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cancel that question as ive just fully read oze30's postfuzzy wrote:yes it does make sense but how would the unsprung mass of the wheel and brakes adversly effect the handling. as long as both sides are the same then its all balanced?maxfield wrote:Sprung mass is everything that's supported by the suspension. Unsprung mass is everything connected to the suspension rather than supported by it, I.E brakes wheels etc. That make sense?
My pics. I should charge for reproduction. Even if they were n00b pics when I took them!gazza325cab wrote:Thanks Gents.
Indeed they look class.
Even pete isnt sick enough to put car parts on his sofa!It takes more energy to stop or change direction on a heavier rotational force.fuzzy wrote:yes it does make sense but how would the unsprung mass of the wheel and brakes adversly effect the handling. as long as both sides are the same then its all balanced?maxfield wrote:Sprung mass is everything that's supported by the suspension. Unsprung mass is everything connected to the suspension rather than supported by it, I.E brakes wheels etc. That make sense?
Erm.. What's a gyro scope got to do with anything? Yes, both are rotating same direction and ultimately the same speed, so the gyroscopic effect is negligable.Plus, they are connected by a tie rod to each other, so the chances of both sides pointing in different directions is negligable unless you have some major probs with your steering! Remember, we're talking about unsprung mass. The more weight you have the slower the wheel is to respond.Demlotcrew wrote:Gyroscope anyone?
True to an extent, but the ackerman has no effect in a straight line.harry_p wrote:ever heard of ackerman angle?
geometry built into the front suspension so the front wheels turn different amounts for a certain amount of lock. obviously the inside wheel has to be turned more as it has to go around a tighter curve than the outside one, therefore you're upseting the 'balanced gyroscope' every time a wheel goes over a bump, or turns even a fraction.
one of the main reasons why cars with heavy wheels and low profile tyres tend to tramline like a bastard and have all sorts of steering feel wierdness going on.
that asside, i quite like the look of the rondels, and was considering getting a set of the 17in versions for my m3. then i realised what a tit i was being and bought some style 5s instead. i can't believe anyone would change from style 5s to rondels
gazza325cab wrote:How rude considering the poverty spec, flintstone vehicle at the podpacerpete wrote:They will match your tail lights if nothing else !
)I bet someone, somewhere has tried this; Shaken the bottle up & down, & then tried to pour the milk into their hand to shake it up & down without the bottle! Sorry, just amused me...oze30 wrote: Hold a 2 litre bottle of milk in your hand and try to shake it up and down as fast as you can. Now try it without the bottle. Which one can you do faster?
I bet someone's manage to infer self-abuse to a passer-by during the second stage of the test.Ziggy wrote:I bet someone, somewhere has tried this; Shaken the bottle up & down, & then tried to pour the milk into their hand to shake it up & down without the bottle! Sorry, just amused me...oze30 wrote: Hold a 2 litre bottle of milk in your hand and try to shake it up and down as fast as you can. Now try it without the bottle. Which one can you do faster?
