How do i get my car in PBMW mag?

[tylerma]

its not lible malcom, but its not entierly untrue. did you not have any issues with your car?? honestly ??

so by saying its not entirely true
you are calling yourself a liar

"The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of libel
(harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a
picture, sign, or electronic broadcast),
each of which gives a common law right of action."

i know ants your mate so you are taking this personaly

no I have had no reliability issues with Ants work
the only problems I have had with my car have been my doing
or "wear and tear" do you know of any that I am not aware of

Ant is a good friend yes
so are you and Dips and I am not taking it personal no
I would defend both parties if somebody was slating there work

you may have been "in the game" for a long time time mate
but in no way does that make you a professional

are you telling me that when you started doing these things
you perfected it straight from the get go
I dont things so
even the big boys mess up to start with

also Kos
coming out with a comment like this

i'm not starting an argument, just making a point and thats not being rude,
stop trying to intimidate me with your new "moderator" status

is rude and out of order and is uncalled for
Dave was not rude to you or trying to intimidate

merely entering into a discussion
and you took a swipe

you want to state your opinion with no comebacks
but Dave cant

pretty much as soon as you entered this thread you have been on the attack

[blingsta]

Oh and by the way. Ant didnt do the bird shit welding on the down pipe... that was torque exhausts... whom i would use again despite their shitty welding... as for the messy thermal wrap, thats been off a few times so they can do the down pipe for me!!!

did i say it was done by ant ?? i just said it resembled bird shit

your wheels look like they have the wrong et for an e30, and your boot lid dosnt sit straight.

NO you didnt say Ant done the welding, but Ant done the conversion so you may have thought that he done the welding too, i just wanted to clear that up.... and as far as wrongness goes!!!! WASNT IT YOU WHO TRIED TO SELL ME A TURBO MANIFOLD AND A PIGGYBACK ECU TOGETHER WITH OTHER BITS N BOBS THAT WASNT FOR A E30???? i was upfront with you and said i knew nothing about the turbo game, but you still said "yeah man it will fit and be ok" What a Geezer you are...?

[bootyman]

I think you girls are going way off line here. There seem to be a mis-understanding that you have to spend top dollar to get a feature. The reality is YOU DONT, but what you do has to be different. There are 2 types of cars that mags like to feature. 1 is cars like the Rieger which is a show car. In that i mean nothing on the car is there for practicality. I often get asked why do have you got 10 screens, or 26 speakers and tweeters? and i always reply "CAUSE I CAN" because a show car is about showing what can be done with imagination and a lot of the time, money. That in no way means mags wont feature a practical everyday car though. Only thing is, it has to be different slightly be it a really clean body and engine, a few subtle mods that are not in your face, but still noticable. I've often seen cars which i've asked myself whether they were feature worthy, but i'm sure thousands of others loved them. You have to remember that a mag has lots of readers with different taste, so they try to feature as broad a range of cars to appeal to as much of their readers as possible.

Ho and not all big body kitted, big wheels and lairy paint BMW''s are guaranteed a feature. Does any of you at Gaydon last years see the purple E36 cab with the white leather interior, huge rims and the Lambo doors? Well i know the owner and i know he spent over 2 years building it, but have you ever seen it in PBMW? NO. That's because You can have a car with a wide kit and the rest, but tastefully done and you can also have a car with wide kit and the rest, but perhaps not so tastefully done. At the end of the day, the editor of a mag gets paid to make these judgements, so by all means send you pic to her and see what happens

[Nelly]

goukis had a proven 238bhp 2.7

proven by who???

[bootyman]

ME!!

[dark_sounds]

an excellent read for the morning tea.

[munky30]

I wonder if they'll feature my car.

Its different.

What a bunch of women you all are. Was there a group buy on handbags that I missed because there seems to be an abundance of handbag waving in here.

Blingsta, just email them with some pics and see what they say. Nobody but the editor of a magazine can pre-determine what they will or wont feature so all this is just 'my car's better than yours' bullsh*t, with a few obvious personal grudges thrown in to the mix to hot things up a bit.

[maxfield]

This has turned into a bit of a vicious thread

Although there has been some decent discussion.

Makes good reading after an hour and 15 minutes maths exam

[SK360]

hi erel. i'd say at the end of the day, do what some of the zoners are sayin, send your pics in to the mag, but if your happy with the way its modified and don't want to go over the top by spending X amounts of money, don't bother, just keep it how it is and drive it, i'd still be happy with it! even i wanna get a feature simply for the recognition and satisfaction side of things, it'll feel like you'd have achieved something, especially in mag, when its in print

[maxfield]

Speaking of PBMW, my mum has just bought me the latest copy, she's a good 'un

I think your car is worthy of a feature looking at a couple of cars in here.

