BMW Classic to produce more parts for older BMW's.

[e301988325i]

Thing is, if anyone was able to get a spanking new shell, would they really
want to transfer the old tired bits from their old car
This would soon end up approaching Mortgage proportions, especially
for Chromies. Still a bloody good option though.

I'd rather that than transfer them to a 20 year shell which is in good nick for it's age. . .

You could get a new bare shell galvanised for a couple of hundred more!!!!!!

Are rear quarters fitted to a new shell?

[Jon_Bmw]

Imagine the pain if you were the poor chumley having to cost up an Mtec badge for an e30 316 carb, only for the customer to say 12.99 is too much.

3 hours looking for the drawing, 2 hours on the phone to suppliers...

Sad job.

I would say that BMW's pledge is pretty much marketing guff and excessive prices will mean that they don't have to do much, but they can claim they support all models

[bss325i]

Thing is, if anyone was able to get a spanking new shell, would they really
want to transfer the old tired bits from their old car
This would soon end up approaching Mortgage proportions, especially
for Chromies. Still a bloody good option though.

It all depends on the condition of the parts you have.

Powder coat suspension parts, rebuild other mechanical parts etc.

The main benifits of a new shell are in some cases work out cheaper than welding up a rusty shitter and above all, it never have been rusty or bent.

[Morat]

HANGON are those the prices for a new shell in 2010?? I assumed they were the c1990 prices. If you can really get a new shell for under £4k I'm gobsmacked.

[bss325i]

Imagine the pain if you were the poor chumley having to cost up an Mtec badge for an e30 316 carb, only for the customer to say 12.99 is too much.

3 hours looking for the drawing, 2 hours on the phone to suppliers...

Sad job.

I would say that BMW's pledge is pretty much marketing guff and excessive prices will mean that they don't have to do much, but they can claim they support all models

I'll certainly be puttin them to the test and i aint affraid to put my hand in my pocket.

[bss325i]

HANGON are those the prices for a new shell in 2010?? I assumed they were the c1990 prices. If you can really get a new shell for under £4k I'm gobsmacked.

I think, they were the prices when they went NLA in '97.

Deffo not '90 prices.

No doubt they will be more but i will find out more tomorrow.

[town325i]

I would say that BMW's pledge is pretty much marketing guff and excessive prices will mean that they don't have to do much, but they can claim they support all models

It might be marketing bull but i know when i was buying lots of parts for my e21 years ago alot of the stuff was nla but a few weeks later i asked again and they were and i asked the parts bloke why this was and he said if enough people ask about certain parts they will reproduce a certain number said parts to keep customers coming back.

[bss325i]

New RHD shaffer carpets please!

[pukar]

will this reduce the price of good cars that have been well looked after with rare parts??

[bss325i]

will this reduce the price of good cars that have been well looked after with rare parts??

I dont know about that but it will probably force the price of rusty M3 shells down!

Hartge/Alpina/Schnitzer parts will still remain rare and expensive no doubt.

[gooner1]

Thing is, if anyone was able to get a spanking new shell, would they really
want to transfer the old tired bits from their old car
This would soon end up approaching Mortgage proportions, especially
for Chromies. Still a bloody good option though.

It all depends on the condition of the parts you have.

Powder coat suspension parts, rebuild other mechanical parts etc.

The main benifits of a new shell are in some cases work out cheaper than welding up a rusty shitter and above all, it never have been rusty or bent.

Fully agree, but for example i had to order some clips for the
Horsehoe plastic covers recently, only needed 6 at 39P Each, only to be told that they can only be ordered in multiples of 20 now.
Soon adds up, and they can,t even be used anywhere else on the car.

Don,t get me wrong, i think it,s a brilliant idea and as a Marketing
example it has to be one of the best yet.
Also , speaking as someone who has had his car worked on by
Morons in the not so distant past, yes a new shell would quite possibly have worked out cheaper.

[Morat]

HANGON are those the prices for a new shell in 2010?? I assumed they were the c1990 prices. If you can really get a new shell for under £4k I'm gobsmacked.

I think, they were the prices when they went NLA in '97.

Deffo not '90 prices.

No doubt they will be more but i will find out more tomorrow.

Ah right. Well I'd expect them to be very much more expensive if they are from new production rather than spares from the original production run. I'm still fascinated by the concept of new shells being made though.

[e301988325i]

Looking a tyour sig Morat thinking it doesn't make driving 10 E30's through the sea along the causeway to holy island such a sin if new shells become available. . .

[DanThe]

Anybody priced up E21 bumpers?

I did along time ago and then they where £400 for the front complete and £500 for the complete rear bumber this was 6 years ago so im guessing they have gone up alot since then.

A pair of E21 bumpers with all fixings and fittings are now £1600, well, they were about 6 months ago, could have gone up again!

As Jon says, I wont believe a word of it until I see it (at extortionate prices no doubt), its all marketing bull IMO

[beardymat]

It may or may not all be marketing bull but you have to agree that BMW is still head and shoulders above other car manufacturers when it comes to keeping its heritage alive by servicing older models even if it is at a price and dont forget that some of that price of lately is due to our weak pound (moron poloticians???).

