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Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:34 am

Dezzy, Polsta doesn't ask questions unless he has decided on the answers :)
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:47 am

Morat wrote:Dezzy, Polsta doesn't ask questions unless he has decided on the answers :)
It's been noticed by the chosen few mate. 8)
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:16 am

Dezzy wrote: You shouldn't needed to be asking these stupid fooking questions

All your asking is...

Should I get 2 scratch's sorted out? Yet you took it to your paint man who wanted to see the kit off?

Wtf are you talking about? :mad:
Morat wrote:Dezzy, Polsta doesn't ask questions unless he has decided on the answers :)
WTF :?

paint mans talking make the car 100% mint , inc doing underneath the kit yes to give me an all in price, like i said re painting the whole side, bonnet-pass wing (which doesnt need paint) for £600 , and to sort the rear arch bits would need to see it with kit off to have any idea about extent and price there, which is obvious

QUESTION im asking/debating on a purely paint basis , as under the kit will all be sorted anyway, is...do you spend/it it really worth doing- £600 and re painting all that, just to sort the mentioned blemishes as highlighted, or just re paint the door and boot and cut the hole out for the ariel,leave the wings and bonnet and whole rear quarter,and save £450-500 say for the sake of a tiny spot of laquer peel and a cple of minute blemishes on the bonnet

thats all im asking, what part of that do you not comprehend ??

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Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:32 am

polsta wrote:
the ariel has been removed and fillerd, and theres a couple of little bubbles on the top

and the back of the rear arches- the lips just by the kit are a bit ropey
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polsta wrote:hence why saying just get the deep scratches sorted...ie wont they rust ??
polsta wrote: why cant anyone talk about anything other than rust on a sport on here?
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because that's one of it's main features ususally mate :wink:

BTW: £600 sounds like a good price IMO :)
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:32 am

polsta wrote:
thats all im asking, what part of that do you not comprehend ??

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The point that we are all attempting to make is that there is little point in spending £600 on COSMETIC work,until the kit comes off to inspect the hidden,structurial areas of this car.Then you MAY find that your money is better spent repairing the inevitable rust damage....then have the thing's minor scratches tarted up..... :mad:
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:46 am

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thats all im asking, what part of that do you not comprehend ??

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The point that we are all attempting to make is that there is little point in spending £600 on COSMETIC work,until the kit comes off to inspect the hidden,structurial areas of this car.Then you MAY find that your money is better spent repairing the inevitable rust damage....then have the thing's minor scratches tarted up..... :mad:
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:07 am

Mate, i think you are getting a good deal on that and the car will look superb when its done.

Could you PM the details of the paint shop to me please as i'll definately get a quote for mine there.

thanks

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Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:15 am

Jhonno wrote:
daimlerman wrote:
polsta wrote:
thats all im asking, what part of that do you not comprehend ??

:roll:
The point that we are all attempting to make is that there is little point in spending £600 on COSMETIC work,until the kit comes off to inspect the hidden,structurial areas of this car.Then you MAY find that your money is better spent repairing the inevitable rust damage....then have the thing's minor scratches tarted up..... :mad:
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Oh this oh very this.... :(
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:47 am

daimlerman wrote:
polsta wrote:
thats all im asking, what part of that do you not comprehend ??

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The point that we are all attempting to make is that there is little point in spending £600 on COSMETIC work,until the kit comes off to inspect the hidden,structurial areas of this car.Then you MAY find that your money is better spent repairing the inevitable rust damage....then have the thing's minor scratches tarted up..... :mad:
but the thing is, im NOT talking about the rust/under kit , that will all be sorted during the winter, no matter what ,if it costs £100 or £10000 it will be done, thats a seperate issue in its self, weather i get the paint done now or after then....thats all im talking about here ,not difficult is it
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:50 am

Two trips to any paint shop will invariably cost more than one that sorts everything out. You'd do better to live with the issues you have at the moment, and get the complete car checked and painted when it's 'off the road'.
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:57 am

i agree with that.

