325I SPORT OR VR6 CORRADO?

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Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:51 am

E30BeemerLad wrote: And you M3 pilots & devotees, remember how quick the M3 was on 5th Gear, barely quicker than a transit around the track. In fact I would say a 205Gti would probably sort out an M3 on track.


My dad would hapily take this experiment on :D
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:09 pm

Yawn.

both good cars, both modern classic imho (if for different reasons).

If I had the cash, I'd have both (and a few more besides).

Its all down to ersonal preference in the end. Don't let thinking you need RWD stop you from enjoying the VW (or any other good FWD cars) and don't let thinking you need to own the VW lead you to dismiss the Bimmer.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:21 pm

a good corrado vr6 fetch too much money(imho), although great looking. Far quicker than the golf equivilent which a 325i will keep up with.

Its a very hard one as the corrado is such a classy car(vr6 only) and sounds just as good as a howling m20, however another vote for rwd i'm afraid.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:42 pm

The Corrado is a brilliant car in VR6 format. They are pretty well built and definatley go better than a 325i.....much better!

You'd need a good 2.7 to beat one.

There are loads of upgrades out there for them to make them really ferocious.

Very very expensive to insure so bare that in mind.

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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:45 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:the thing that gets me with all this anti-FWD malarkey is that I personally see no real world benefits to RWD in terms of a fast drive on some country lanes. RWD is something that in all honesty deters me from really pushing it for fear of the rear end breaking away and spitting you backwards into a hedge or worse. With FWD you get the tell-tale bit of understeer and adjust accordingly, but you are likely to be round the corner and lining up the next in the FWD car whilst the RWD pilot is busy clinging on for dear life.

OK so with a RWD car you can be a hooligan and occasionally kick the rear our on a rounabout or whatever. But so what. Personally, if it means getting from A to B quicker and safer then I would take the FWD Corrado over the RWD sport.

And you M3 pilots & devotees, remember how quick the M3 was on 5th Gear, barely quicker than a transit around the track. In fact I would say a 205Gti would probably sort out an M3 on track.

I do drive a RWD car by the way
just to point out - that E30 M3 was a 190 bhp model which we have no idea of what the suspension was like.

A good 215 bhp model with a simple set of coilovers is a real weapon.

But then so is a 205 1.9 GTi!

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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:48 pm

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E30BeemerLad wrote: And you M3 pilots & devotees, remember how quick the M3 was on 5th Gear, barely quicker than a transit around the track. In fact I would say a 205Gti would probably sort out an M3 on track.


My dad would hapily take this experiment on :D
I would hope so chap, given the dollars your old man has thrown at the M3. But again spend even half that amount at a pug and I reckon it would still hose the M3 down
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:57 pm

The corrado is a much more sought after car than a 325i sport and is regarded as the best affordable sports coupe in recent years. Of course the 325 sport is also a well liked and sought after car aswell but for people to start slagging off the corrado is ridiculous, For all the people on here who think that the e30 is the only good car out there, Ive got news for you....It isnt. Thers many good cars out there that can give a 325 sport a run for its money and possibley beat it. As for 325 v's corrado vr6 I would say that the corrado would give it a proper seeing to. All this doesnt mean i dont want a 325 sport though it just means im not biass to e30's like alot of people on here. :wink:
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:00 pm

cheers for the info guys and by the way ive already got a sport which m5 pilot put through its paces a while ago but i do miss the vr and can only imagine what a corrado would go like with my friends mods.maybe ill lose the corsa and get a corrado aswell.the mrs loved that car.the bimmer scares her too much.she wont drive it at all. winkeye
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:09 pm

parts for the raddo are rare and pricey when they do come up

£300 upwards for a 2nd hand gearbox

very few parts from the golf will fit the raddo and nothing from the rest of teh raddo range will fit the vr6

ive priced up parts and tried sorcing them

not an easy task

they are good cars though
they are quicker and good fun for fwd car

they also handle well

their design is a lot newer than the old e30 but at the end of the day it comes down to personal choice

ideal world id have both
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:15 pm

Hows about, a compromise then...

Find a G60 Corrado & mod it a little.

My m8 has one running close to 200BHP & its amazingly rapid i just tell you!

The sound you get from the supercharger is amazing, bit its also v v expensive to run/maintain.

All this said & done, maybee im a little biased now as i conveted to Audi, but i did first have an e30 325iSE :-)

Still said, that old e30 i had was one of the smoothest cars, if not THE smoothest cars i have ever owned. This said, i owned a Fiat Coupe 16V non turbo before i got the e30, the Fiat was just a complete turd & a bad choice, was sooooo glad to see it go back to the finance company after i got pissed off with it costing a fortune & not going far without breaking!
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:29 pm

Corrado g60 good for close to 200bhp with just a chip and pulley, used to own a polo g40. The supercharged vw's are great, not too expensive to run however a charger rebuild every 40000miles is a pain(approx £500).

VR6 is far more sought after tho.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:32 pm

Its the charger rebuilds i was meaning when i said they can be expensive to maintian ;-)

Also, the fuel bills are pretty steep aswell.

