IM FCUKING FUMING AT THE FCUKING MOT WA@K@RS [b]UPDATED[/b]

[astondg]

I have a little bit of idea how you must feel. When I first got my 323i I left it at a suspension place to get the springs and stuff fitted (this was before it was even registered) and later on the suspension guy rings me to say that while my car was in the car park a delivery truck reversed into it. I had to get the whole bonnet repainted, luckily the delivery place paid, but the bonnet is still a slightly different colour to the front guards in some light.

Also just recently my father took my car to get some new tyres and while it was there one of the staff bumped a metal beam and it fell across the boot and rear right bodywork. The tyre place paid for it, but I don't think it was the best repair work.

I can only imagine what it must be like with a car painted like yours though!

Aston

[CiLK_WuRM]

Booty, that sucks mate! Hope it all gets sorted to your satisfaction.

[bootyman]

I got a call from the garage yesterday asking if i'd manage to get them a sample of the paint. I said no and there was no way i'd be able to choose the same colour either, cause my car came out that colour by mistake On the chart, the colour i choose looked dark red and that's what i told my painter it was, so you can imagine the panick when he sprayed the car and it was bright orange/lucuzade looking. Anyway, they've realised nowthat they are not going to be able to match the paint, so they've agreed to go through their insurance company (Norwich Union) I have to get the car to my painters and the insurance company will then send someone there to look at the damage and agree the repair cost with the garage, so the ball has started rolling. The only thing i'm not cool with is the fact that the interior may have to come out again when it gets re-sprayed. After all the hassell we had putting it in, not to mention all the wires and stuff for the ICE.

I'm booked in to go to a couple of shows next month, so i hope it gets done soon, but anyway thatnks for all the support and advise guys. Some of them may prove yet useful

[Jhonno]

Ha ha! Nice one Bootyman!

Hopefully it'll get sorted asap!

[johnono]

what a fack up boots, get the shit sorted geeza.

[Danstable]

"You bunch of muppets amaze me. Talk about an abbbrogggation of responsibility... "

So Bootyman is a muppet for taking his car to get some work done, payed the going rate (whatever the garage quoted), and is now annoyed that the garage wrecked his car? I think he has every right to be annoyed and I don't think you can blame him even if he did go for the best deal (cheapest).

In the real world as you put it, market forces dictate pricing, and it is the consumers' choice as to who gets their business. Wherever the consumer goes they should expect to get a reasonable level of service, if the company can't provide that level of service then they should consider raising their prices and employing less monkeys......otherwise insurance claims etc. will put them out of business one day.

Looking at Bootyman's car I suspect that he probably went to a reasonably respectable garage......as he doesn't seem shy about spending money! Regardless of where he went or what he paid, by taking his money the garage 'signed up' to do a job, regardless, therefore they are responsible.

I'm just amazed that you refered to everyone on this thread as muppets to be honest!

[Simon]

I'm just amazed that you refered to everyone on this thread as muppets to be honest!

Click on his name, and take a look at some of his previous posts mate, it seems he is the only muppet on the zone, he seems to like abusing everyone, and then has the cheek to ask for advise....

[bootyman]

It's funny cause i didnt even take my car to that MOT garage. As i said in my original post, i took it to a friend who run a Fiat dealership becuase they have a beautiful servicing area at the back and i thought it was them that was going to do the MOT. I dodnt realise until i went to pick the car up that they took their car up the road to another garage. Besides, who can you choose to take your car to a cheaper garage for an MOt? I thought they all charged the same money for a MOT? Anyway, i dont want this thread to become another slagging thread, so i'll refrain from commenting about Mr pomebastard. I think his name say's it all really

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Any update on the respray situation???

[bootyman]

I have to take the car to the bodyshop on Monday for them to look at the damage. I reckon i'll need a new front bumber and front wing. If that proves to be the case, then it would be a full respray, but if they can somehow repair the damage without replacing things, then i might get away with it, but i doubt the very much

[Rosc0PColtrane]

I have to take the car to the bodyshop on Monday for them to look at the damage. I reckon i'll need a new front bumber and front wing. If that proves to be the case, then it would be a full respray, but if they can somehow repair the damage without replacing things, then i might get away with it, but i doubt the very much

If things don't go your way, threaten with trading standards. While the ins and outs of TS looking at your case may not raise questions about your particular problem, it may uncover something naughty elsewhere they are doing. Trading Standards are meticulous and like sniffing rogues out!!

Roughly how muxh have you spent on your beauty? If you don't mind me askin?

[Dom]

good to hear the garage are being fair and decent about it

perhaps things would be different if it was you who took it there not your business supplying mate...

[bootyman]

Hmm. I imagine the Fiat garage must put loads of business their way, and as mentioned it might have been different had i taken the car there myself. Saying that i would have made sure the car was in my sight at all times, so they wouldn't have been able to give it the "LETS SEE WHAT THIS BABY CAN DO CRAP" I have to take Monday off work now and as a contractor i wont be paid for it, so i'll just bill them for that too.

