Looking for someone to polish or diamond cut my alloys

[carlos_320i]

You are welcome, as is virtually anyone, So don't take it as a personal attack.

As you say mate virtually anyone

And as a personal attack This is what I do for a living how am I not suposed to take it personal

[ed325i]

Carlos where are you based ? I have got a set of MiMs and ac schnitzer wheels that need doing.

[carlos_320i]

I am in kent

[camshaft]

Wow, I've just seen this thread. Ok to put matters straight, and Carlos, please don't say, that I haven't told you this, or I'll just post up the emails we have exchanged regarding this.

Problems I've had with my wheels

1. 4 months to complete
2. Had to send my own courier to collect incurring £140 charge - can produce reciept. Courier had to wait 2 hours while wheels came out of oven, despite having been told by you that they were ready at least 2 times previously. Wheels were still warm when courier dropped them back to me in west London.
3. Centre caps didn't match the spoke colour - can be seen in the pics you posted.
4. White bubbles on spokes
5. Red overspray on edge of wheels, so when tyres went on a red edge could be seen.
6. White edge on centre caps - can be seen in the pics you posted
7. Silver nut in centre had rough surface, sprayed straight over whatever crap was there previously, insted of sanding down
8. Dirt visible in spoke paint
9. Cloudy effect on parts of the diamond cut lip. This is still visible now, & I'm unsure how to get it off.
10. No Chrome valves we had agreed on.

Yes you reduced the price from £270 to £190, due to the mucking around, but in total these wheels have cost me £330, and I have had to pay for them to be done again. Oh, and the original courier fee to send them down to you.

Now in connection to the green colour, the paint code you were given is a standard BMW colour Imola Red 405. You spoke to Dips, and I have confirmed this for you with 2 BMW dealers. Yet your guys still managed to paint it green, yet there is not a single spot of green overspray anywhere on the rim. Please don't tell me that colours are different between plastics & metal, coz my car is all the same colour including the wheels now, which were done from a separate batch of paint to that used on the car.

Plus point, you did manage to take out the dent in one of the rims.

Bottom line, and I have said this to you in email, which you have choosen to ignore - I feel ripped off by you ! I have not come back to you, since I did not want to incur more courier costs, or run the risk of missing Gaydon, or take the chance that you would mess them up again, so I gave them to Dips to do.

Mods - I don't want to get into a slanging match here, but if Carlos wants to repond to this let him, other than that this will be my only post on the subject. Carlos if you feel a refund is in order, you can send payment to cdpraser@aol.com via paypal.

[dark_sounds]

considering youve done this for 6 years, ill let off a mistake or two, but theres quite a few one cams list. your lucky cams a diplomatic guy giving you the option of a refund "carlos if you feel a refund is in order....." i personally would have demanded much more of a discount/refund or passed one the costs of the courior to you at least! whatever not my battle, but iv seen the progress on this from the start to finish, and i felt conned even though there not my rims!

as far as wheel refurbers are conserned, iirc stuart gallafant used lepsons on his azev A's and the job on them where very good, and fairly priced as well!

[tonybtonyb]

Well i'm well Confused now!|Thanks for everybody's input i did't know this was such a hot subject.I'll have to have a think now.

[Kos]

carlos, you say that we are taking food away from you family by mking these comments, how about poor cam, who got dicked about and got charge OTT for what i call a crap job , he's £300 out of pocket.

imola red is imola red, no matter how you mix it it sould come out the same, a slight vairiation maybe ( depending on which paint maufacturer its from eg ICI octorail but still they are all very very similar) but you got it majorly wrong , its was plum red against a blood red

all the points cam made i notice in less than 2 minutes, it was shocking. i speak as i find

spit an polish have done wheels for me in the past and never had a problem with them, and it was £35 quid a wheel and 3 day turn around.

deal with it mate, you fucked up

[TheTruth]

Just a unbias comment on this matter. From reading the comments posted it seems Carlos may have made a mistake and may have not done his best to ammend things. Unfortunatley the mistake was for a customer who happens to know Dips and the Custom Cars entourage, whom obviously take pride in their work and expect the same as a paying customer. However I do think calling the mans work shite is a bit harsh especially when those making the claim are not as perfect as they make out. I was at Gaydon and walked past the Custom Cars creations and they were far from perfect in terms of paint runs, overspray etc and to be honest the finish does not look as if it had been painted in a proper booth. (either that or the materials used are very cheap -octorail as Kos quotes).
This aint personal just a view from someone sitting on the wall. (don't know either of them).

