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Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:39 pm

macas wrote:How often were the intervals for an oil change on the milion mile e30?

As per factory recommended intervals i believe.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:29 pm

The_Diddler wrote:
macas wrote:How often were the intervals for an oil change on the milion mile e30?
As per factory recommended intervals i believe.

Which would be every 2 years or every XXXX miles

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:33 pm

Andyboy wrote:
pony wrote:So should the oil turn acidic would not that be bad for the engine ?
And why would it become acidic, given that acid is a byproduct of combustion, a process that's a bit unlikely in a car that is stored and unused?

Did you not consider that there may, just may be additives in engine oil to counteract it....?

I wasn't entirely sure on my acidic comment hence I put a question mark.
Pretty sure I read it somewhere

But then there is also no need to change brake fluid, tyres etc if used minimally while in and out of storage based on the "don't need oil change" argument. Agree though because mileage is minimal even if u don't change the oil wear and tear won't be as bad comparing to doing higher miles. But still better to change the oil which would minimise wear and tear further.

I still think a car that been serviced regularly with regular oil changes/ brake fluid/ coolant changes would be far more valuable than one sat in a lock up for years and years and that hasn't been serviced since 1992.

I also think BMW recommend oil change every 2 years without good reason if u want a vehicle in the most optimum of health rather than run on a shoe string

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:37 pm

pony wrote:
The_Diddler wrote:
macas wrote:How often were the intervals for an oil change on the milion mile e30?
As per factory recommended intervals i believe.
Which would be every 2 years or every XXXX miles

Which would have been quite often considering the thing never switched off apart from maintenance at the prescribed intervals, obviously mileage based.........

But that oil was well and truly been used, in fact it was been tested was it not.

How old is oil before it even hits the shelves, there's gonna be a big difference in 2 year old used oil than 2 year old un-used oil, sat in the sump of car that does 10 miles a year...........

How long doe's it sit on the shelve in your garage too............??

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:39 pm

What wear and tear do your propose happens to an engine if it's stored in a garage?

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:40 pm

See the answers in this post in why u should change the oil
Scroll down the answers

http://askville.amazon.com/car-oil-chan ... d=65327198

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:52 pm

Seems the mighty BMW are wrong and you need to get your oil changed every 6 months regardless of miles because some guy on Amazon says so. Better get that CS booked in quick pony

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:04 pm

ross_jsy wrote:Seems the mighty BMW are wrong and you need to get your oil changed every 6 months regardless of miles because some guy on Amazon says so. Better get that CS booked in quick pony

BMW recommend every 2 years bro which is the point I am making.
But alot of u seem to disagree as long as mileage is minimal or none ok to not change

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:07 pm

Yes, but the Amazon link you gave us which must be gospel recommends every 6 months

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:07 pm

Here u go condensation and some other reasons why u should change oil irrespective of mileage

http://www.simplyss.com/about/vehicle-storage/

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:09 pm

Not really a problem in a heated garage though

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:19 pm

Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

There are other links from Google search by other companies suggest oil change when in storage but I cannot be bothered to post. If u really want to know search yourself on Google

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:20 pm

Any mods reading, how do I change my username?

I don't want anymore association with this pony.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:24 pm

pony wrote:Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

Clearly needs a dehumidifier

But seriously, people who store cars for investment reasons don't leave them in damp cold garages with dehumidifiers sucking all the water out the world like yours.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:29 pm

pony wrote:Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

There are other links from Google search by other companies suggest oil change when in storage but I cannot be bothered to post. I will be in my nicely decorated bedroom, if needed.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:41 pm

pony wrote:Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

There are other links from Google search by other companies suggest oil change when in storage but I cannot be bothered to post. If u really want to know search yourself on Google

Hmm, oil companies perchance?

Oddly enough, there's a car in my workshop that's been stood unrun for 8 months. Even more oddly, the oil is still clear. The level hasn't risen via this raging torrent of moisture, and the cam lobes have resisted corrosion. Weird!

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:43 pm

Sounds like the m52 I stripped after 3 years of non use Andy, funny that

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:51 pm

Soni, your sad old tech 1 turd has not had an oil change for over two years, get the sorry crabbing turd up my passage and give me some money pronto ! I have some lovely expensive Castrol Edge with your name on it !

Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:21 pm

pony2 wrote:Any mods reading, how do I change my username?

I don't want anymore association with this pony.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:30 pm

Andyboy wrote:
pony wrote:Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

There are other links from Google search by other companies suggest oil change when in storage but I cannot be bothered to post. If u really want to know search yourself on Google

Hmm, oil companies perchance?

Oddly enough, there's a car in my workshop that's been stood unrun for 8 months. Even more oddly, the oil is still clear. The level hasn't risen via this raging torrent of moisture, and the cam lobes have resisted corrosion. Weird!

Hmmm I didn't know this otherwise I would not have suggested otherwise.
Maybe 8 months is not long enough maybe need several years. I was only going by what's been said in the BMW Service handbook and what has been mentioned on those websites I put a link too.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:31 pm

pacerpete wrote:Soni, your sad old tech 1 turd has not had an oil change for over two years, get the sorry crabbing turd up my passage and give me some money pronto ! I have some lovely expensive Castrol Edge with your name on it !

You are right needs an Inspection II

Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:35 pm

pony wrote:
Andyboy wrote:
pony wrote:Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

There are other links from Google search by other companies suggest oil change when in storage but I cannot be bothered to post. If u really want to know search yourself on Google

Hmm, oil companies perchance?

