One of the best tech 1 sports......

[magpie]

waste the sellers time more like

[ross_jsy]

Exactly!! . Bab should buy that and save himself a lot of time, effort and money on his project.

"Priced really well"

You still wouldn't part with the cash!


I'd hate to have a low mileage - concourse car.

You'd be scared to enjoy it.....
I enjoy the 'build'

I can't think of anymore excuses

I could buy that without thinking about it. However, with a planned house move and not enough garage space, it presents a challenge. The timing is all wrong

I'll rent you a secure underground parking space at my new place

[Gert_8]

Hahaha.

I've told you already, but I'll say it again - I am not taking part in the dungeon sex film you're planning!




*I will once you get Verde to sign the contract and agree the safe word.

[SHAKEELE30]

theyve also got the les stannard car for sale ...


http://www.odaviscars.com/stockdetails.asp?StockID=9267

[DanThe]

Bargain if you ask me. Worth 10k all day,why do a rebuild when u can have this as built by bmw.

Its nigh on 30 years old, its not going to be as good as a properly rebuilt car, BMW service history or not.

[bss325i]

Bargain if you ask me. Worth 10k all day,why do a rebuild when u can have this as built by bmw.

Its nigh on 30 years old, its not going to be as good as a properly rebuilt car, BMW service history or not.

I've never seen a properly rebuilt sport though.

[bss325i]

10k and looks nice, nevertheless for that money, i'd still want all 4 Centre Badges and no M badge!

Says the man with all the alpina stuff on his 325i cabrio.

[bab-91]

Bargain if you ask me. Worth 10k all day,why do a rebuild when u can have this as built by bmw.

Its nigh on 30 years old, its not going to be as good as a properly rebuilt car, BMW service history or not.

I've never seen a properly rebuilt sport though.

Why didn't you say so!


You can manage my built!

[bss325i]

Hope you've got deep pockets!

[pacerpete]

Hope you've got deep pockets!

He 'll need mote than deep pockets. A decent base car would be a start !

[Simon13]

They're only low milege once or factory tight, in this climate that is a corker! They've a 3.6 e34 M5 forsale with a rebuilt engine in green they've had for a while

[bss325i]

They're only low milege once or factory tight

+1000000!

[suchy]

Bargain if you ask me. Worth 10k all day,why do a rebuild when u can have this as built by bmw.

Its nigh on 30 years old, its not going to be as good as a properly rebuilt car, BMW service history or not.

I've never seen a properly rebuilt sport though.

BeardyMatts?

[bss325i]

Its nigh on 30 years old, its not going to be as good as a properly rebuilt car, BMW service history or not.

I've never seen a properly rebuilt sport though.

BeardyMatts?

Nope.

The reason being that to properly restore a body shell it needs to be acid dipped and E coated. If a body shell has got to the point of being rusty then repaired then the only way to truly rid it of corrosion is the method outlined.

[Andyboy]

I've never seen a properly rebuilt sport though.

BeardyMatts?

Nope.

The reason being that to properly restore a body shell it needs to be acid dipped and E coated. If a body shell has got to the point of being rusty then repaired then the only way to truly rid it of corrosion is the method outlined.

I guess that includes Simon's car then?

[bss325i]

BeardyMatts?

Nope.

The reason being that to properly restore a body shell it needs to be acid dipped and E coated. If a body shell has got to the point of being rusty then repaired then the only way to truly rid it of corrosion is the method outlined.

I guess that includes Simon's car then?

Indeed. I told him to get it dipped before worked started at the bodyshop all those years ago.

[Andyboy]

It's scrap then. Best get it weighed in.

Mind you, he won't have acid in all the seams eating it away in 4-5 years, a small consolation.

[bss325i]

So in your opinion this,

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 01&start=0

and this,

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 56&start=0

and every other acid dipped car are f ucked then?

Best get these weighed as well!

[rh306]

I like the way any restored car on here is considered a bodged up snotter. It's just a fact that there are hardly any untouched originals left and certainly not enough to go round (and they're unlikely to be rust free anyway)

Lindner Nocker Jaguar = Bodged up snotter

[bss325i]

I certainly dont consider ANY restored car a bodged up snotter but there are plenty of them round these parts.

[bab-91]

Hope you've got deep pockets!

Do you accept payment in the form of tea?

He 'll need mote than deep pockets. A decent base car would be a start !

It's the bestest car in the world! You'll see!

[Andyboy]

So in your opinion this,

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 01&start=0

and this,

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 56&start=0

and every other acid dipped car are f ucked then?

Best get these weighed as well!

No, but unlike you, I don't know everything.

[suchy]

I have heard contrasting stories about acid dipping cars, some swear by it while others seriously advise against it due to not being able to comletely remove all traces of the acid from seams/joints/etc. which has a detrimental effect further on down the line. Of course this can be argued against which is worse, acid effect or rust?