[camshaft]

Unfortunatley the mistake was for a customer who happens to know Dips and the Custom Cars entourage, whom obviously take pride in their work and expect the same as a paying customer.

I don't see anything wrong in taking pride in your work. There are far too many people out there who just rush through things, and then expect customers to pay up for a shitty job. Besides why shouldn't a paying customer expect a quality job even if they don't know the right people.

I was at Gaydon and walked past the Custom Cars creations and they were far from perfect in terms of paint runs, overspray etc

If you were at Gaydon as you say, then maybe you can point out where on my car you have seen paint runs & overspray.


You are obviously one of Carlos' mates.

[Kos]

Just a unbias comment on this matter. From reading the comments posted it seems Carlos may have made a mistake and may have not done his best to ammend things. Unfortunatley the mistake was for a customer who happens to know Dips and the Custom Cars entourage, whom obviously take pride in their work and expect the same as a paying customer. However I do think calling the mans work shite is a bit harsh especially when those making the claim are not as perfect as they make out. I was at Gaydon and walked past the Custom Cars creations and they were far from perfect in terms of paint runs, overspray etc and to be honest the finish does not look as if it had been painted in a proper booth. (either that or the materials used are very cheap -octorail as Kos quotes).
This aint personal just a view from someone sitting on the wall. (don't know either of them).

octorail is not cheap but not dear either, its middle of the park to above averidge to be honest. but i mentioned ICI as well, what your take on their paint ??

i was there at gaydon with customcars, you should have intorduced you self. which cars didnt take you fancy then ??

[TheTruth]

I did start by saying this was a unbias view, I do not know either party. You are right camshaft as a paying customer you should expect a quality job. I just didn't agree with one party saying the others work is shite after one experience. I have had work from both Lepsons and Spit and Polish whom have made mistakes however I did give them the chance to ammend the mistake before putting them down. They did so and I have therefore recomended them.

At Gaydon on close inspection of a blue cabriolet featured in Performance BMW I noticed runs and also flatting marks. Infact you can also notice the misalign of the kit in the feature pictures, Now I don't know the owner and no disrespect to him but in my opinioon this vehicle has been accident repaired (and not very well) Am i right or wrong lads has this vehicle been involved in an accident.

Just to clarify ICI is a very good paint but octorail however is a lower quality product in comparison to what else is available on the market.

I also made a point about these cars not being painted in a booth from looking at their finish. Again lads answer the question am I right or wrong. Please stick to the question and lets not get all upset as I can tell from other posts some people like to fight on behalf of Custom Cars when they don't know s**t but how to kiss ass!!

[dips346]

first off who do you have beef with? me,cam or kos
the car did have a accident last week and went to a insurance company to get painted which was the rear half
yes the side skirt are missing clips and the front keeps hitting speed humps but all was done last minute for the shoot ,which all the work is finished now and looks mint either way think what you want as it does not concern other people what state the cars are in, as most are left on the road or used and abused
none of them are show cars which get used once a month and pampered

and at no point did i say someone elses work was shite
the cab was done in a spray booth by a thrid party second time due to getting hit by another car

[bigun]

come on fella's lets stop this banter with all due respect to everybody involved i do not think kos should just pipe up an say anybodys work is shite when its there bread and butter i bet we could all pick faults with anybodys work because NOBODY is perfect carlos if it is your bread and butter i dont believe you would send a set of wheels out in the state people say they were in and you should have offered to re-do the wheels or have met the guy half way with some coin

mods lock it before anymore toys get thrown all over the place MWAH

[dark_sounds]

The Truth, youve come on here as a wind up merchant, your name says it all. how about being a man and letting everyone know who you really are. hiding behind the computer screen, before you say im doing the same,,, check out mugshots gallery, so you know who to stay away from at the shows (assuming you actually attended)

runs/overspray etc?? now you either wear very dirty glasses, or your just ruining another mans business that doesnt concern you. anyone who saw it did not see any runs or overspray on cams car.