Oddly enough, there's a car in my workshop that's been stood unrun for 8 months. Even more oddly, the oil is still clear. The level hasn't risen via this raging torrent of moisture, and the cam lobes have resisted corrosion. Weird!
Hmmm I didn't know this otherwise I would not have suggested otherwise.
Maybe 8 months is not long enough maybe need several years. I was only going by what's been said in the BMW Service handbook and what has been mentioned on those websites I put a link too.

A few of us have real world experience, not smashing one out over service manuals and reading things on the internet

Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:36 pm

pony2 wrote:Any mods reading, how do I change my username?

I don't want anymore association with this pony.

LOL

Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:27 pm

pacerpete wrote:
pony wrote:
Andyboy wrote: Really? Over what period of time, exactly?
Use your brain and google it

Why else would BMW stipulate changing the oil every 2 years
Are u telling me u know more than BMWs engineers and millions spent in R&D about oil

Soni, you need to spend more time barebacking and less time ingesting BMWs corporate BS.

BMW are much more interested in the contents of your wallet that the condition of car they sold 20+ years ago.

I agree with Pete.

If you have free money to burn please service your car at my garage once a week so I can make sure there is no BS left over.

My garage address is:
Garage: need your money
Street: Waste my money street
County: Bulls****
Web: Rob you.com

Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:44 pm

Andyboy wrote:Even if stored, a car needs looking at every year - not a service, but a check over to prevent it deteriorating. It wants a good drive to get it up to temp and get everything hot and moving. Brake fluid needs changing ideally every couple of years, but if you use proper quality long life coolant, that can stay in for up to 5 years. The MOT test is an ideal time to do all this, but there's no point in changing the oil every 2 years if it's only done 20 miles between MOT's.

When my own personal car was stored I drained it of all fluids except engine oil. It's stored in a heated garage and before I decide to start or move it I will be changing/cleaning/greasing most moving parts to make sure car is perfect.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:51 pm

Fastroad wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
pony wrote: Use your brain and google it

Why else would BMW stipulate changing the oil every 2 years
Are u telling me u know more than BMWs engineers and millions spent in R&D about oil

Soni, you need to spend more time barebacking and less time ingesting BMWs corporate BS.

BMW are much more interested in the contents of your wallet that the condition of car they sold 20+ years ago.
I agree with Pete.

If you have free money to burn please service your car at my garage once a week so I can make sure there is no BS left over.

My garage address is:
Garage: need your money
Street: Waste my money street
County: Bulls****
Web: Rob you.com

Oil still degrades no matter what
Believe what ever u want u clearly got money to burn spending all them £££££ on a M3 SE

Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:21 pm

pony wrote:
Andyboy wrote:
pony wrote:Yes it will be because there is moisture within the engine
Just admit you are wrong ????

There are other links from Google search by other companies suggest oil change when in storage but I cannot be bothered to post. If u really want to know search yourself on Google

Hmm, oil companies perchance?

Oddly enough, there's a car in my workshop that's been stood unrun for 8 months. Even more oddly, the oil is still clear. The level hasn't risen via this raging torrent of moisture, and the cam lobes have resisted corrosion. Weird!
Hmmm I didn't know this otherwise I would not have suggested otherwise.
Maybe 8 months is not long enough maybe need several years. I was only going by what's been said in the BMW Service handbook and what has been mentioned on those websites I put a link too.

To be fair to you:

I won't leave oil in a car for more than 8000 miles no matter what. Running an engine on oil that's been in there since 1992 is a poor idea. Should you change oil every 2 years on a car in storage? I wouldn't. Would I change it every 2 years on a car used with minimal mileage? Possibly. Depends on what the oil was and how dirty it is. If it's still clean, probably not.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:24 pm

I've just had my 325 serviced and a new clutch, it's done less than 200 miles in a year but I feel better knowing the oil has been changed regularly.

The M3 gets 2 services a year regardless of mileage and the E46 has a service every year regardless of mileage.

I suspect it's very much overkill but it won't do it any harm.

Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:30 pm

pony wrote: Oil still degrades no matter what
Believe what ever u want u clearly got money to burn spending all them £££££ on a M3 SE

I will be sure to call up Castrol and tell them to put a two year expiry date on them with your name next to it.

Oh and by any chance have you still got that SE picture up in your room hoping that one day your 316i more door might turn into one???

A lick of paint, some red bumper tape and your on your way.... Ideas hey!!!!

Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:45 pm

Fastroad wrote:
pony wrote: Oil still degrades no matter what
Believe what ever u want u clearly got money to burn spending all them £££££ on a M3 SE
I will be sure to call up Castrol and tell them to put a two year expiry date on them with your name next to it.

Oh and by any chance have you still got that SE picture up in your room hoping that one day your 316i more door might turn into one???

A lick of paint, some red bumper tape and your on your way.... Ideas hey!!!!

good luck with the moor door pony se looks in a more door...

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:05 am

Spotted today .... Ps' project is on...... 316i More door

Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:31 am

Fastroad wrote:

Spotted today .... Ps' project is on...... 316i More door

OOOOOF! Luxorbeige FTW!

Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:34 am

With failed central locking.

Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:49 pm

^^That pampered looking turd getting serviced every 2 years irrespective of mileage (as stipulated by BMW), thus making the most of the millions that BMW invest in their R&D departments, is as sinful as its horrid looks...

Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:52 pm

Haterz ! Quattroportes are just as worthy as M3s, just the market has not discovered them yet, much