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Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:30 am

my boss wants a 300C...he currently has an alfa berera (sp) which ironically is plagued with electrical problems.

i gave up telling him to get something german.
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:42 am

Ninja_Penguin wrote:my boss wants a 300C...he currently has an alfa berera (sp) which ironically is plagued with electrical problems.

i gave up telling him to get something german.
breras are gorgeous, good cars but, as with all italian cars, the electrics are installed by mice on acid.

that was one reason i was drawn to german cars bmw in particular. im a huge mike burroughs fan, ( waits for OEM hatred ) and when i spoke to him and he told me he put half a million miles on his engine and it was fine i knew that was good engineering
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:46 am

Ironically, My boss gave me my E30 as a bonus.

Now he only complains when i dont wash it before i come to work.
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:58 am

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Kos wrote:e30's are old

what do you expect his reaction to be ?
well not spend the best part of half an hour telling me id wasted money on an absolute bucket of shit hed happily set on fire. thought he would atleast be man enough to say, not my cup of tea but good luck. people get on at my generation for not appreciating classics and being out of touch with past greatness and it can be the exact opposite
Maybe if what you choose to drive is so important to your boss he should put his hand in his pocket and give you a company car which meets with his approval. Otherwise he can fook off.
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:46 pm

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verde wrote:
Kos wrote:e30's are old

what do you expect his reaction to be ?
well not spend the best part of half an hour telling me id wasted money on an absolute bucket of shit hed happily set on fire. thought he would atleast be man enough to say, not my cup of tea but good luck. people get on at my generation for not appreciating classics and being out of touch with past greatness and it can be the exact opposite
Maybe if what you choose to drive is so important to your boss he should put his hand in his pocket and give you a company car which meets with his approval. Otherwise he can fook off.
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:28 pm

i stopped driving e30's years ago because they are old and not as nice or as good at the daily commute as a modern car

my last 3 daily cars have been e36 touring e46 touring and e39 saloon


ps, got you car unlocked yet? you boss wont be impressed if you didnt make to work or he'll be rolling around laughing

but seriously i've just seen pics of your car, but its rough. what do you expect. to most people e30s are old cars and scrap

but a nice e30 is a rare thing and not a daily car
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:22 pm

haha +2 on the company car idea. especially if its an e28, or another e30 thats not in such dire condition, cant beleive u got urs as a bonus kolee, thats mental.

my car aint even road legal kos so it didnt matter too much it didnt open, was a bit annoying, im not telling him it locked me out. my old man went out earlier, tried the key again and it just opened right away and started first time. my car is heavily bi polar and sounds healthier than it did last week. is it slowly healing itself?

ur right though my cars a bucket of shit, its gunna take ages to fix. tempted to try and get 500 bucks for it and hunt down an e28 or another 30 thats better nick.
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:54 pm

i would get an e36 that works and is presentable if you are on a budget and leave the e30 to a project/toy
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:34 pm

You'll have the last laught when his overpriced Audi's electronics go tits up and he has to spend 300 quid on a dealer only diagnostic only to find it's the a single LED gone on the fancy looking front end and thats it's another 400quid to order the 'entire' component because you can't just get 'one' LED and get it fitted in the dealership because it means taking off the entire front end of the car and he can't do it because of the multiple airback sensors that need to be blocked first blah blah blah blah . . . . .

Cars over 20 years old or thereabouts have many things going for them. One of them being they have the same amount of electronics as the space shuttle had, which means that you could take the thing to space and back and they will still work.

It's not a bad point actually, if he has a new car post five years old like you said, ask him if he can change a front light bulb . . . . . There ain't many car's that I've seen of the modern flavour that are easy access any more. Even things like mondeos need the front wheels removed to get at the back light panel.

It's almost as if the manufacturers now that their cars are now so reliable that they need a second revenue stream from the dealerships when your shiney shiney eneviatble fucks up just outside it's three year warrenty. It's almost as if they've designed it that way. . . . . .
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:21 pm

Funnybear wrote:You'll have the last laught when his overpriced Audi's electronics go tits up and he has to spend 300 quid on a dealer only diagnostic only to find it's the a single LED gone on the fancy looking front end and thats it's another 400quid to order the 'entire' component because you can't just get 'one' LED and get it fitted in the dealership because it means taking off the entire front end of the car and he can't do it because of the multiple airback sensors that need to be blocked first blah blah blah blah . . . . .