seems pointless doing a quick fix on some pretty minor issues, and then sending it back for more work over the winter. the car looks great as it is, just drive it and enjoy it, then when it comes off the road do the job properly in one hit.
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:14 pm

no thats not hwo it is, there wont be paint done, then more, as of course thats pointless

the boot needs doing no matter what, 2 deep scratches , havign to look at them every day along with the ones on the door, starting to grate at me

but, there is no more winter paint... its either just re paint boot, and the door, live with the laquer on wing and the very minor bonnet ones, forever/until a time when more paint is really needed, ie might be good for a few years etc

or...spend £600, ok will look imaculate, but hundreds of ££ and re painting 2 wings and a bonnet, whole side, to just sort a few very minor blemishes other than the scratches, thats whats im debating
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:53 pm

Get the kit off and see if there is any rust under there FIRST. If its all good, have your scratches taken care of. If its nasty then have it all looked at at the same time during the winter. simples
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:59 pm

What we're saying is: Until you have checked under the kit, both your options are pointless. The Titanic looked pretty mint above the waterline....just a couple of scratches to fill in!

Get the kit off, show us your lovely minty sills and all will be well.
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:03 pm

Morat wrote:What we're saying is: Until you have checked under the kit, both your options are pointless. The Titanic looked pretty mint above the waterline....just a couple of scratches to fill in!

Get the kit off, show us your lovely minty sills and all will be well.
What you dont understand is he'll throw 10k at it over the winter if he has too.....


For now he wants to blow the boot in and is pretending to want opinions from zoners.

Then ask why no one thinks he should do what he wants. Now where have i seen that before.... :roll:
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:07 pm

Bodywork needs attacking in one hit (once the kit and bumpers have been removed so that a proper job can be done as recommended by the bodyshop - but also to avoid painting a trussed up turd as you don't know what may be lurking underneath the kit) despite how pretty the car may look. It does look a very nice car.

Personally, I would be paying for at least a full lower half respray (leaving out the roof) as just blowing over various panels will have it looking like a patchwork quilt as the colour match just won't happen.
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E30BeemerLad wrote:Bodywork needs attacking in one hit (once the kit and bumpers have been removed so that a proper job can be done as recommended by the bodyshop - but also to avoid painting a trussed up turd as you don't know what may be lurking underneath the kit) despite how pretty the car may look. It does look a very nice car.

Personally, I would be paying for at least a full lower half respray (leaving out the roof) as just blowing over various panels will have it looking like a patchwork quilt as the colour match just won't happen.
I've just read this thread and this is the most sensible thing that has been said. Silver can be a right sh1t to match up let alone a door here, a bumper corner there etc etc

Polsta, you always want "mint" I notice you use the word alot and that means have it all done properly in one hit or be prepared to be going to and from the body shop.

In my opinion if you use this car it will NEVER be completely mint

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Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:02 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:Bodywork needs attacking in one hit (once the kit and bumpers have been removed so that a proper job can be done as recommended by the bodyshop - but also to avoid painting a trussed up turd as you don't know what may be lurking underneath the kit) despite how pretty the car may look. It does look a very nice car.

Personally, I would be paying for at least a full lower half respray (leaving out the roof) as just blowing over various panels will have it looking like a patchwork quilt as the colour match just won't happen.
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Think i'd rather live with a couple of scratches than a patchy paint job, at least you won;t have paid for the scratches.

Also got to echo what others have said regarding getting that kit off before going ahead with any paint, no point getting a panel painted up to then find another section needs chopping out.

