BMW 325i E30 vs Porsche 911 3,2 (old school)

[Eddie25]

Love the 911. But for me its got to be a really early one around the 60s with chrome in all the right places. Like this..................

http://www.classicautosport.net/images/9110726side.jpg

[ste]

I would take the 911 too though it would have to be a right hooker.

Why's that? The LHD cars are considered to be much better.

[Tom-Tom]

Thanks!

That's my working day effectively finished!

There's some serious 911 porn for me in there, might not be to everyone's taste though.

Yeah, it depends if you like the classic racer look, or something more extreme, like these ones. I think the wider arches help balance the car more, considering it's got a massive rear overhang, which is the one thing that might put me off 911's, if I was being really fussy.

But yeah, that website.....

[Ziggy]

[321gazza]

yea must say i only live to own a 911 some day , would sell my sole to the devil to own my dream porsche, one day i shall have no sole but a porsche, and drive in hell it will be

[JONUK]

Would love a 911, early 90's Carrera 4 in silver

[e30bmlover]

a 325 over a porsche?? dont get me wrong im e30 to the core but they are a different type of animal!!!
what an ass....... :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[Andyboy]

I'm not a fan of water cooled 911's - they don't do it at all for me. They also had a lot of major engine issues (tops of the liners breaking off and incurable crank rear oil seal leaks), plus rust around the door catches and iffy trim. But once they sorted them out they're okay but they just look too fat arsed and there are so many of them about now. As for Poxters, well...............
But the air cooled ones are great - my Dad has a Carrera 4 but I like them much older than that - about 10 years ago I had ANW104C for a week, the very first RHD 911 sold in the UK which was sold new by AFN. Short wheelbase, 130 bhp on Solexes, dog leg five speed and very scary. But it made a lovely noise.
What I really wanted around 2001-2002 was a 1974 G Series 2.7 Carrera which is the 1973 RS in the 1974 impact bumper shell. I looked at two complete shitheaps and decided on a really nice 3.2 Carrera, around a 1986-89 with the G50 box. So I arrived at Autofarm in jeans and T shirt to look at a Guards red car with 28'000 miles and was treated like shit. They're a pack of weirdos anyway.


So I bought a black Sport Evo off Pacerpete.

But a 3.2 Carrera versus an old 325i? You're kidding....right? A 911 makes a 325i feel like a very ordinary car, same with the 944 which is really a well made Capri albeit with very good handling and extremely solid build.

[Andyboy]

I would take the 911 too though it would have to be a right hooker. what would be interesting would be a price comparison between a c2 2.7 and a base 911 for say 1988 I bet they were closer than you might think in price and performance.

C2 and C4's are both 3.6 litre, be it a 964 or a 993. 2.7's were the RS and Carerra 2.7 (210 bhp with mechanical injection) or the base 150 bhp 74/5 cars plus the 175 bhp 911S (74-6) and 165 bhp 911 Lux. All these were soft tuned on K Jet. The 175 bhp 911S was a really lively car, 185/70 15 tyres.....

[bloom_meister]

a 325 over a porsche?? dont get me wrong im e30 to the core but they are a different type of animal!!!
what an ass....... :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

Great car, hideous rear plate/bumper, thats the american one right?

Tim

[bloom_meister]

ps

Undervalued classic Porsche for e30 M3 money is the rare 924 Carrera GT Turbo



Tim

[E30BeemerLad]

A nice mid 80's carrera would do it nicely for me, or a targa

A friend of mine bought an F reg 911 Turbo Sport convertible in about 1993, it had about 40K on the clock and was an absolute missile but so much old money class with it, maybe with a bit of 80's canary wharf & red braces too

But fcuk yeah!

[bloom_meister]

I would take the 911 too though it would have to be a right hooker. what would be interesting would be a price comparison between a c2 2.7 and a base 911 for say 1988 I bet they were closer than you might think in price and performance.

C2 and C4's are both 3.6 litre, be it a 964 or a 993. 2.7's were the RS and Carerra 2.7 (210 bhp with mechanical injection) or the base 150 bhp 74/5 cars plus the 175 bhp 911S (74-6) and 165 bhp 911 Lux. All these were soft tuned on K Jet. The 175 bhp 911S was a really lively car, 185/70 15 tyres.....

Andy, I think pnd meant a comparison between an Alpina C2 2.7 and an early 911 (any flavour).

Tim

[E30BeemerLad]

anyone ever look at this site?


www.911virgin.com

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[bodger]

dont think anyones mentioned a 959 yet

[Blitz]

http://www.911virgin.com/towyardcomplaint.mp3

[slippo]

STE is that your own car the porsche 964 model? if so where did the wide archs come from? i have the same car, but wana put some turbo archs on it, but a little advice from someone who has attempted it befor would be handy

[ste]

It's a standard 964 Carrera 2 shell, no wide arches on it dude.

