right oh then,ill give that one a shot.on my private stretch of motorway of courseAndyboy wrote:0-100 is what separates Men from Boys. Any car that can beat 15 seconds to the Ton is very decent.
0-60 time in a 325i
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Northloop, I agree completely!northloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
I think you and I are definately on the same page on the whole subject!
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going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommendnorthloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
Sounds like fun to me!fuzzy wrote:going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommendnorthloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
Slow in fast out - no problem!
Either that or he owns a totally pointless unusable carcarpmart wrote:Sounds like fun to me!fuzzy wrote:going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommendnorthloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
Slow in fast out - no problem!
M3's and CSL's have more than that amount and they cope pretty well
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Sounds a bit quick to me, but I'm not going to rubbish it just yet :op Turbo-Brown has a point! With regards to the K&N filter though, at best I think performance will only be retained. They don't get such good write-ups on the E30's!
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Their bodywork is bean-tin thin though...I wouldn't fancy having a prang in one.
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Yeah, true. Plus it'll only do one 0-60 before blowing up. Oh god. At least you can do it twice in an E30, albeit slower.

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I've had 4 E30's all 325i, the fastest 2 were the older ones, 1986 and 1987, I presume as they had no cat converter. Next was the 1989 F plat saoon, next was the tourer whaich was slower top end as well.
Th fastest was an 1986 325i 4 door, I'm no mechanic so assume it was near standard, although it did have a hign pressure fuel regulator thingy bob.
I timed this myself and independantly at 7 seconds dead, and regularly 7.2's and 7.3's.
The touring was around 8.5, the 1989 f plater was around, 8 dead.
I think if you get a good early one low 7's is possible, but 6 seconds, no way!
I presently have an old 1987 E3o I use as a track car and that goes well, it's stripped out too, but it would never break 7 seconds.
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Th fastest was an 1986 325i 4 door, I'm no mechanic so assume it was near standard, although it did have a hign pressure fuel regulator thingy bob.
I timed this myself and independantly at 7 seconds dead, and regularly 7.2's and 7.3's.
The touring was around 8.5, the 1989 f plater was around, 8 dead.
I think if you get a good early one low 7's is possible, but 6 seconds, no way!
I presently have an old 1987 E3o I use as a track car and that goes well, it's stripped out too, but it would never break 7 seconds.
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the cars fine,its purely down to the over enthusiastic, excuse at the ready"it wasnt my fault it was the car.....etc etc",over hyped up heavy right footed drivernorthloop wrote:Either that or he owns a totally pointless unusable carcarpmart wrote:Sounds like fun to me!fuzzy wrote: going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommend
Slow in fast out - no problem!
M3's and CSL's have more than that amount and they cope pretty well
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all the different mags quote different times, PBMW say 8.3 yet the m3 with only 30 bhp more is quoted as 6.7,who knows for surePalazzo wrote:Autocar mag said 7.4 to 60 and a quarter in 15.6 if I remember correctly.
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I think with the sport gearing u always gonna struggle for good 0-60 time as u need that extra gearchange to third.
but a healthy light sport is pretty quick and deffo low 7 secs

best recorded time at santapod
BMW E30 325i sport
2.11
6.09
9.40
14.71
91.88mph
standard engine bar rare bbr chip and k/n panel filter scorpion exhaust 186bhp rolling road figure stripped interior weight at time of run was 1060kg with 1/3 tank of fuel
06/10/02 Santa pod
Duncan
later it looked like this but i never got the chance to rerun it up the quarter mile


and for launching u need rear suspension travel to encourage weight transfer
it used to launch superb 4k rpm held and sidestep clutch 
but a healthy light sport is pretty quick and deffo low 7 secs

best recorded time at santapod
BMW E30 325i sport
2.11
6.09
9.40
14.71
91.88mph
standard engine bar rare bbr chip and k/n panel filter scorpion exhaust 186bhp rolling road figure stripped interior weight at time of run was 1060kg with 1/3 tank of fuel
06/10/02 Santa pod
Duncan
later it looked like this but i never got the chance to rerun it up the quarter mile