Blatant, i've spent about Ԛ£35k on the car (Including the cost of buying the car itself) I will be happy to give you the break down of whwere the money went if you want ?

[Kam320i_cab]

pm sent

[tommo320i]

is it really any wander why i'm so nervous about getting a garage to check my head and cooling system over, none of them can be trusted, oh I wish i done a mechanics course!!!

Hope you get it sorted real soon!

[Karan]

is it really any wander why i'm so nervous about getting a garage to check my head and cooling system over, none of them can be trusted, oh I wish i done a mechanics course!!!

Hope you get it sorted real soon!

i know what u mean--the annoying thing is that a lot of these garages follow the opinion that its an old car so its alrite if its not running 100%--i was told this by cooks ferry(renowned specialist apparently??) after spending Ԛ£900 there on work on my iS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bootyman]

I rang a garage up about the possiblitiy of changing my break reservoir unit and they quoted me some sill money, then said things might break when the unit is being changed and that i would have to pay for them. I told them where to go. I've also got friend who work in these places and i know they cain the nice cars that come in for a service etc. I know cause it's happened to me before when i saw a mechanic out posing in my car when they were suppose to be servicing it. That's why it's best to find people you can trust and stick with them

[TINSNIPS]

hi chaps not all of us motor mechanics take the p**s with customers motors, i take pride in what i do. but some motor traders r cowboys. mobile boys r the worst as they cant not do some jobs properley with out the aid of a ramp. so chaps check out your local workshops to find one you are happy with, stick with one you are happy with

[Jesus325iTouring]

Shame their not all like you than tinsnips,my firendly mechanic/bodywork guy was only telling me today about a car he had coming in for a bit o rust work.
Its a 95 Benz estate which has a bit of rust on the front wings.The guy who owns it was saying its just come back from an intermediate service where he was told the front subframe was rusty and needed replacing at a cost of two grand,funny that,the MOT six weeks ago didn't pick up on it!
Turns out,it just has the usual surface rust and needs a bit of Hammerite on it.
Also,on his bill was oil,costing,seventy seven pounds plus VAT,for a gallon,what kinda oil was this???? they had written it on his bill something like Ԛ£1 per unit @77 units(??) WTF??
This was a Benz garage i believe too.
Its so hard these days to find anyone you can really trust,fortunantly,I have one of those trust worthy mechanics,I do most of my own work,usually at his workshop where he gives me advice when i need it,shame there aren't more like him and yourself.

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Hmm. I imagine the Fiat garage must put loads of business their way, and as mentioned it might have been different had i taken the car there myself. Saying that i would have made sure the car was in my sight at all times, so they wouldn't have been able to give it the "LETS SEE WHAT THIS BABY CAN DO CRAP" I have to take Monday off work now and as a contractor i wont be paid for it, so i'll just bill them for that too.

Blatant, i've spent about Ԛ£35k on the car (Including the cost of buying the car itself) I will be happy to give you the break down of whwere the money went if you want ?

sure why not?

I was interested to see what it takes to get the cars to that standard. I need a new job me thinks!!!

[bootyman]

Well the stupid w@nkers made me take the car to the bodyshop yesterday for the insurance inspector to come and agree the work that needed doing, but the t@at never turned up. I had to take the day off work at a cost of Ԛ£200, i've also got Friday off because of Easter so i could not afford a wasted day, but that's exactly what it turned out to be.

For a start, i'm having to deal with 4 different companies and it's causing all sorts of madness. There's the MOT place that f@cked up the car, then their insurance brokers, then the insurance company the brokers are using, then a fourth company who do the damage inspection. I ring up and i'm passed from pillar to post because they are not very well co-ordinated so no one seems to know what's going on. I rang them 1st thing at 9 when i go to the bodyshop to make sure the inspector was coming and was told they'd call back in 30 min to confirm the time he will be there. 2pm and we were still waiting. Tried to ring about a million times and all we got was voice mail. I finally managed to get through about 4 and was told that the garage can go ahead with the repairs and to send an invoice in when the work was finished. I tried to expalian to them that it was a very dangerous way of doing things, because they were looking at a bill of around the Ԛ£5k to Ԛ£6k mark, but the person i was talking to knew bugger all about cars and paint, so he still went along with what he was saying. I then got him to repeat what he was telling me to bodyshop manager directly. He inturn tried to expain to them that the damage was superfacial so can be sorted easily enough, it was the paint that was going to be the problem, so he told them that if they wanted the work carried out without an inspection and were willing to pay the bill after, then to put it into writing just to make it legal so their back was covered. They said they will call back today to confirm, so now i'll have to wait again.