[murran]

gt2s are the ultimate 911
nothing really to do with e30s but heres a vid of the euro enduro my boss went on in 2006
thats him in the gt2..........
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9193599333

ive been in the passengers seat round croft and its f**kin fast.

[Tom944]

On the track de 944 Turbo beats the 911 of it's own time. I don't know yet which car I would choose between the e30, 944 or 911 actually

[Morat]

959 is a weird looking thing in the flesh. Extremely cool all the same.

[Jesus325iTouring]

I'm with AndyBoy on this,give me an early '70's 911,mmmmmmm

Clicky linky for pure raw sexyness....

http://www.idee.demon.nl/911_22/911_22.htm

[Andyboy]

The 924 Carrera GT was a real weapon, and aren't worth as much as they should be - the 924 badge kills it. But Derek Bell preferred both this and the 928S to the 911 - and he was a Porsche works driver and also a driving God. Also a really nice guy to chat to, he'll talk to anyone.

[Ziggy]

928 - now you're talking...

[oguz327]

928 - now you're talking...

Hasnt stevetigger got one of those

[Simon325i]

Gotta be a late 80's 911, flared arches and the big spoiler - childhood dream thats lived with me eversince.

[markw]

My vote goes to an RS/RSR Replica based on a late '80s model (with G50 'box). Plenty of people doing these recently, but here's an example:
http://www.myrsr.com/
'70s LeMans refugee thats useable for the commute

[mrcoupe]

I love 911's

[bloom_meister]

Best combination of looks, power, rarity, investment etc etc etc would have to be a 993 Turbo S cab, they only made a few and the value of 993 turbos in general is rocketing up, nice ones fetch way more than a 996 turbo, I've seen em as high as mid £80k
Had a Cayman (basic model) for a day while mine was in the workshop and i have to say, somewhat grudgingly, that its the best handling car I have ever driven..bar none.

Thing is, to get back on topic a bit, a good fast e30 (Sport/M3/Alpina/Hartge) will give you the thrills in a nice sensible controlled way (on the road). Its very hard to get any kind of thrills other than straightline from a modern performance car on the road.

As a fan of Porsche I'd reccomend anyone wanting to get onto a 911 to get an early 996 or a late 993, anything else is either too expensive to buy or too expensive to maintain.

One last thing about the 959, this car posts almost identical performance 0-60, 0-100, in gear times etc etc to the CURRENT 997 turbo...go look how old that thing is, I've driven the 997 turbo and its the fastest accelerating car I've ever been in, god knows what the 959 felt like 2 decades ago.

To put into perspective just how good the 959 was..

959
Type
Flat 6, twin turbo

Capacity (cc)
2849

Power (bhp)
450@6500 rpm

Torque (lb/ft)
370@5500 rpm

0-62 mph seconds
3.7

Top speed mph
197

QTR mile 11.7 at 124mph


ENZO
Type
V12

Capacity (cc)
5998

Power (bhp)
660@7800 rpm

Torque (lb/ft)
485@5500 rpm

0-62 mph seconds
3.65

Top speed mph
217

QTR mile 11.0 @130mph

Tim

[bmwbreaker]

I dont really get this comparison. One can be had for £3k the other no less than £8k???

How do you compare these two cars when they were originally sold to two entirely different markets one a family car the other a performance car and at different price segments?

I think a better comparison would have been E30 or Audi 80 lol

It would be 911 if I was pushed for an answer mind...

[jdt-e30-325ise-m20]

325i. I can only afford 1 car and whilst i LOVE old 911's, it is of minimal use to me.

Depends wat you put under the bonet of your
92 e30 325i se, so far av got 240 to 260 bhp need to have it speed checkd to be sure but its FAF,done crail1/4 mile in 12secs its as close to a 911 as i can afford to get to one lol (so far) :mad:till i add a turbo.£500 buks for turbo,manifold intercooler an fittings lol just a wee bit outa reach the now

[DRIFTBOY]

325 with 240-260bhp? !!!

12 second 1/4 mile ? !!!

What's been done to that then?

[murran]

325 with 240-260bhp? !!!

12 second 1/4 mile ? !!!

What's been done to that then?

bet its got an air cooled flat six in it!!! thats why were having this silly comparison! like comparing concord and hot air baloons in my opinion.

[mick_318is]

My Old Porker !!

Used to put a smile on my face evertime I drove it.



I used to live in germany where I could drive this properly down into Italy and Switzerland.

One of the best motoring days I had was driving this through 5 different countries in one day stopping for something to eat and a beer in each one.
I wouldn't have one over here though as I would loose my licence in several days. 3rd Gear was awesome

[Rosc0PColtrane]