[ste]

How do i get my car in PBMW mag?

You build a car. If it's worthy of a feature Louise will know about it and she will email or ring you. If it isn't, she won't.

So if you're asking I guess you need to do more work.

[Jhonno]

How do i get my car in PBMW mag?

You build a car. If it's worthy of a feature Louise will know about it and she will email or ring you. If it isn't, she won't.

So if you're asking I guess you need to do more work.

[blingsta]

i think this can end here then guys... . i will as suggested drop them an e-mail when im ready and simply see what happens.. Thanks for all who have supported me and suggested i should try.... will see whoever turns up at Lakeside on Saturday...

[bootyman]

I think the point Kos is trying to make and perhaps not getting it accross too wel is that you can have a turbo car, but then if there are a few other turbo cars like yours around, what makes your car worth a feature? In that case it's the little touches that the other cars dont have.

Saying that Blingsta has stated that he's not bothered if he doesnt get a full feature and would be quiet happy with just a pic and a small write up, so i dont see no reason why his car cant go in the readers rides section. I've seen much worse there.

[munky30]

How do i get my car in PBMW mag?

You build a car. If it's worthy of a feature Louise will know about it and she will email or ring you. If it isn't, she won't.

So if you're asking I guess you need to do more work.

What an absurd statement. Is she omnipotent or something? 'The all seeing eye' ooooh!

I have a friend with an absolutely immaculate e30 325 sport. With about 20k of engine mods that puts out 400bhp.

He lives as a hermit in a cave in cornwall. Does she know of his car?

(thats not true by the way, but it could be. How the hell does she know of every modified/restored/tuned bmw in england and thus know which are worthy of a feature? Or is it like most magazines where a handful of bodyshops and garages, mostly run by relatives or friends of the editor, are the only places feature cars come from?)

[bootyman]

What an absurd statement. Is she omnipotent or something? 'The all seeing eye' ooooh!

I have a friend with an absolutely immaculate e30 325 sport. With about 20k of engine mods that puts out 400bhp.

He lives as a hermit in a cave in cornwall. Does she know of his car?

(thats not true by the way, but it could be. How the hell does she know of every modified/restored/tuned bmw in england and thus know which are worthy of a feature? Or is it like most magazines where a handful of bodyshops and garages, mostly run by relatives or friends of the editor, are the only places feature cars come from?)

She is constantly asking round if people know of any feature worthy cars and i personally have put her in touch with a good few cars which have made front cover. PBMW is not like Max Power or similar mags where they have hundreds of Chav Saxo's etc to pick from every month. The BM tuning scene is very small and they only have so much to chose from hence why sometimes you see the odd almost standard cars in the mag.

To be honest the days when loony's like myself spend 70k on E30's and the likes are very nearly over now. Soon it will be mostly budget cars with big bhp and the odd mad car like mine and not the other way round as it was a couple of years ago. Besides i've just spent all that money on my car again and i cant even be bothered to rush and get it finished because a feature dont make the World go round. There are far more important things in everyday life to worry about.

[munky30]

Fair enough, it just struck me that to say if you've built a feature worthy car she will know of it' is a bit complacent.

There are plenty of people that build cars to an incredibly high spec, visually or in performance terms, but keep themselves to themselves so wouldn't be known to anyone, much less a magazine editor.

If one of them decided they wanted a feature, they would email or write.

I'm not saying thats the cse with blingsta, its hard to imagine the magazines don't scan forums like this for cars so if they wanted it, they may well have already approached him. But to assume that they know of every feature worthy car without the owner getting in touch is a bit much.

I agree that you've got to be a bit of a nut to spend 70k on an e30 though.

[oakey]

goukis had a proven 238bhp 2.7

proven by who???

^ this is what I'm interested in. How?

[munky30]

budget cars eh? I might email them about mine

Oh wait... budget with big power... arse.

[maxfield]

I agree that you've got to be a bit of a nut to spend 70k on an e30 though.

To be fair, it's probably easier done than said.

My dad has spent about 50k, he was just a bit bored no nuts in anyway

It will probably make way for a new project

[blingsta]

I think the point Kos is trying to make and perhaps not getting it accross too wel is that you can have a turbo car, but then if there are a few other turbo cars like yours around, what makes your car worth a feature? In that case it's the little touches that the other cars dont have.

