RUST Help !!!!

[johnl320]

Hello, i can cut those sections from a vehical i have, cost of postage or collect, 07854 930129. Thanks

Now theres an offer, respest to ucpsale for his generous offer. IMO sections cut from a doner car is the way ahead. good luck

john

[maggspower]

with your car being a chromie its at least 20 years old now, with a car like this from time to time you may have to spend a little money on getting it repaired! it the price we have to pay to be a little different to the rest of the euro turd box driving population.

This realy is only a minor repair, and if the car is as good as you say it is its definatly worth getting done. Get on the phone and have the repair section off upscale and get it in there

I also recon £100 is about right, i would come and do it for you but im over the other side of the country, i'm sure someone will be along who can help, then get yourself some paint in a rattle can from the dealers and some primer job done

dont scrap a chromie!!!!

[kuntz_de]

Mate, try and refrain yourself from rude comments such as "what planet are you on". If you think I'm wrong feel free to tell me but politely please! Whats with people's lack of respect and common decency?!

Have a look at my "pimp my tech1" thread in the photo gallery. The pictures only show about 2 thirds of the welding work carried out and that came to a grand total of about £500. I can only pass comment about things from MY experience and from MY experience what I have said is the truth.

Also I meant £100 for welding work, obviously painting is extra.

I had both rear arches replaced and painted a couple of years ago and that came to £600 -vat.

Fair enough though £100 is maybe cheaper than what most people would pay for this to be fixed by a random bodyshop.

it wasnt rude, i just asked you a sarcastic question to what i see as an inaccurate peice of information.

having a look back at some of you previous post, you were scared off with a estimate for £6000 for re paint. that is a high price, but i have seen some very expensive re paints ( inclusing some repair works to pannels) and the money can be justified.

going back to your pimped tech 1, was that patch work carried out by a friend ?? i looks like it was done by an amature and the price reflects that.

what i have stated is that for £100, no body shop would even entertain this work, even if its just the welding you want done, its not worth it for them. a few holes welded up is easy to do, a sill here and there etc but sorting out bull shit mess and rust like that with out is not worth it at all. it takes up time and work shop space

if how ever you have a friend who could do it for £100, fair enough, but but there is simply more than £100 worth of work ther. £50 might cover all your materials ( welding primers, primer paints, filler, wet and dry sheets masking tape etc they all add up) by the time you are done if you go DIY.

so the best price you will get away with it costing you as DIY and "mates rates", welded and painted is maybe £200, and some thing which will probably be visable and re surface, this doent factor in your time, which i always account for. my time is valuable to me

i belive i have given a true indiacation of what the work will cost, and stated what is actaully involved.
for the record, i state again whats needed

1 - fully strip down the area
2 - fully cut away any rust
3 a - either have section cut from an other car to fit and butt up to your car and tack it on first to line up correctly
3 b - cut and fabricate metal and shape it to match the original
4 - weld it up properly
5 - grind back the welds and have the exposed area as flat as possible
6 - filler or lead up the joins
7 - shape the area
8 - primer and prep fpr paint
9 - paint
10 - have a finished job which no one will notice

3 days in body shop, at least 8 work at £35 an hour plus paints and material etc it will wieght in at £330 or ther abouts.

this is asuming that there is not much more than what can be seen in the pictures

[oakey]

^I wasnt talking about a immaculate repair! The bloke was talking about fibreglassing it for feks sake!
Typical bodyshop man.

Mate, sarcasm IS rude!

£330 to repair that

Ps. Why would you say the work on my car is amature? because you can see where it has been welded?

Have you got any pics of you own work?

[oakey]

Whats badly done about this?

[Jesus325iTouring]

I can see finger marks to the left of the weld,tut tut Oakey!

[kuntz_de]

^I wasnt talking about a immaculate repair! The bloke was talking about fibreglassing it for feks sake!
Typical bodyshop man.

Mate, sarcasm IS rude!

£330 to repair that

Ps. Why would you say the work on my car is amature? because you can see where it has been welded?

Have you got any pics of you own work?

the work just looks amature, i'd like to see the welding before is was covered in thick layers of primer and paint. facilities have nothing to do with the quality of work produced. its like all the BS you hear, that you need an oven to paint in, i have seen some very very good paint jobs be done with oout the use of an oven. its to do with the skills, prep, desire and passion to do a good job.

