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Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:48 pm

Andyboy wrote:0-100 is what separates Men from Boys. Any car that can beat 15 seconds to the Ton is very decent.
right oh then,ill give that one a shot.on my private stretch of motorway of course :D
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Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:28 pm

northloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
Northloop, I agree completely! :thumb: :D

I think you and I are definately on the same page on the whole subject! :)
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northloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommend 8O
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fuzzy wrote:
northloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommend 8O
Sounds like fun to me! :-)

Slow in fast out - no problem! :)
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:59 pm

carpmart wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
northloop wrote:Going in straight lines is easy.......... hell you dont even have to hold the steering wheel if you dont want to.
going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommend 8O
Sounds like fun to me! :-)

Slow in fast out - no problem! :)
Either that or he owns a totally pointless unusable car :D

M3's and CSL's have more than that amount and they cope pretty well :wink:
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:07 pm

Sounds a bit quick to me, but I'm not going to rubbish it just yet :op Turbo-Brown has a point! With regards to the K&N filter though, at best I think performance will only be retained. They don't get such good write-ups on the E30's!
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whiterhino wrote:renault 5's were quatermile kings dont get it twisted.gt tuning and the likes of bb tuning prepared cars fly.i should know enuff said winkeye
Performance Car magazine (now EVO) road tested the phase 1 R5 GTT in November 1986 issue (still have it) using the relevant timing equipment, full tank of fuel & 2 bodies in the car and got 125 Vmax and 0-60 in 6.9

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Their bodywork is bean-tin thin though...I wouldn't fancy having a prang in one.
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:36 pm

Yeah, true. Plus it'll only do one 0-60 before blowing up. Oh god. At least you can do it twice in an E30, albeit slower.
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I've had 4 E30's all 325i, the fastest 2 were the older ones, 1986 and 1987, I presume as they had no cat converter. Next was the 1989 F plat saoon, next was the tourer whaich was slower top end as well.
Th fastest was an 1986 325i 4 door, I'm no mechanic so assume it was near standard, although it did have a hign pressure fuel regulator thingy bob.
I timed this myself and independantly at 7 seconds dead, and regularly 7.2's and 7.3's.

The touring was around 8.5, the 1989 f plater was around, 8 dead.
I think if you get a good early one low 7's is possible, but 6 seconds, no way!
I presently have an old 1987 E3o I use as a track car and that goes well, it's stripped out too, but it would never break 7 seconds.
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northloop wrote:
carpmart wrote:
fuzzy wrote: going fast around corners in the wet with a 292 bhp rear wheel drive bmw is not something i recommend 8O
Sounds like fun to me! :-)

Slow in fast out - no problem! :)
Either that or he owns a totally pointless unusable car :D

M3's and CSL's have more than that amount and they cope pretty well :wink:
the cars fine,its purely down to the over enthusiastic, excuse at the ready"it wasnt my fault it was the car.....etc etc",over hyped up heavy right footed driver winkeye although to be fair the m3's and csl's have electronic trickery and other driver aids in their favour.turbo-browns right enough though,the 0-60 thing is really only important in the pub as a 'my cocks bigger than yours' sort of boast :D
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Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:15 pm

Autocar mag said 7.4 to 60 and a quarter in 15.6 if I remember correctly.
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Palazzo wrote:Autocar mag said 7.4 to 60 and a quarter in 15.6 if I remember correctly.
all the different mags quote different times, PBMW say 8.3 yet the m3 with only 30 bhp more is quoted as 6.7,who knows for sure :?
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in my owners handbook it states the 0-60 is 8.3 for a 2 door.
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especially if you read it on here :D
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Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:46 am

I think with the sport gearing u always gonna struggle for good 0-60 time as u need that extra gearchange to third.

but a healthy light sport is pretty quick and deffo low 7 secs

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later it looked like this but i never got the chance to rerun it up the quarter mile :(

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and for launching u need rear suspension travel to encourage weight transfer :wink: it used to launch superb 4k rpm held and sidestep clutch winkeye
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Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:49 am

ohh just remembered

on the day was racing against three other guys in various cars but we were all equally matched on the day

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we all ran sub 15's all day long but the beemer was fastest by .04 secs and the most consistent as the fwd boys either launched great or really bad :o

over all was a great day as it was so close
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Quoted figures seem to vary - Autocar Figures from the time are as follows -
0-60 325i 2 door - 7.4
325i sport - 6.8
M3 - 7.1

0-100 325i 2 door 19.9
325i sport 18.8
M3 19.0

This doesn't seem to make sense, why would a sport be faster than 200 bhp M3?
If it was just 0-60 then it could be down to gears but 0-100 is a better marker and its faster there too?
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More low-down torque most likely explains this.
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320iSE wrote:More low-down torque most likely explains this.
you'd be only using the low end torque in 1st gear though
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Hmm, wonder what a tweaked 325i with Sport close-ratio 'box and M3 4.1 diff accelerates like...? Should in theory be able to crack around the 6 second 0-60 time.
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Cyril wrote:Quoted figures seem to vary - Autocar Figures from the time are as follows -
0-60 325i 2 door - 7.4
325i sport - 6.8
M3 - 7.1

0-100 325i 2 door 19.9
325i sport 18.8
M3 19.0

This doesn't seem to make sense, why would a sport be faster than 200 bhp M3?
If it was just 0-60 then it could be down to gears but 0-100 is a better marker and its faster there too?
Was the Sport tuned in anyway?


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Just a close-ratio 'box, M-tech suspension and LSD AFAIK.
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320iSE wrote:Hmm, wonder what a tweaked 325i with Sport close-ratio 'box and M3 4.1 diff accelerates like...? Should in theory be able to crack around the 6 second 0-60 time.
M3's don't come with those diffs I don't think.

3.15 or 3.25 so useless for a sport.
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Okay, so a Sport beat an E30 M3? How can that be? The M3 must have the same sort of set-up with the close ratio gearbox, suspension, traction control and LSD.

What I can't believe is how the M3 time was longer than the Sport. Doesn't seem to make sense, anyone able to clear this up for me?


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Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:46 pm

sports and M3s have different gear boxs/ratios which need totally different diff ratios

M3 1:1 5th
Sports 1:1 4th and an over drive 5th gear of 0.81

M3s are mostly 3.25
Pre-face lift Sports are 3.64
Post-face lift Sports are 3.91
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is this thread STIIILLLLL running? god!

M3 LSD IS actually very useful in a 325 for 0-60 times - it means you can make 60 in 2nd gear (in fact, it'll do 67 with a standard box before you hit the rev limiter with the original chip in an early 325
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SCOTT325SE wrote:is this thread STIIILLLLL running? god!

M3 LSD IS actually very useful in a 325 for 0-60 times - it means you can make 60 in 2nd gear (in fact, it'll do 67 with a standard box before you hit the rev limiter with the original chip in an early 325
Oh yeah i never thought of it like that. Must save about 0.5 of a second from not changing gear.
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its very small difference, but its quite handy in the twisties i tell you that for sure!!!!! west wales has its fun uses sometimes!
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How did the Sport beat the M3 in the times? If the M3 has better LSD surely it'll be quicker than the Sport, no? I'm assuming it's the 2.3 M3 whitch has more bhp than the Sport? So how is the Sport quicker in those times?

Are M3 LSD's rare to get a hold of just out interest?


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I expect most E30 LSDs are probably kippered old lumps with slipping clutches by now anyway...
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Probably not worth investing in an M3 LSD then?

What about the figures (Sport & M3 times)?



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