youve come on here posted the few posts you have, all aimed at custom cars, and belittleing them. and it seems youve already made a mate, bigun's so stupid he cants see what the truth is trying to do.

on top of all of that, cams not the kind of person who if he saw a poor job, would just accept it. if he wernt happy he would have told dips and dips no doubt would have sorted it. as cam says,, care to share were the overspray and runs are??

with respect to your last post,,, i post not to "kiss ass" but i post cos i dont like your kind. little boys acting hard behind the computer stirring crap up in the hope some other dumb shits will actually take into account what your saying...

as i said, plesae check the mugshots gallery mate... and dont say hello to me

[Kos]

come on fella's lets stop this banter with all due respect to everybody involved i do not think kos should just pipe up an say anybodys work is shite when its there bread and butter i:

its not his bread and butter, from what i hear its a side line for carlos to make some drink money

[Kos]

I can tell from other posts some people like to fight on behalf of Custom Cars when they don't know s**t but how to kiss ass!!

making friends so soon, how nice !!

[d6dph]

check out mugshots gallery, so you know who to stay away from at the shows (assuming you actually attended)

as i said, plesae check the mugshots gallery mate... and dont say hello to me

Ali, Leave the personal threats out please. No need for that imo.

[dark_sounds]

not being funn dave but this guys being a prick , i dont come on the zone as much anymore cos of the pricks on here, and this just furthers my point. some guy who thinks hes hard by hiding behind a fake id and trying to disprespect dips, even though most of the beef is with kos. he says that hes doing this because of what kos said about the wheels, so hes come on to ruin custom cars, which Kos IS NOT A PART OF. he has no purpose on here.

dave, i also genuinly dont want to meet this guy.

"hi mate, im the truth from the forum"

my reposnse?? what am i meant to say? "hi your that prick whos stirring it up?" if anything its avoiding the conflict

[shane325i]

Can this get locked now?The zone is better than this and its just getting personal

[Kos]

check out mugshots gallery, so you know who to stay away from at the shows (assuming you actually attended)

as i said, plesae check the mugshots gallery mate... and dont say hello to me

Ali, Leave the personal threats out please. No need for that imo.

dave thats not a personal threat,

a personal threat would be......................stay the fuck out of this,

i dont see why this should get locked

[shane325i]

i dont see why this should get locked

But where is it going?Whats the point?All you're doing is s**t stirring and its not needed.Were your wheels refurbished?No they wern't so whats it got to do with you?

Perhaps take some of your own advice-

stay the **** out of this

Appologies to everybody else on here,tis truely a fantastic site but threads like this waste bandwidth.The point has been made,why drag it out?

[DanThe]

[Kos]

i dont see why this should get locked

But where is it going?Whats the point?All you're doing is s**t stirring and its not needed.Were your wheels refurbished?No they wern't so whats it got to do with you?

Perhaps take some of your own advice-

stay the **** out of this

Appologies to everybody else on here,tis truely a fantastic site but threads like this waste bandwidth.The point has been made,why drag it out?

i was asked for my opinon on the wheels when cam first got them done, this is back in june some time at the feltham e36 meet, i though they were shit , i got asked for my opinoin on wheel fefurbs so i speak as i find. so i am involved mate. shane your a decent fella, and i know you are mates with carslos which is understanable you getting involved

you might know, who's "the truth"

[retro-wheels]

mistakes happen to everyone, if you run a business you cannot run away for them, ive had quite a hard time of late but although jobs have dragged on due to these difficulties i have done and will continue all i can untill they are finished and will leave here perfect.

you cant ever let a sub standard job leave your premises, because it'll always come back and cause you grief and cause you loss of business.

This has nothing to do with me, but being in the same trade as well as running my own business im just saying how it goes

[shane325i]

you might know, who's "the truth"

I did some digging mate but wasnt anybody i knew,believe me if it was i would say so to try and end this.Carlos is a good mate yea and so is cam,ive tried to keep out of this because i dont want to take any sides,hope i havent offended you mate.

Wheelbright will be having my wheels next week so hopefully they can redeem themselves

[ed325i]

Are all the wheel places in kent
Anyone know of places near cambridge ?