Cars over 20 years old or thereabouts have many things going for them. One of them being they have the same amount of electronics as the space shuttle had, which means that you could take the thing to space and back and they will still work.

It's not a bad point actually, if he has a new car post five years old like you said, ask him if he can change a front light bulb . . . . . There ain't many car's that I've seen of the modern flavour that are easy access any more. Even things like mondeos need the front wheels removed to get at the back light panel.

It's almost as if the manufacturers now that their cars are now so reliable that they need a second revenue stream from the dealerships when your shiney shiney eneviatble ***** up just outside it's three year warrenty. It's almost as if they've designed it that way. . . . . .
well siad funny bear! and kos an e30 makes a great daily! the only issue with them as a daily i can see is the cost of fuel! but a nice m50 b25 should help alot fuel wise!
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Funnybear wrote:You'll have the last laught when his overpriced Audi's electronics go tits up and he has to spend 300 quid on a dealer only diagnostic only to find it's the a single LED gone on the fancy looking front end and thats it's another 400quid to order the 'entire' component because you can't just get 'one' LED and get it fitted in the dealership because it means taking off the entire front end of the car and he can't do it because of the multiple airback sensors that need to be blocked first blah blah blah blah . . . . .

Cars over 20 years old or thereabouts have many things going for them. One of them being they have the same amount of electronics as the space shuttle had, which means that you could take the thing to space and back and they will still work.

It's not a bad point actually, if he has a new car post five years old like you said, ask him if he can change a front light bulb . . . . . There ain't many car's that I've seen of the modern flavour that are easy access any more. Even things like mondeos need the front wheels removed to get at the back light panel.

It's almost as if the manufacturers now that their cars are now so reliable that they need a second revenue stream from the dealerships when your shiney shiney eneviatble ***** up just outside it's three year warrenty. It's almost as if they've designed it that way. . . . . .
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:40 am

Someone fetch funnybear his well deserved crown. Couldnt have said that much better my friend. Your exactly right, maybe i will ask him if he can change a bulb. Or even a spark plug, i doubt hed have the right tool to remove the engine coverings, then the rest of the plastic shit and blah blah. My car stands out aswell, for the wrong reasons right now i admit but soon, soon it will shine
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:33 am

Who gives a f**k what people think?!!
If you enjoy the looks and grief of owning an old shitbox, then who cares what other people think?
I like mine and I'm proud to own it and drive it and care not a sh*t what others think :D
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:51 pm

madmax1410 wrote: kos an e30 makes a great daily! the only issue with them as a daily i can see is the cost of fuel! but a nice m50 b25 should help alot fuel wise!
an e36 makes a better daily

and a decent e36 costs less than a decent e30

going on to funnybears post

300 for dealer diagnostics ........... :roll:

independent garage is significantly less, as is a main dealer.

you'll find most cars these days have dedicated forums that help owners deal with problems they may come up against

your point on the electronics makes no sense at all. what is true though that e30's have less electrics/ecu's sensors etc to go wrong, but when they go wrong they can be a pain to sort out

i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions

if you want to wave the bmw/e30 flag with some any creditability get your "pub bragging" facts right

and yes, cars have been designed in a way to stop joe average with his spanner fucking about with them. they have also been designed to be more comfortable refined , safer, economical, more powerful & easy to recycle. saying that e30's recycle them selves and turn into a pile of rust which can be swept away

e30's are great cars, there is no doubt about it however some of the members here need to take of their rose tinted specs

there are better cars especially for use as a daily turd
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:57 pm

my old boss used to rip me about my e30, even though it was mint. he thought he was gods gift in his honda s2000 shite...

but i loved it when his gold diggin missus wet herself over my 'old skool e30' when he made the mistake of takin her to work 1 day,
and i loved it even more when i pulled his pants down leaving work when he tried to make a point at a set of lights heading into some very scary bends.. you know his missus ripped him for it too winkeye
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I do my up most not to be seen in my touring in the work car park :mad:
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:43 pm

lol @ kieran

mrb27

you post is confusing, but they way i read is is she ( you bosses wife ) pissed on your car while you bent your boss over the bonnet and raped him

do you live in southampton by any chance ?
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mrb27 wrote:my old boss used to rip me about my e30, even though it was mint. he thought he was gods gift in his honda s2000 shite...

but i loved it when his gold diggin missus wet herself over my 'old skool e30' when he made the mistake of takin her to work 1 day,
and i loved it even more when i pulled his pants down leaving work when he tried to make a point at a set of lights heading into some very scary bends.. you know his missus ripped him for it too winkeye
haha sounds like ur car coulda one u some corporate poon!
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Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:35 am

I find the simple answer is,
"what is you favourite car??"

normally its a porsche/lambo/ferarri etc etc etc.