Im not sure if its accurate but i have read that BMW is still a family owned business and you can bet your life if it was my family run business i would cater for the people who care most passionately about my products which from the condition of most late model BMW`s i get through my doors doesnt include 75% of the newer car buyers even if most of the revenue generated comes from these people.

The thing you do have to remember guys is that it all comes down to numbers and if they add up then they will produce the parts.

[shimsheemer]

Definitely want mats!

Would be very interested in all sorts of bits. I spend enough time on Real OEM as it is!

[TouringTash]

barry you could sort your retirement out over this

[Simon13]

but £455 for a recon alternator isn't cricket. i've got the ache with the sheer expense of stuff. Im mean i was in there yesterday, 1 length of fuel hose in the engine bay 920mm long £28. WTF

[ildefonso]

Bmw has plans to produce the 2002 again in 2002 units available and finished in Portugal.
The estimated price of a new 2002 with 150hp would be 15000€,and it would pass the emissions test(i suppose) it's injection instead of carbs...
I think they are ment to be available in 2011...I'll have to check.

[TouringTash]

only 15000 euros?


as for the fuel pipe is that the rubber one as to pass the regs to carry petrol its going to cost a bit ...........

I've just rechecked and take that back Si I thought it read cm not mm.

[rh306]

Bmw has plans to produce the 2002 again in 2002 units available and finished in Portugal.
The estimated price of a new 2002 with 150hp would be 15000€,and it would pass the emissions test(i suppose) it's injection instead of carbs...
I think they are ment to be available in 2011...I'll have to check.

do you have a link for this, if it's true I'm guessing they'd sell out pretty quick

[Morat]

Hmm, how about some new E30s in 2030 then?

[kieran325]

Supply and demand will come at a price I dare say.

[TouringTash]

alas Morat they will only be making 30

[Morat]

perhaps they should make 1E+30?

[powelly]

HANGON are those the prices for a new shell in 2010?? I assumed they were the c1990 prices. If you can really get a new shell for under £4k I'm gobsmacked.

I think, they were the prices when they went NLA in '97.

Deffo not '90 prices.

No doubt they will be more but i will find out more tomorrow.

I can check this at work, we have price files for all manufacturers going back to the late 60's, I'll check those part numbers and get the pricing history. I'll have to get me a brand spanking new moredoor shell.

[bss325i]

Right small update. I contacted BMW park lane and got through to the person dealing with classic parts who incidently knows my current parts manager well.

Basicly i asked how much mileage there is in this "any part for any car" proppergander and he said that he doubts thats strictly true but Germany has to be contacted in the first intance for an NLA part and then its down to them weather they remake it or not.

I guess that will depend on demand!

He asked what type of car i was looking for parts for and told him E30 to which his response was most parts are still available.

He also asked what parts i was interested in and told him floor mats and body shells to which his response was that shells might not be remade as they are "a big part". None the less he took the part number for the 2dr facelift shell (i gave him that one as its the cheapest) and he said he would email Germany and then email me with the response.

He also asked if i had heard about the reintroduction of NLA parts in Cassic Car magazine to which i told him that i read about it in BMW Car magazine and a feauture in the Times.

I also told him that i was an active member on various BMW forums and that the general consensous is that there is a damand for NLA parts, E30's in particular.

I think if people really want to get the ball rolling then the demand will need to be there so, if you really want genuine BMW floor mats or what ever then get phoning BMW Park lane or BMW Germany.

BMW Park lane Battersea 0207 514 3559

BMW Classic Germany +49-89-382-30274

Email: Mark.Leach@bmw.de

http://www.bmw-classic.de

[powelly]

I got the following info:
TEC1 2dr
Non Sunroof 41001942096..... Price and history un available
With Sunroof 41001942098 £950..... last price change 1/11/02
TEC2 2dr
Non sunroof 41001966981 £1019.88..... last price change7/1/98
With Sunroof 41001966987 £1019.88..... last price change7/1/98
Convertible 87-90
41008106828 £837.38..... last price change 16/8/96
Convertible 90/-
41008134680 £3792.50..... Last price change 7/1/98
Touring
Non sunroof 41001947426 £3690.98.... Last price change 7/1/98
With Sunroof 41001947427 £4237.66.....Last price change 1/02/06

Info for 4 door shells is much the same as 2 door except for the part numbers, also for the convertible there are three part numbers, up to 87, 87-90 and 90 onwards, the early shell isn’t recognised on our price file though. So on the face of it the Sunroof Touring shells only disappeared 4 years ago. We do have a brand new M coupe shell sitting in our yard, could do something with that!!!!!

[polsta]

shells id think would be an astronomical amount now days if they were to re do them ? 5 times them prices at least i bet

but floor mats....id love a set yes please !

[SDM]

you guys are weird.

I would like part number 41002162690 please.

[Martinaston]

If they make more shells make sure they do it right this time and chop those jackng pads off the floor pan and seal the underside of the scuttle panel
ohh and a removable front panel
and a boot you can get shit in
and ...........

[Martinaston]

And a convertable metal top.......

[gareth]

why's the touring 2.8k more than a cab? is this taxing those of us with taste?

[town325i]

why's the touring 2.8k more than a cab? is this taxing those of us with taste?

No they just run out of the good shell later so with government shite the cost went up

[gareth]

hehe

You know, sub 1k for a shell makes it very very tempting Almost like building a kit car