Saying that Blingsta has stated that he's not bothered if he doesnt get a full feature and would be quiet happy with just a pic and a small write up, so i dont see no reason why his car cant go in the readers rides section. I've seen much worse there.

Hit the nail on the head mate, he didnt have to start slating the car, but i suppose its his own opinion and i wont hold it against him !

maybe i will lie like most and say its pushing 700BHP.. bet that will get a feature!!

[bootyman]

Munky i agree with you that she ca possibly know of every feature worthy car out there hence why at the back of every issue they encourage people to send in pics of their cars. To be honest i personally dont think the BM scene in the UK is anything special. We talk a lot, but very few actually go and do what they say and that is why you see more and more cars from abroad in PBMW these days.

I would never discourage anyone from sending in a car because the worst they can say is no and besides we all have different taste so the editor might like it and decide to feature it!

[munky30]

Munky i agree with you that she ca possibly know of every feature worthy car out there hence why at the back of every issue they encourage people to send in pics of their cars. To be honest i personally dont think the BM scene in the UK is anything special. We talk a lot, but very few actually go and do what they say and that is why you see more and more cars from abroad in PBMW these days.

Very well said! It seems to me to be mostly about restoring and sticking boring standard issue options onto cars that didnt come with them from the dealers.

Very dull. If only bmw owners had the vision and drive of vw owners the uk bmw scene would be a lot more interesting.

Your car for instance, not to my taste in any way but one hell of a piece of kit and I respect it and you for pushing the boundaries a bit. Yet it gets slated by the cloth cap brigade for being 'council' and not worth the effort.

[DaveD]

Are we going to see the new updated version at Gaydon Ben?

[Nelly]

I could bang on for hours about conditions, paint work, history, bhp's, turbos, super chargers etc etc etc.

At the end of the day, who here really - and i do mean really gives a flying fuck about it all?

If a feature is what your after and info as to how to go about it is the objective then surly that's what should of been put Erel's way? not a lashing of how your car "in my eye's" is not worthy.

[ste]

Fair enough, it just struck me that to say if you've built a feature worthy car she will know of it' is a bit complacent.

No it isn't. It's her job to know.

As Booty says, it's a relatively small community. I've certainly not made any contact with PBMW or made any effort to get my car in the magazine yet Louise has emailed me a few times and we've chatted on the phone about a feature for my tourer.

I've had 5 or 6 cars featured now in different magazines and have never approached them. I've always received an email or a call from the magazine and it's gone from there.

I'm not speculating, I'm talking from experience. If you know better carry on though.

[ste]

To be honest i personally dont think the BM scene in the UK is anything special.

Ain't that the truth!

Pick up a copy of PBMW and compare it to a copy of PVW. If MK2 Golfs were RWD I'd have never ended up anywhere near a BMW.

[maxfield]

Pick up a copy of PBMW and compare it to a copy of PVW. If MK2 Golfs were RWD I'd have never ended up anywhere near a BMW.

+ 1, well i wouldn't be on here if they were.

E30s can be made to look cool.

You are a hero, defiantly the car that stands out most on the zone to me.

[bootyman]

Very dull. If only bmw owners had the vision and drive of vw owners the uk bmw scene would be a lot more interesting.

I've been saying this for time. Gaydon is a perfect example of that. It's just how people turn thier noses up at you for daring to be different that has stopped the UK BM scene from growing. Fortunatly a few others and myself havent taken any notice and have gone on to do our own thing. I have no hesitation to chop up any BMW

As far as my car personally goes, no one will ever build a car that everyone would love everything on. It's all subjective and someone will always change something. As long as people appreciate the time and effort that has gone into the car i'm happy.

Louise is very on the ball and she takes the effort to go to shows and talk to people and that is something that as much as i liked Iain before her, he never use to do. Lousie done the 1st write up on the Rieger and i was far from happy cause you could tell she was inexperienced at the time, but since then her understanding of the BM scene has grown 1,000 folds and like i said, she doesnt think she's too big to ask or come over and have a chat with you, so dont hold back. If you think your car is feature worthy then by all means ask. As someone said, Ant's car, Sal's car and quiet a few others have all shown that you dont need a stainless twin turbo engine, or 10 screens or 26 speakers like i have to get a feature. Just a mint car with some choice mods will do

[Nelly]

Yeah, but tbh, there has been some undercover turds featured in the past

[munky30]

Fair enough, it just struck me that to say if you've built a feature worthy car she will know of it' is a bit complacent.