My reply is my favourite is the E30, and i have two....do you have a porsche/lambo etc? probably not.
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Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:36 pm

Kos wrote:
madmax1410 wrote: kos an e30 makes a great daily! the only issue with them as a daily i can see is the cost of fuel! but a nice m50 b25 should help alot fuel wise!
an e36 makes a better daily

and a decent e36 costs less than a decent e30

going on to funnybears post

300 for dealer diagnostics ........... :roll:

independent garage is significantly less, as is a main dealer.

you'll find most cars these days have dedicated forums that help owners deal with problems they may come up against

your point on the electronics makes no sense at all. what is true though that e30's have less electrics/ecu's sensors etc to go wrong, but when they go wrong they can be a pain to sort out

i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions

if you want to wave the bmw/e30 flag with some any creditability get your "pub bragging" facts right

and yes, cars have been designed in a way to stop joe average with his spanner ******* about with them. they have also been designed to be more comfortable refined , safer, economical, more powerful & easy to recycle. saying that e30's recycle them selves and turn into a pile of rust which can be swept away

e30's are great cars, there is no doubt about it however some of the members here need to take of their rose tinted specs

there are better cars especially for use as a daily turd
how does an e36 make a better daily? on paper they may be and with 2 standard cars! but anything the e36 has can be fitted to an e30 prity much! such as the engines the steering racks seats 5 stud hubs ect..

i looked up e30 vs e36 and the majority definatly preferes the e30 because of its great looks classic interiour and good handling! the main reason the e30 is so loved tough seems to be its driving feel as many say it feels like a go kart and this seems to be down to the testing that was carried out on them while on track! were as the e36 apparently was done with computers mainly.

also good e30s always hold there value! from what ive seen its hard to get 500 euro for a decent e36 318is the only one that holds any sort of good value is the m3 and 328i!

and on funneybears point diagnostics may not cost 300 pound. over here its around 100 to 120 euro which would be around 70 to 80 pounds! but his point is when these new motors start to give trouble with the electronics it will cost an arm and a leg to fix which it those! and now cars have electronics on every thing!

and as i said in a previous post in 20 odd years most of these new motors will be in the scrap yard as the electronic parts will eventualy become nla and wont be fixable and cost to much to repair the same goes for modern tractors!

in the end it comes down to personal preference! if we like all the same cars ect.. it would be a boring world
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mrLEE30 wrote:I find the simple answer is,
"what is you favourite car??"

normally its a porsche/lambo/ferarri etc etc etc.

My reply is my favourite is the E30, and i have two....do you have a porsche/lambo etc? probably not.
aint that the truth :thumb:
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madmax1410 wrote:
Kos wrote:
madmax1410 wrote: kos an e30 makes a great daily! the only issue with them as a daily i can see is the cost of fuel! but a nice m50 b25 should help alot fuel wise!
an e36 makes a better daily

and a decent e36 costs less than a decent e30

going on to funnybears post

300 for dealer diagnostics ........... :roll:

independent garage is significantly less, as is a main dealer.

you'll find most cars these days have dedicated forums that help owners deal with problems they may come up against

your point on the electronics makes no sense at all. what is true though that e30's have less electrics/ecu's sensors etc to go wrong, but when they go wrong they can be a pain to sort out

i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions

if you want to wave the bmw/e30 flag with some any creditability get your "pub bragging" facts right

and yes, cars have been designed in a way to stop joe average with his spanner ******* about with them. they have also been designed to be more comfortable refined , safer, economical, more powerful & easy to recycle. saying that e30's recycle them selves and turn into a pile of rust which can be swept away

e30's are great cars, there is no doubt about it however some of the members here need to take of their rose tinted specs

there are better cars especially for use as a daily turd
how does an e36 make a better daily? on paper they may be and with 2 standard cars! but anything the e36 has can be fitted to an e30 prity much! such as the engines the steering racks seats 5 stud hubs ect..