I'd just live with the paint defects until it's off the road for the winter and then get them all done in one hit along with any welding that may (or may not) need doing.
polsta wrote: top section of the rear bumper needs re painting, had a shifty paint over chrome jobby done on it
Hope you'll be trying to source a proper tech 1 bumper, painting over chrome never lasts unfortuneately.
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:30 pm

Another thing to consider is whether Mr bodyshop man repairs the rust 100 correctly. Many cars I've seen that have had rust repaired, a few years later end up far worse than they would have if left alone.
You MUST remove the kit. It was the first thing I did when I got mine. If there is grot above the kit, there is grot underneath it.
Mine requires less work than yours from the sound of it yet my budget is far higher. I've had cheap paintwork/panelwork done before and know its just not worth it. I need guarantee that the work done will be of the highest quality and that comes at a price.
I'm not saying don't trust your bloke because he's cheap, just make sure he does it right. A visit to the wrong bodyshop can ruin a car forever!
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Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:40 pm

Kedge wrote:
Hope you'll be trying to source a proper tech 1 bumper, painting over chrome never lasts unfortuneately.
i will do, it looks like its been rattle can painted, not even a perfect color match, adit had a rummage but didnt have a great one, although i know getting a real nice one is probably a tall order ? can the paint over chrome not be sanded right back with a machine to bare metal and painted like that ? ie stripping the chrome ?
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Some people swear that you can prep chrome to take take it that it won't flake off in a few years. Anyone i know that does bodywork for a living won't even consider painting it though. No idea about sanding back past the chrome though. If your patient a proper bumper will turn up and you won't have to worry.
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polsta wrote:
Kedge wrote:
Hope you'll be trying to source a proper tech 1 bumper, painting over chrome never lasts unfortuneately.
i will do, it looks like its been rattle can painted, not even a perfect color match, adit had a rummage but didnt have a great one, although i know getting a real nice one is probably a tall order ? can the paint over chrome not be sanded right back with a machine to bare metal and painted like that ? ie stripping the chrome ?
The bumper can be de-chromed by any chrome plater.

It goes through the same electroplating process, but instead of adding it, it removes it.

Your bumper will then be a bare steel item ready ro prepare for painting.

Much easier and more practical than sanding the chrome off!!
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Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:11 pm

ok thanks for thatb info, any idea how much it costs ? ie compared to a new bumper is that worth doing ?
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Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:57 pm

Polsta no need to remove the LH side kit as I said to you when you bought it from me the sill and paintwork underneath is 100%. Cant say for the RH side though as I never took the kit off. Hope you are enjoying her. Dom
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Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:38 pm

Morat wrote:Dezzy, Polsta doesn't ask questions unless he has decided on the answers :)
Spot on.

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polsta wrote:ok thanks for thatb info, any idea how much it costs ? ie compared to a new bumper is that worth doing ?
A bike frame cost me about 40 notes to have de-chromed.

I guess it will depend who does it for you.
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:38 am

Blimey. 3 pages on a question!

Just get the bloody kit off and see the whole picture. if thats happening in the winter why blow money on scratches now? Experience tells us all that theres a huge chance that when the kit and bumpers are off, that £600 will be better spent elsewhere and you'll live with thescratches for another year....if 600 quid is your budget. You may be lucky and a good clean up under there suffices.
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:10 pm

Polsta, bring your turd to the Hindhead tunnel run and BSS Barry and my good self will remove your body kit and do a full structural autopsy FOC in the cafe car park :D


PS You better bring a shovel and a brush as the management will probably not take too kindly to 50kg of tech 1/rust / P40 left in the car park ! :eek:
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pacerpete wrote:Polsta, bring your turd to the Hindhead tunnel run and BSS Barry and my good self will remove your body kit and do a full structural autopsy FOC in the cafe car park :D


PS You better bring a shovel and a brush as the management will probably not take too kindly to 50kg of tech 1/rust / P40 left in the car park ! :eek:
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Hammerite works well on chrome bumpers, its a right coont to get off.
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spook wrote:Hammerite works well on chrome bumpers, its a right coont to get off.

Best thing to do with a chrome bumper is, beed blast them, take it back to steel with no finish at all. You need to fix any rust issues, obviously that might need debating. Then acid etch rattle can and halfords satin black FTW
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Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:04 pm

Did he quote you for a satin black finish? You wont get lacquer peel with that, just keep a can in the boot for going over the orange/red bits as needed :eek:
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Acid etch rattle FTW, im sure you can get chrome satin paint, whats it bloody called satin chrome or
shadowline chrome, i saw a M coupe with this not sure what it cost though
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