£330 or there abouts to do a job to a decent standard, so if YOU like to have your car patched up, thats fine, i like all my cars to be repaired to a good standards, customers cars aswell

as for my own work, well i'm not on here to trade and show of my work. i have no need to. as you can see my comments are few on this forum, i post where i feel i need to

on final note, sarcasm is sarcasm. if you find that offensive well i appologise, but you'll know when i am being rude.

[jaffro]

[quote="oakey"]

Whats badly done about this?[/quote
i wish i could make mine look half this good i wouldnt no where to start with welding. i think it looks fine.

[cypriot_boy_2k7]

whos dis guy like , blad clat loool

[ian332isport]

whos dis guy like , blad clat loool

ENGLISH fool

[bmwsport]

Whats badly done about this?

Absolutely nothing, it doesn't have to be pristine down here anyway as its hidden by the Tech I rear bumper. As long as its solid (and it looks like it is) it really don't matter what it looks like does it?

'Kunt-eyes', why don't you get some pics up of your own bodywork skills before criticising others

[jibowski]

i can hacksaw and grind out that area from a 316i i'm stripping now if you want, i'll want a bit of dough as it'll eat a cutting disc or two, i can stick it in a box and mail it to you

[cypriot_boy_2k7]

whos dis guy like , blad clat loool

ENGLISH fool

sorry, its just somting i get happy loool for being out in the dfrekin cold all day to achive a sunroof that just sits lol

back on the subject!

i thinks its work fixing if the cars solid, just check to be sure mate

[tomtomtom]

i've got a grey iS in stoke your welcome to come and chop bits off, only bought it for the diff. that looks like a b@stard mate good luck with it.

[kuntz_de]

Whats badly done about this?

Absolutely nothing, it doesn't have to be pristine down here anyway as its hidden by the Tech I rear bumper. As long as its solid (and it looks like it is) it really don't matter what it looks like does it?

'Kunt-eyes', why don't you get some pics up of your own bodywork skills before criticising others

you can clearly the wleds for one ( and they dont look too clever, as i said before i'd like to see it before it was covered in primer and filler), it should have been ground down and smotther off, the fact that you say its covered , well in your words hidden by a rear valance dosnt inspire confidence in the quality of work you might have done on your own car.

also, you trying to humour your self from my name ?? pitty on you if some thing like that amuses you.

[cypriot_boy_2k7]

also, you trying to humour your self from my name ?? pitty on you if some thing like that amuses you.

i sense a bit of friction what should stop as its not a place for the zone, and bmwsport has a point why don't you show us what "skills" you've got mate. is it me or do some people on here talk like people who were banned???

[kuntz_de]

sorry didnt understand that ? made no sence to me at all.

ar regards to my skills, i'm not on here to show what i do, just contribuit in feild i have an understanding of, however if my point of view and contribution is not liked i wont bother

[cypriot_boy_2k7]

no everyone has an opinion, its just it seems you were puting people down about there work, get me. oakeysworks not bad better than what most people can do which is good,

[kuntz_de]

well, i gave my input for what it would cost to do the job right, but no every one wants to "patch it up" with fiberglass. thats shocked me.

whats the issue if i think job should be done right ??

i just commented on what i can see, and what i would have done. but some one doesnt like my point of view.

in your opinion what would you want done, spend a minimum of £150 for a patch up job, or £350 for a good job which no one will notice ?
and i can assure you, there is more rust in that area then what is visbale in the photos.

[maxfield]

There is easily more than £100's worth of welding there... it's and akward place to be, at College £100's worth of welding is definitely not enough to cover that!

A bodge job will come back to haunt you.

Just pay the price and get it done properly!

[bmwsport]

Did i say anything about my car? Are we talking about my car? No...

As i said before, as long as the repair is SOLID (i.e - a good strong repair - NOT BODGED) it doesn't really matter if it doesn't look 100% factory in certain places - especially those that you cannot see.

We are talking about old cars worth a few hundred or thousand quid here, so please convince me why you think in this case it is a good idea to spend more money than what the car is worth to repair that section of rot around the boot? The guy was on about scrapping it a day or so ago FFS!

Granted immaculate hugely expensive professional bodywork jobs have got to be carried out on low mileage Sport's, Alpina's, Hartge's, M3's etc - i would do the same, but there is really no point in spending huge amounts of money on high mileage or un-desirable turds unless it is something really special or collectable.