[DanThe]

Thing is, if there are only a handful of rusty areas that need fixing is your car still deemed 'improper' because its not been dumped in a vat of acid?

They dont all need the acid treatment Barry

[rh306]

I thought soda blasting was now the preferred method?

[Andyboy]

It is. I restored a 1965 Cooper S in 1990 and had it sandblasted. You blast everything except outer skin panels and they prime itstraight away with etch primer. It was painted on a spit-roast and waxoyled to buggery afterwards. That car hasn't been restored since.

[Speedtouch]

Any pics.

[DanThe]

It is. I restored a 1965 Cooper S in 1990 and had it sandblasted.

Do/did you like welding?

[Andyboy]

It is. I restored a 1965 Cooper S in 1990 and had it sandblasted.

Do/did you like welding?

No, I can't weld for toffee. Someone else did it! It's now in Denmark so I'm told, last saw it about 5 years ago. Still the same BL vented sills I bought from Hartwells 24 years ago and the pattern front wings that never quite fitted perfectly to the scuttle - he had to braze the joint to get it right.

It really was a rotten teabag though, and needed every panel in the book. Typical 25 year old Mini then.

[bss325i]

So in your opinion this,

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 01&start=0

and this,

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 56&start=0

and every other acid dipped car are f ucked then?

Best get these weighed as well!

No, but unlike you, I don't know everything.

Andy Andy Andy, i expect a better reply than that mate!

"you fink you no evryfin" replies are what i expect from a stoppy teen!

Obviously i dont know everything, no body does!

I have heard contrasting stories about acid dipping cars, some swear by it while others seriously advise against it due to not being able to comletely remove all traces of the acid from seams/joints/etc. which has a detrimental effect further on down the line. Of course this can be argued against which is worse, acid effect or rust?

Yes there are reports of people having issues regarding this and as with most things, people are more vocal when something bad happens than something good.

I have been scouring the interweb reading countless forums and despite my remarks about people with bad experiences being more vocal, the positive experiences FAR outweigh the bad ones.

As with any body repair process, the result is only as good as the person doing it, we've all seen shocking paint, welding etc so there are bound to be some instances where the company carrying out the acid removal process had not been thorough but this thankfully seems to be in the minority.

The process involves immersing the body in acid then immersing in an alkali to neutralise the acid before immersing again for an E-coat.

Where ever the acid can get to, so can the alkai!

I thought soda blasting was now the preferred method?

Soda blasting has its own issues but more importantly, NO media blasting of any sort will fully eradicate corrosion from a complex structure such as a body shell.

Panel seams, box sections etc are just not fully accessible by media blasting.

This is from inside an E30 roof section with one of the seams cut off by drilling the spot welds.

As you can see there is some surface rust starting to develop between the panel joins and some bubbling in the in the cavity which was part of the roof frame.

No amount of blasting will remove this kind of corrosion.

Thing is, if there are only a handful of rusty areas that need fixing is your car still deemed 'improper' because its not been dumped in a vat of acid?

They dont all need the acid treatment Barry

How can you truly know the full extent of the body corrosion?

I'm not saying every E30 body shell needs to be acid dipped, they all need to be judged on their own merits.

Something that's been heated garaged all its life and never seen a drop of rain is hardly going to need dipping but all these E30 bodies getting extensive rot repair such inner and outer arches, inner and outer sills, roofs etc should be for a lasting repair.

And from the man himself,

i cant tell you how much i want to pull my car apart and get it dipped, proper blank canvas stuff and just about the only way to end up with a rust free shell.

from page 4 of the x-works thread.

And to cap it off....

From the Oxford dictionary

Restoration

1The action of returning something to a former owner, place, or condition:

1.1The process of restoring a building, work of art, etc. to its original condition

An E30 body shell was E-coated when constructed so back to my original statement,

i've never seen a 325i Sport properly restored, merely repaired.

[Andyboy]

I'm not saying every E30 body shell needs to be acid dipped

You implied otherwise earlier. To quote:

"The reason being that to properly restore a body shell it needs to be acid dipped and E coated. If a body shell has got to the point of being rusty then repaired then the only way to truly rid it of corrosion is the method outlined".

[bss325i]

I'm not saying every E30 body shell needs to be acid dipped

You implied otherwise earlier. To quote:

"The reason being that to properly restore a body shell it needs to be acid dipped and E coated. If a body shell has got to the point of being rusty then repaired then the only way to truly rid it of corrosion is the method outlined".

Where in that sentence does it say "every"?

I said if its got to the point of being rusty, ie rear arches, front floors, sills, roof, bulk head etc ie any of the usual E30 areas the acid dip is the way forward.

[Andyboy]

You said 'to properly restore a bodyshell' - you didn't specify a percentage, or a point at which it needs acid dipping.

If it were not rusty, why would you repair it?

[bss325i]

Don't be factious Andy, its obvious I was talking about a bodyshell that needs restoring.

[Andyboy]

Fine, whatever.