What a bloody headache just to get some prat to come and look at damage on a car

[billgatese30]

now why does that not suprise me mate. insurance compaines are like the government. if they owe money out then they have all the time in the world. but if you owe them money then they could track you down in seconds flat. good job lord lucan never owed the child support agency. he wouldn't have made it ten minutes from his front bloody door beofre they snagged the guy. hope it all works out mate. are you putting in a claim for loss of income? you should

[bootyman]

Might have to now. I'm starting to lose money from the car sitting there doing nothing. My mate pays me Ԛ£500 to go to shows or pays me to go to cruises and advertising his bompany, but i've had to give him his change back because i havent ben able to do either one of those things over the last few weeks

[bmwe30mtech]

Sorry to hear about that mate. By the way your car looked great in PBMW last month, its good to see something different on the E30 without ruining its style! Good job! Get the garage to pay for a full respray!

[Zayyan]

your car looked great in PBMW last month

Check out the Max Power pics and you'll change your mind

http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... pic&t=3822

Bootyman, I'm sorry to hear about the car too, the amount of work and money that must have gone into it is phenomenal.

Stick out for the full respray and loss of income is what I reckon

[bootyman]

Well i dropped the car off at the bodyshop today. The inspector is coming to look at the damage today, so i should know by tyhe afternoon what the deal is. If worse comes to worse, i'll just tell them to take the car to their own bodyshop and repair it to the standard it was before they damaged her and i'm not settling for anything less. I will sue their ass if i have to to get the work done

[Dom]

I don't think you should allow it to go to another bodyshop to be honest. Good sprayers are hard to find and probably won't be working in an insurance companies first choice place.

[bootyman]

He came to look at the car and rang me asking a miilion questions (He was well impressed with the car) but as usual, was trying the "BUT IT'S A 1992 CAR CRAP" I gave him a list and prices for all the mods done and he soon shut up. He's agreed in principal that the car needs a respray, but he's insisting that it can be done with the interior still in there. He's asked the garage for an official quote before he gives the go ahead, so they are sending it to him today. I reckon theye are still looking at leats Ԛ£4k. Ԛ£1.5k for paint and new front bumper and about Ԛ£2.5k for the respray itself. We'll see what they have to say then.

[Dom]

do you know what insurance company it is? Just so I can be sure not to get a quote there as premiums will be a tad more expensive soon

[bootyman]

The place that crashed the car is called SOLARS (They are Norwich Unions own repair centre) so stay away from Norwich Union

[SCOTT325SE]

Ben, you're a fcuking legend my friend and bullsh1t like this shouldn't be happening to you! Get someone at the garage to INSIST that the interior needs to be removed to do as good a job as was done before. If needs be dude, get a zoner to come round just as you "happen" to be there.. you know...someone who saw the car at max power live and have them "notice" that its gonna need a TOTAL respray with interior removed etc. Im sure one of us 2500+zone members would be happy to do it! (If i wasnt so far away, i'd "pop round" and "notice" it myself for you.

I know this thread has run 3 pages already and everyone has said it before me, but im really really gutted for you mate! Dont give up on either of your cars.... you're "The Bootyman".... crazy, badass, car-styling supreemo....... if you sold either car it wouldnt be the same and you know no-one could love her the way you do.

I would suggest trying to milk the insurance for some other work....but your car doesnt need anything done!!!!

[bootyman]

Cheers Scott. Like you said, this thread has run 3 pages and I like everyone else is getting rather tired with the whole thing. I just want them to repair the car one way or another, so i can start going to the Zone meets, shows and generally enjoy my summer. See the problem is people look at a car like mine and they they think "NICE CAR", but have no idea of the amount of effort and money that's gone into it. The E30 is an old car, but i wanted a new car, so i built my car replacing anything old that could come off with new parts because we didnt want to cut corners and that's where there money went to, yet Mr insurance man comes along and he tries the "Yeah, but this is a 13 year old car crap" They will pay one way or another cause i can prove that my car may be 13 years old, but it's better than most new cars "AT LEAST IN MY EYES ANYWWAY"

[SCOTT325SE]

and in my eyes mate!

Chin-up fella!

oh, and its nice to put a face to a name and to a car at last (Max Power photos)..... ....damn, you really are a big cnut arent you! FPMSL!

[bootyman]

Ho, you're on about my Chav photo in Max P. iI had nothing to do with that mate. Honest. They made me do it and i thought it was only for a laugh. I was a little shocked when they actually printed that damn thing . As for being bif, i was 17 stone and 5,9/10, but i stopped going to the gym about a year ago, so i'm down to just under 16 stones now. Funny cause i joined a gym again 3 weekes ago and i went the following week. I'd gone from pench pressing 150kilos to struggling with 80 kilos. I was also in so much pain for days after that i had trouble even having a shower and i was walking round like i had melons under my arms, so i've sort of got lazy again, but i will go from next week (Honest)