Im sure my old e30 325iSE used less fuel than my A3 1.8T Sport with a remap does :-(

As soon as the turbo comes onto boost, just sit & kiss goodbye to the fuel! LoL
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:36 pm

I think corrados look ugly especialy from the side
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:23 pm

think i still prefer a clean scirocco
but with the vr6 lump in it
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:15 pm

i have been here before mate, this is my 6th e30 so far and as much as i have the likes of 2 e36 325i's there, the jags, and the discoverys somthing just takes me back to the e30 everytime, when i went to purchase this one and its only a 2.0i and am used to alot bigger power this is the one car that gave me the adrenelin rush and that shakey feeling from having just had a blast of it.
i do appreciate golfs/corrados and the old siroccos and yes they biult well, quick and german but just aint the same for me.
i think you will have an e30 back as soon as you wallet siuts it mate and run them along side each other at leaste if not get rid of the corrado.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:17 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:
maxfield wrote:
E30BeemerLad wrote: And you M3 pilots & devotees, remember how quick the M3 was on 5th Gear, barely quicker than a transit around the track. In fact I would say a 205Gti would probably sort out an M3 on track.


My dad would hapily take this experiment on :D
I would hope so chap, given the dollars your old man has thrown at the M3. But again spend even half that amount at a pug and I reckon it would still hose the M3 down
if you did spend half that on a pug you'd proabably be pushing well over 300hp and some trick suspension work

i seriosuly wonder how fast it will go around the ring
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:00 pm

If its a pug 205 we're talking about here then yes it would leave an e30 m3 round a track, With no problems, infact it would leave most cars inclucing some super cars. :roll:
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:10 pm

First things first. Both cars carry a huge following, more so the BM but the Corrado is still very well received. Secondly i think you need to look at what your getting for the money...and if your doing that id go VW.

Your getting a fantastic 2.9 engine, with reliability, economy (combined mpg 29.8) and a much more modern interior with leather, aircon, climate, abs etc etc.

The handling is very good (not tested myself) as nearly all articles at the time said, and lets be honest are you pushing ten tenths everywhere you go? No didnt think so. Besides at 6.2 to 60 thats ONLY a hundreth off an Evo Sport and will crack 150mph.

Residuals are excellent too, and id you get a Storm version can very realisticall see it go up in price due to its rare nature.

Done deal isnt it? :D
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:23 pm

Geoff wrote:First things first. Both cars carry a huge following, more so the BM but the Corrado is still very well received. Secondly i think you need to look at what your getting for the money...and if your doing that id go VW.

Your getting a fantastic 2.9 engine, with reliability, economy (combined mpg 29.8) and a much more modern interior with leather, aircon, climate, abs etc etc.

The handling is very good (not tested myself) as nearly all articles at the time said, and lets be honest are you pushing ten tenths everywhere you go? No didnt think so. Besides at 6.2 to 60 thats ONLY a hundreth off an Evo Sport and will crack 150mph.

Residuals are excellent too, and id you get a Storm version can very realisticall see it go up in price due to its rare nature.

Done deal isnt it? :D
I agree with all you say there but what you say about the corrado being economical is wrong.....29 mpg...yeah right, theyre real gas guzzlers, But alot of fun winkeye
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:40 pm

Well thats what Evo claim in their figures. Like i said i havent driven one so i cant categorically say....but your right i thought that was optimistic!...perhaps it was downhill?? winkeye
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:04 am

E30BeemerLad wrote: RWD is something that in all honesty deters me from really pushing it for fear of the rear end breaking away and spitting you backwards into a hedge or worse. With FWD you get the tell-tale bit of understeer and adjust accordingly, but you are likely to be round the corner and lining up the next in the FWD car whilst the RWD pilot is busy clinging on for dear life.
a 205gti is a lot more dangerous than any e30, and when it snaps sideways you'll be going a lot faster. :eek:

i've never had anything too scary happen in a bmw, but managed to spin my sisters 1.0 205 180 degrees on a country road 8O

Corrados VR6s sound very very very nice, but are big money for what you're actually getting - and those overbored 2.9s are prone to some nasty problems compared to the 2.8 golf lump: smaller water jackets on cyl 1 and 6, bore wear, time for a replacement block :(
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:28 am

And 22 mpg. Bollocks to what Evo say, my Mum had a 2.8 VR6 Golf and it was absolutely savage on fuel. It was like a miniature 735i.
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:49 am

only ahd the e30 snatch once at 80mph, only timre i have lost it and dont plane on doing it again, when i was doing numerouse 360's i was more concerne about stopping the axle twatting the kerb more than anything lol,
dont like little hatches snapping though, takes less time for them to swing back round,
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:27 am

I think my Zafira thinks it is a miniture 750i - bloody thing is terrible on fuel, managed 18.3 Mpg on the last tank.. all around town but even so !
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:04 pm

A Corado Vr6 is gona be faster than a 325i sport and it may well handle better but 6 letters make the Sport a better car imo



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