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Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:19 pm

i'll take options 2 please lol


this will be all done in a garage and time will be taken, it will be in no hurry at all.

The colour will be white, not sure which one just yet but will be a BMW colour.

thanks for the advice tho!
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Royalratch wrote:But there's no doubt that of all the car repair industry areas, bodyshops are the rip-off plumbers of the land.

And that's SCIENTIFIC FACT!

They take a sneering look at a dink in a wing and then say: '£1000 at least mate. Gotta find a new wing, then get some bolts, then kind of bolt it on, then you gotta paint it and THEN you have to leave it to dry, yeh, I'd say nearer 3 grand now I think about it mate...'
Well that says it all... Im quiting my job (As a sprayer) because I no sorry we (Put brush full of Tar back in the tin) have been found out! I would over charge you If you came and asked me to do 'You' a favour.

We get all the know it alls up at our place, as in most Trades "Oh whilst you got paint in the gun could you just do this, and this, oh and that!"

People that know absolutely everything about everything, get ripped off. Now thats a Scientific fact :roll:
hahahaha....you're so right!!!!
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:21 pm

whiteM3 wrote:i'll take options 2 please lol


this will be all done in a garage and time will be taken, it will be in no hurry at all.

The colour will be white, not sure which one just yet but will be a BMW colour.

thanks for the advice tho!
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:24 pm

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slippo wrote:i was trying to say there is a lot more work involved than it looks, and also it takes alot longer than people or customers think! so im sure if they tried it there self they would f*uck it right it and see how much work is involved, and respect the charges and time and effort. :D
So true...
Ill second sorry third that!

"If you can p!ss you can paint!" :roll:

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its the same as most things. people that are generally good with their hands can turn their hand to anything within reason if care and time is taken. im a joiner but have resprayed parts and panels myself using basic equipment and have ended up with at least equal ,more often better than the original paint with no orange peel effect.its all down to the time taken and prep work done.every body always makes out their job is much harder than it is to justify the price :D
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:36 pm

to be fair, price should be determined by the amount of labour involved (as that's the most expensive aspect of resprays).

However what I hate is garage's that charge to do a job, and then cut corners, or don't do the job properly!!!
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:40 pm

whiteM3 wrote:i'll take options 2 please lol


this will be all done in a garage and time will be taken, it will be in no hurry at all.

The colour will be white, not sure which one just yet but will be a BMW colour.

thanks for the advice tho!
What I would do if I were you... Is leave the job to the bodyshop!

White is a very forgiving colour, so will not need 'so' much prep work to turn out a good job.

A painter will usually want to see the problem areas first so he / she! knows where to apply more attension...

Being white though you could flat out any scratches or slight imperfections (Using a rubbing down block / 5"- 2"-3/4" bit of wood) with p320/240 then p500 finishing with wet-or-dry (wet) 1500 cover in two 'light' coats of aerosol primer and ask the bodyshop to 'Wet on wet' it?

*Wet on wet - Is a primer that can be painted straight on top of.

Job done!

If your not to fussy about it being a BM colour then get them to order 'Comercial paint'... Like 'Ford Diamond' white for example, Or a Vw colour

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fuzzy wrote:its the same as most things. people that are generally good with their hands can turn their hand to anything within reason if care and time is taken. im a joiner but have resprayed parts and panels myself using basic equipment and have ended up with at least equal ,more often better than the original paint with no orange peel effect.its all down to the time taken and prep work done.every body always makes out their job is much harder than it is to justify the price :D
I can saw wood? Hammer in nails and um... Saw wood!! winkeye

To true if you are good with your hands then after a bit of practice you can do the job... The skill as Im sure your aware is when things start to go wrong! Then skill / experiance comes in to play :D

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fuzzy wrote:its the same as most things. people that are generally good with their hands can turn their hand to anything within reason if care and time is taken. im a joiner but have resprayed parts and panels myself using basic equipment and have ended up with at least equal ,more often better than the original paint with no orange peel effect.its all down to the time taken and prep work done.every body always makes out their job is much harder than it is to justify the price :D
I can saw wood? Hammer in nails and um... Saw wood!! winkeye

To true if you are good with your hands then after a bit of practice you can do the job... The skill as Im sure your aware is when things start to go wrong! Then skill / experiance comes in to play :D

Andy
agreed. its the same with joinery....any muppet can hammer nails and cut wood but its the attention to detail that show when its been done by a professional winkeye
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if i bodge it up i'll just use some tip-ex...
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whiteM3 wrote:if i bodge it up i'll just use some tip-ex...
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aceraf wrote:to be fair, price should be determined by the amount of labour involved (as that's the most expensive aspect of resprays).

However what I hate is garage's that charge to do a job, and then cut corners, or don't do the job properly!!!
There are plenty of garages who claim to be the bollox who clearly have no idea of what they are doing. My past experiences are a clear example of this.

The Alpina C2 in my garage is an example of a painter who reckoned he was brilliant only to give me the car back looking worse than I gave it to him. Apparently he used to paint Lambo's and Ferrari's!.....there are some very sad looking cars out there then!

The worst thing is that you give your car to these rip off merchants with clear instructions and when things don't turn out as they should they deny any of those instructions were given.

Next time I get a car painted it will entail a written contract as to what should be expected.
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aceraf wrote:to be fair, price should be determined by the amount of labour involved (as that's the most expensive aspect of resprays).

However what I hate is garage's that charge to do a job, and then cut corners, or don't do the job properly!!!
There are plenty of garages who claim to be the bollox who clearly have no idea of what they are doing. My past experiences are a clear example of this.

The Alpina C2 in my garage is an example of a painter who reckoned he was brilliant only to give me the car back looking worse than I gave it to him. Apparently he used to paint Lambo's and Ferrari's!.....there are some very sad looking cars out there then!

The worst thing is that you give your car to these rip off merchants with clear instructions and when things don't turn out as they should they deny any of those instructions were given.

Next time I get a car painted it will entail a written contract as to what should be expected.
When the car's being surveyed (as any good bodyshop should do), get them to give you a copy of all the damage, they've found....this should also contain the price that they've quoted you. Seen as there's alot of dodgy bodyshop who've worked on ferrari's...some of you may never have seen one of these....

basically it's got a drawing of a car and the surveyor/estimator should clearly mark down where any damage is, and all the tasks that need to be carried out....i.e. if you're changing the bumper, it should be on there, so they don't spray the wrong bumper!!!
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