i looked up e30 vs e36 and the majority definatly preferes the e30 because of its great looks classic interiour and good handling! the main reason the e30 is so loved tough seems to be its driving feel as many say it feels like a go kart and this seems to be down to the testing that was carried out on them while on track! were as the e36 apparently was done with computers mainly.

also good e30s always hold there value! from what ive seen its hard to get 500 euro for a decent e36 318is the only one that holds any sort of good value is the m3 and 328i!

and on funneybears point diagnostics may not cost 300 pound. over here its around 100 to 120 euro which would be around 70 to 80 pounds! but his point is when these new motors start to give trouble with the electronics it will cost an arm and a leg to fix which it those! and now cars have electronics on every thing!

and as i said in a previous post in 20 odd years most of these new motors will be in the scrap yard as the electronic parts will eventualy become nla and wont be fixable and cost to much to repair the same goes for modern tractors!

in the end it comes down to personal preference! if we like all the same cars ect.. it would be a boring world
E36 is a better car. Other wise BMW would be going backwards. E30's are great but in the daily grind E36's are far superior. Much quieter, refined, safer and spacious and they still feel modern. They also are mostly less aggro as most E30's now are very old and have issues.
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Blitz wrote:
madmax1410 wrote:
Kos wrote: an e36 makes a better daily

and a decent e36 costs less than a decent e30

going on to funnybears post

300 for dealer diagnostics ........... :roll:

independent garage is significantly less, as is a main dealer.

you'll find most cars these days have dedicated forums that help owners deal with problems they may come up against

your point on the electronics makes no sense at all. what is true though that e30's have less electrics/ecu's sensors etc to go wrong, but when they go wrong they can be a pain to sort out

i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions

if you want to wave the bmw/e30 flag with some any creditability get your "pub bragging" facts right

and yes, cars have been designed in a way to stop joe average with his spanner ******* about with them. they have also been designed to be more comfortable refined , safer, economical, more powerful & easy to recycle. saying that e30's recycle them selves and turn into a pile of rust which can be swept away

e30's are great cars, there is no doubt about it however some of the members here need to take of their rose tinted specs

there are better cars especially for use as a daily turd
how does an e36 make a better daily? on paper they may be and with 2 standard cars! but anything the e36 has can be fitted to an e30 prity much! such as the engines the steering racks seats 5 stud hubs ect..

i looked up e30 vs e36 and the majority definatly preferes the e30 because of its great looks classic interiour and good handling! the main reason the e30 is so loved tough seems to be its driving feel as many say it feels like a go kart and this seems to be down to the testing that was carried out on them while on track! were as the e36 apparently was done with computers mainly.

also good e30s always hold there value! from what ive seen its hard to get 500 euro for a decent e36 318is the only one that holds any sort of good value is the m3 and 328i!

and on funneybears point diagnostics may not cost 300 pound. over here its around 100 to 120 euro which would be around 70 to 80 pounds! but his point is when these new motors start to give trouble with the electronics it will cost an arm and a leg to fix which it those! and now cars have electronics on every thing!

and as i said in a previous post in 20 odd years most of these new motors will be in the scrap yard as the electronic parts will eventualy become nla and wont be fixable and cost to much to repair the same goes for modern tractors!

in the end it comes down to personal preference! if we like all the same cars ect.. it would be a boring world
E36 is a better car. Other wise BMW would be going backwards. E30's are great but in the daily grind E36's are far superior. Much quieter, refined, safer and spacious and they still feel modern. They also are mostly less aggro as most E30's now are very old and have issues.
"better" is simply a matter of perception. My E30 makes my smile everytime i drive it. Had an e36 a few years back. It was little more than a car to drive.

If your basing better on "quieter, refined, safer and spacious" we would all be driving corolla's.

You obviously like the E30 (otherwise you wouldnt be here) But i got mine to drive it, Not for a garage ornament.