[kuntz_de]

did i say he should spend the money ??
did i say he should fix it ??

i just stated waht it would really cost, and every one seems to be throwing their toys out the pram

granted that desireable e30 like M3's alpinas etc should be saved if possible, and anythinng is possible. and on this note, oakey seems like he wants to keep his car as long termer, why not do a job right ? the fact the rear valave is covered by the tech 1 kit is no excuse for what looks messy behind it. ij a jobs done right and photgraphed , it will only add to the cars value. you will not recoup all the money spent, but its being done for love and the fact you know you have done a job right.

[tomtomtom]

kin ell some people on here should have born with a fanny

[ian332isport]

Can we please stop the bickering

I'm carefully polishing my bestest padlock, and it's going to fit nicely on the bottom of this thread if we don't get back on topic.

Ian.

[oakey]

The bloke that did the welding on my car is not a 'mate'. He is professional- done it most of his life (restores old VWs) and he's not young. I wanted the car to be AS SOLID AS POSSIBLE and to last as long as possible. I said I wasnt fussed about how it looks as its all hidden. Im sure if the welded areas has been smoothed back, fillered and painted it would be virtually unnoticeable. He has made no attempt to disguise the welding as that was what he was asked to do.
I dont care about the value of my car as I dont plan on selling it.
Yes I asked for a cheap job as if I went to someone like you (kuntz) it would have cost me £1000+ with no guarantee it wont rot again soon.
As I said all along- I never said £100 for a great job that will be unnoticeable did I?

Anyway tommyvod1. Good luck with your car and I hope you get it sorted soon.

[tommyvod1]

wow thanks for all the imput everyone,but hey didnt mean to get any backs up.
I dont think i'll be asking anymore welding questions again Any ways again thanks for all the ideas,and lets call this thread

Tom.

[Brianmoooore]

wow thanks for all the imput everyone,but hey didnt mean to get any backs up.
I dont think i'll be asking anymore welding questions again Any ways again thanks for all the ideas,and lets call this thread

Tom.

Feel free to ask any welding questions you like! If anyone starts getting excessively out of hand, then they will be dealt with.
Be assured, this thread has been closely watched by the mods!

[kuntz_de]

oakey, you had some holes patched up, hardly the most difficult of jobs, but for £500 which ia a reasonalble price i would be happy, but i wouldnt want to see the welds. you say you have no intention of selling the car, but either way be it selloing the car, or keeping it i'd want a job done thats no noticable. if you are selling it then i can understand not doing the best of jobs,but as along term keeper i'd want it A1.

just my thoughts again

anyway i think its time i left this subject alone, and moderators/team members i dont think there is any need to lock it up. its just different schools of thought and observations, but here's an observastion for you, 2 personal unproveked "digs" at me for my user name is a bit below the belt. i thought this would have stopped when i left school 15 years ago.

[hammoj28]

Id say theres nothing wrong with what Oakey has done to mend his car. If its hidden under a kit or something then as long as its a good strong weld, all rust has been rid of and its well protected against the elements then who gives a dam.lol I certainly dont. As long as the bits people see are neat and tidy then id be happy. especially if it saved me that amount of money.

[Z3I]

All just goes to show theres 2 types of E30 enthusiasts here.

Like me, theres some who likes our cars rust free, and always uses the best parts and materials we can find, and are prepared to pay for them.

Others keeps there cars on the road the best they can, keeping the budget as low as possible, but not necessarily unsafe.

Without both types, cars would dissapear, parts would dry up and we'd be both worse off.

nice that the zone has space for all of us...

[oakey]

I hardly "skimp" out on my car do I But I dont see the point in spending money or doing extra work that I would get no benefit from. Such as the metalwork behind the bootliner etc etc

[hammoj28]

Nor me! I spend all my money on my car.lol. But i don't see the point in spending extra money on cosmetics that you cant see. Why not save a bit of money (that will get spent on other places of the car) and have the repair done just as strong and rust resistant. But its horses for courses i suppose.

[Pad]

tommy, whereabouts in South east are you? I may be able to help in the new year for the sort of money oakey was on about (the right money, IMO). Wont be the prettiest but it will do...

Pad

[tommyvod1]

im in sevenoaks, tunbridge wells area a little help would be great mainly with the spot welding,though i am still trying to source a donor part at the mo.

[bmwe30mtech]

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