 1 sport over a tech 2..

[Jhonno]

3 grand for a 325 touring?!

F*ck me... I'm going to clean mine up, spray it shiny and sell it on to one of the mugs that pays that money for an old, outdated car.

your's isnt a proper 325i tho Munky..

[munky30]

nothing a quick call to the dvla cant fix... afterall, half the 'sports' out there got their name the same way

[csl]

3 grand for a 325 touring?!

F*ck me... I'm going to clean mine up, spray it shiny and sell it on to one of the mugs that pays that money for an old, outdated car.

Mr munky,an e-type Jag is an old outdated car ........but i would still pay a good price for one

[oguz327]

Its not just a box, lsd and kit either.

What about

Map light mirror
Sport interior
Suspension
Black headlining
De chromed bits


All make for a nicer E30 in my view and a few of those extras are a b#stard to fit!

Sports are worth the extra in my view and will hold there money.

[Bob_S]

a sport is worth 4k or whatever because people are willing to pay it.. thats the way it works there is no pre-determined price that says this is what they are worth etc

[dannyboy759]

Its not just a box, lsd and kit either.

What about

Map light mirror
Sport interior
Suspension
Black headlining
De chromed bits


All make for a nicer E30 in my view and a few of those extras are a b#stard to fit!

Sports are worth the extra in my view and will hold there money.

My car has all that on it and it was made that way and its a four door!!!!
It has all the sport bit apart from the pointless plastic bits

[oguz327]

Its not just a box, lsd and kit either.

What about

Map light mirror
Sport interior
Suspension
Black headlining
De chromed bits


All make for a nicer E30 in my view and a few of those extras are a b#stard to fit!

Sports are worth the extra in my view and will hold there money.

My car has all that on it and it was made that way and its a four door!!!!
It has all the sport bit apart from the pointless plastic bits

Theres always one

[Jhonno]

Its not just a box, lsd and kit either.

What about

Map light mirror
Sport interior
Suspension
Black headlining
De chromed bits


All make for a nicer E30 in my view and a few of those extras are a b#stard to fit!

Sports are worth the extra in my view and will hold there money.

My car has all that on it and it was made that way and its a four door!!!!
It has all the sport bit apart from the pointless plastic bits

thats because the person who spec'd it wanted a sport but needed/wanted 4 doors..

[bmwe30mtech]

imo if you really want a sport buy a tidy se and put all the bits on, then you wont have any hidden surprises behind the rust incubator door pods, then get the ''sport'' bit added to your log book if you must. at the end of the day its a 325, a bog standard 325 with a few thrilly bits.

Not true. Buying a tidy car and putting on the sport bits takes ages, lots of money, and is pointless. I did it all, including headlining etc, had a laugh doing it and learnt a lot, but its pointless. Most people are not like zoners, they dont just 'swap a diff', 'throw in a sport gearbox' etc. People don't want to drive arround in cars that are 316i's and listed as 325i sports, and that have been constructed in the road of the local council estate. Its all just dodgy.

If you buy a 325i, you then need to drill about 30 or so holes in the body work to fit the kit properly. Screw that, it will all rust a few years down the line. You will end up spending 4k on a car that isnt a sport, holds little re-sale value, and has a dodgy history. The whole lot has to be declard to the insurance etc, its just a b*tch to do, and so unnecessary.

At the end of the day if people don't want to pay the 'premium' of a sport, then don't!!

[Bob_S]

Its not just a box, lsd and kit either.

What about

Map light mirror
Sport interior
Suspension
Black headlining
De chromed bits


All make for a nicer E30 in my view and a few of those extras are a b#stard to fit!

Sports are worth the extra in my view and will hold there money.

My car has all that on it and it was made that way and its a four door!!!!
It has all the sport bit apart from the pointless plastic bits

well whoop-di-doo aren't you special!