No it isn't. It's her job to know.

As Booty says, it's a relatively small community. I've certainly not made any contact with PBMW or made any effort to get my car in the magazine yet Louise has emailed me a few times and we've chatted on the phone about a feature for my tourer.

I've had 5 or 6 cars featured now in different magazines and have never approached them. I've always received an email or a call from the magazine and it's gone from there.

I'm not speculating, I'm talking from experience. If you know better carry on though.

I don't know better, or claim to. Magazine features aren't really something I aspire to tbh. Just having a car I like. So I don't know the ins and outs of how to get a feature apart from what my common sense tells me.

But my point is that you, for instance, have made your car available to the public, and thus her, by showing it on here and at shows, where it will get noticed and hence have had offers of features.

Plenty of people build cars but don't show them, or use the internet. These cars will and do slip under the radar if the owner doesn't notify magazines of their existence.

[ste]

...and that is something that as much as i liked Iain before her, he never use to do....

To be fair - he was an utter drip. We invited him to cover the E30 rolling road shoot-out at Bexleys way back when we were all on BMW Car Mag forum before this place existed. I had a 316 badge on the back of my 2.7 Sport and all day he thought it was a 316, even though it destroyed his shite US Spec white M3 dog on the rollers.

[bootyman]

Yeah, but tbh, there has been some undercover turds featured in the past

Like i said, i've seen some cars in there that i've asked myself if they were feature worthy, but that doesnt mean there wans't thousands of others who liked it.
When you do a shoot, they take 5 hours or so of film. Now the pics used in all my features are not ones i'd have used were i the editor, but i'm not, so it's all subjective in the end.

[Shinobi1]

Fair enough, it just struck me that to say if you've built a feature worthy car she will know of it' is a bit complacent.

No it isn't. It's her job to know.

As Booty says, it's a relatively small community. I've certainly not made any contact with PBMW or made any effort to get my car in the magazine yet Louise has emailed me a few times and we've chatted on the phone about a feature for my tourer.

I've had 5 or 6 cars featured now in different magazines and have never approached them. I've always received an email or a call from the magazine and it's gone from there.

I'm not speculating, I'm talking from experience. If you know better carry on though.

Ste mate they think its 5 different cars coz you change the wheels every week

[dark_sounds]

BTW Kos you seem to have some beef with A-Tech cars
and practices when it comes to management
can I suggest you keep these oppinions off the forum
it will just cause bad feeling

dude im sorry but thats just wrong, dont say it cos it will cause tension? so what, as a person who would liek to find out more, i would rather hear as much information as possible,

for example, the guy who done Camshafts wheels, Carlos, look ok in pictures, but when you see them in person you can see the imperfections present , however as soon as someone said the pictures are good, you have 10 messages saying, oh wow carlos is the man! f;ing amazing job, yeah yeah yeah,,, no one wants to stick out and say, hang on its not that great... or they dont want to cos its gonna cause "tension" if i sent off my wheels to him and got a similar finish then i would think wtf was all the hype about!

same thing, management wise, no doubt i will go MS, im not gonna back kos up in his opinions of MS, as i think its a decent management system and for the price you should be more then happy realistically. does what ou need out of a management system,

but come on malcome, you gotta admit a comment like that is a bit of nonsense really, if someone does a shit job, it should be known, if someone goes a genuinly good job then likewise. but just because its gonna cause tension then everything wll be full of good work and no one will know the truth of bad jobs, regardless of what the job is.

kos's opinion isnt one of a random newbie whos never tinkered with cars, hes got a fair whack of experience and does his reading and research into things, personally i value his opinion as well as many others on the zone. everyones got a brain to use, then use it and judge for yourself! i dont agree with everything kos says regardless of his experience, kos i make my own judgements and appply it to what i want/need out of my car...

im currently doing Mahmoods sound install, if he doesnt like it, i dont want him to say infront of everyone he likes it, and he thinks my workmanship is fantastic, why.. just cos it might cause tension at the next ace meet. no.. id rather he told me its shit, he hates it, and its not worth what hes paying, then ill either try to resolve it. or be made to look like an idiot, but ill respect him for saying so..

basically... if someone screws you over on a engine mod, wheels, body, ice, anything,,, and you still say good job, then realistically. your a dumb shit who is missing his bollocks.