Anyone that tells me im doing it wrong can suck my fat one.
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Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:29 pm

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i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions
correct me if im wrong...but doesnt a calculator? lol

on the E36 front...everyone down here has E36's because they are cheap. but then again im the kind of person who hates anything electrical in cars.
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i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions
correct me if im wrong...but doesnt a calculator? lol

on the E36 front...everyone down here has E36's because they are cheap. but then again im the kind of person who hates anything electrical in cars.
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Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:26 pm

I get nothing but people turning heads as I cruise through town :cool:

Stock iS ftw.




Although having said that a friend in the past did call it a Grandad car, to which I replied with some abuse about how she's 21 and not passed her driving test yet. I won that one.
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Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:26 pm

I really wouldn't worry about what your boss thinks he must be one these people who changes his car every 5 years or less,thus loves going to a main dealer if he has any problems and don't forget we live in a throw away society,where everybody drives the same looking car!He just hasn't got a clue..Anyway love your car :cool: :cool:
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:18 am

People who know about cars rate/respect the E30.

The type of individuals who try to take the piss are the same who finance themselves up to the hilt just so they have a brand new plate 1.9 TDi euro blandbox. Take no notice.
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Ninja_Penguin wrote:
Kos wrote:
i think you'll find the link between bmw electronics is that when the e32 750il, it was claimed that the car had more computing power than the apollo missions
correct me if im wrong...but doesnt a calculator? lol

on the E36 front...everyone down here has E36's because they are cheap. but then again im the kind of person who hates anything electrical in cars.

it probably does, but my point was in reference to the gibberish posted by
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Cars over 20 years old or thereabouts have many things going for them. One of them being they have the same amount of electronics as the space shuttle had, which means that you could take the thing to space and back and they will still work.
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:11 pm

madmax1410 wrote: how does an e36 make a better daily? on paper they may be and with 2 standard cars! but anything the e36 has can be fitted to an e30 prity much! such as the engines the steering racks seats 5 stud hubs ect..

i looked up e30 vs e36 and the majority definatly preferes the e30 because of its great looks classic interiour and good handling! the main reason the e30 is so loved tough seems to be its driving feel as many say it feels like a go kart and this seems to be down to the testing that was carried out on them while on track! were as the e36 apparently was done with computers mainly.

also good e30s always hold there value! from what ive seen its hard to get 500 euro for a decent e36 318is the only one that holds any sort of good value is the m3 and 328i!

and on funneybears point diagnostics may not cost 300 pound. over here its around 100 to 120 euro which would be around 70 to 80 pounds! but his point is when these new motors start to give trouble with the electronics it will cost an arm and a leg to fix which it those! and now cars have electronics on every thing!

and as i said in a previous post in 20 odd years most of these new motors will be in the scrap yard as the electronic parts will eventualy become nla and wont be fixable and cost to much to repair the same goes for modern tractors!

in the end it comes down to personal preference! if we like all the same cars ect.. it would be a boring world
the fact e36 parts are fitted to e30's says one thing

e36's have better engines better steering racks........

e36 is a better handling car, not as 'entertaining' or 'fun' and an e30 but has more grip.

an e30 is a long way away from a go cart, if you want a car that feels like a go car go buy an mazda

why do people like the e30's

retro cool
the wanted one as child
they want to go drifing
simply they like them.

im of teh opinion that they are great cars, i've had almost every e30 going, but i wont drive one any more as a daily because there are better cars for the job, and the uninspiring toyota corolla included
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:18 pm

I used to get abuse from my boss all the time because hes an alfa romeo fan but i let him have a go in my iS and he wants to buy it off me..

hes been pestering me for my 3.5i for ages now and i wont sell it to anyone lol

Normally i get alot of thumbs up when out and about and alot of "is that car for sale?" remarks which are irritating at first then kind of cool when you think the car is 20 years old and people still want them!

Yea technically not as good as what BMW produced after..engineering only goes one way and thats forward.. but i really couldnt care less.. I love these machines!
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:40 pm

I'm with Kos! they're only good for a few hours and then tuck em away.

I'm known as the pikey when I turn up in the touring but I like my beer and when I frequent the pub after work I can leave the shitter there and I know some toe rag hasn't lifted it come the morning.
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:08 pm

cee wrote:Although having said that a friend in the past did call it a Grandad car, to which I replied with some abuse a out how she's 21 and not passed her driving test yet. I won that one.
I call mine my grandad car as a compliment :D
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