[t_montana]

i was doing a search for wheel refurbishing and happen to come accross this, makes interesting reading

i was gong to use either lepsons or spit and polish, to get my 15" BBS done, just wanted who else has used them. both are reputable companies which have been opperating for many years, but some where along the line they may not be up to standard, but that part of life. i'm sure a company will correct any issued and concersn they have, whuch is somehting carlos ( who's playing middle man ) has failed to do. nor can he take any negative comments very well.

i was at gaydon and saw the custom cars creations, all looked superb, not exactly what i'd do but i can appreciate the time and effort put into them.

spoke breifly to the owner of the macau blue convertable, i cant forget his name as it was rocky ! he told me his car gets used every day and used by his wife so its not perfect, infact he said himself its nothing special. he likes to "rag it" its good to see cars being used an not garagred and hidden away

any way , my take on this thred is the following

carlos plays middle man between customer and wheel bright, NOT a good idea and he cant take the flack for turning out a sub standard job, and now an un known guy called "the truth" hs come from no where to critisize dips aka custom cars, and trying to create negative spin

not good as its obviouly a contact and connection of carlos.

[tylerma]

Blah blah blah

hello Kos

[Jon_Bmw]

Has everyone got 2 accounts or something? I feel behind the times here!

On topic, i'd use the retro wheels guy as some of the pictures of his work are stunning, in fact every picture HE has shown have been awesome. The fact he is local is also a bonus. I do not know retro wheels by the way, never met the guy so thats an unbiased opinion.

[dark_sounds]

retro wheels have some excellentwork dished out from whati have seen in otherforums, (vw forums) though never seen in proper pics, thugh they look crem dela crem.

though iv never seen retro wheels work, it does look spot on even from the typers of wheels he offers for sale, proper top end wheels.

as he says, do a half ass job and itwill come back to you. this is what has happened. a competitve market knowledge is free between parties thus helping consumers decide where to spend their money, and also helping to determine the fair value of the good in question. the same reason why some pay more to take their car to bmw garage as apposed to a local... by knowing the information brought forward about wheel bright, and carlos being middle man, i personally now rate their service at a much lower cost then say for example, lepsons/spit and polish/ retro wheels.

this thread has done nothing but bring to light what really happens! unfortunatly alot of bullshit goes on in this place, bad work by people providing a service is often hidden, and thus no one knows what really goes on, just a few praise threads... and all the negative threads are hidden.. which is unfair on the next customer who doesnt know the full history of that company.

though i must say up until recent , i thought carlos was the guy who done the wheels, he made it seem so by the wya he answered his questions when infact hes just a middle man? (bread and butter beinga middle man,, someones leading it kooshty) he should have made that a bit clearer maybe, then possibly less negativity would have been directed at carlos, and at wheel bright instead ?

[Dr Firefly]

Has everyone got 2 accounts or something? I feel behind the times here!

On topic, i'd use the retro wheels guy as some of the pictures of his work are stunning, in fact every picture HE has shown have been awesome. The fact he is local is also a bonus. I do not know retro wheels by the way, never met the guy so thats an unbiased opinion.

It's Retro-wheels again!! Burn him!!!


Seriously, this multiple account thing is seriously sad - am I going to find out that there is no E30zone community - ie I've just been talking to the same guy for the last year and a half and it's all just an elaborate hoax?

[Jon_Bmw]

Has everyone got 2 accounts or something? I feel behind the times here!

On topic, i'd use the retro wheels guy as some of the pictures of his work are stunning, in fact every picture HE has shown have been awesome. The fact he is local is also a bonus. I do not know retro wheels by the way, never met the guy so thats an unbiased opinion.

It's Retro-wheels again!! Burn him!!!


Seriously, this multiple account thing is seriously sad - am I going to find out that there is no E30zone community - ie I've just been talking to the same guy for the last year and a half and it's all just an elaborate hoax?

/\ That sir is one of the funniest things I have read on here. It just tickles my sense of humour.

[Dr Firefly]

Nice to be appreciated

[shazE30]

/\ Second that actually most of this thread is quite funny

[eko]

So how many on here have more than one screen name?