and for launching u need rear suspension travel to encourage weight transfer
ohh just remembered
on the day was racing against three other guys in various cars but we were all equally matched on the day
2.o 16v nova
16v saxo highly modded circa 170bhp n/a + nos but he had run out :p
205 gti with mi16 engine conversion
we all ran sub 15's all day long but the beemer was fastest by .04 secs and the most consistent as the fwd boys either launched great or really bad
over all was a great day as it was so close
on the day was racing against three other guys in various cars but we were all equally matched on the day
2.o 16v nova
16v saxo highly modded circa 170bhp n/a + nos but he had run out :p
205 gti with mi16 engine conversion
we all ran sub 15's all day long but the beemer was fastest by .04 secs and the most consistent as the fwd boys either launched great or really bad
over all was a great day as it was so close
Quoted figures seem to vary - Autocar Figures from the time are as follows -
0-60 325i 2 door - 7.4
325i sport - 6.8
M3 - 7.1
0-100 325i 2 door 19.9
325i sport 18.8
M3 19.0
This doesn't seem to make sense, why would a sport be faster than 200 bhp M3?
If it was just 0-60 then it could be down to gears but 0-100 is a better marker and its faster there too?
0-60 325i 2 door - 7.4
325i sport - 6.8
M3 - 7.1
0-100 325i 2 door 19.9
325i sport 18.8
M3 19.0
This doesn't seem to make sense, why would a sport be faster than 200 bhp M3?
If it was just 0-60 then it could be down to gears but 0-100 is a better marker and its faster there too?
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More low-down torque most likely explains this.
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Hmm, wonder what a tweaked 325i with Sport close-ratio 'box and M3 4.1 diff accelerates like...? Should in theory be able to crack around the 6 second 0-60 time.
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Was the Sport tuned in anyway?Cyril wrote:Quoted figures seem to vary - Autocar Figures from the time are as follows -
0-60 325i 2 door - 7.4
325i sport - 6.8
M3 - 7.1
0-100 325i 2 door 19.9
325i sport 18.8
M3 19.0
This doesn't seem to make sense, why would a sport be faster than 200 bhp M3?
If it was just 0-60 then it could be down to gears but 0-100 is a better marker and its faster there too?
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Just a close-ratio 'box, M-tech suspension and LSD AFAIK.
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M3's don't come with those diffs I don't think.320iSE wrote:Hmm, wonder what a tweaked 325i with Sport close-ratio 'box and M3 4.1 diff accelerates like...? Should in theory be able to crack around the 6 second 0-60 time.
3.15 or 3.25 so useless for a sport.
Okay, so a Sport beat an E30 M3? How can that be? The M3 must have the same sort of set-up with the close ratio gearbox, suspension, traction control and LSD.
What I can't believe is how the M3 time was longer than the Sport. Doesn't seem to make sense, anyone able to clear this up for me?
Regards, BJ.
What I can't believe is how the M3 time was longer than the Sport. Doesn't seem to make sense, anyone able to clear this up for me?
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sports and M3s have different gear boxs/ratios which need totally different diff ratios
M3 1:1 5th
Sports 1:1 4th and an over drive 5th gear of 0.81
M3s are mostly 3.25
Pre-face lift Sports are 3.64
Post-face lift Sports are 3.91
M3 1:1 5th
Sports 1:1 4th and an over drive 5th gear of 0.81
M3s are mostly 3.25
Pre-face lift Sports are 3.64
Post-face lift Sports are 3.91
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is this thread STIIILLLLL running? god!
M3 LSD IS actually very useful in a 325 for 0-60 times - it means you can make 60 in 2nd gear (in fact, it'll do 67 with a standard box before you hit the rev limiter with the original chip in an early 325
M3 LSD IS actually very useful in a 325 for 0-60 times - it means you can make 60 in 2nd gear (in fact, it'll do 67 with a standard box before you hit the rev limiter with the original chip in an early 325
Oh yeah i never thought of it like that. Must save about 0.5 of a second from not changing gear.SCOTT325SE wrote:is this thread STIIILLLLL running? god!
M3 LSD IS actually very useful in a 325 for 0-60 times - it means you can make 60 in 2nd gear (in fact, it'll do 67 with a standard box before you hit the rev limiter with the original chip in an early 325
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its very small difference, but its quite handy in the twisties i tell you that for sure!!!!! west wales has its fun uses sometimes!
How did the Sport beat the M3 in the times? If the M3 has better LSD surely it'll be quicker than the Sport, no? I'm assuming it's the 2.3 M3 whitch has more bhp than the Sport? So how is the Sport quicker in those times?
Are M3 LSD's rare to get a hold of just out interest?
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Are M3 LSD's rare to get a hold of just out interest?
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I expect most E30 LSDs are probably kippered old lumps with slipping clutches by now anyway...
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