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Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:44 pm

Oh OK, maybe they're not so bad after all then - but not for RHD without mucho modification?
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i fink i hav! my sport fell to pieces i got the white cab now, currently off road but it will b back very soon, keep an eye out.
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remote oil filter at least unfortunately i'd have thought :-( ...
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Think you could probably rotate the oil filter housing around if you needed to, but would that manifold clear the steering link?
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Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:33 pm

I'd certainly like to measure it up.... wonder if they'd do one cheap lol
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Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:40 pm

Turbo-Brown wrote:Think you could probably rotate the oil filter housing around if you needed to, but would that manifold clear the steering link?
Fliping the oil filter housing worked on mine when we tryed it, mainly to make servicing easyer.

No idea on the stering linkage though
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TheRealest wrote:i dunno how u tell the difference of MIG or TIG weldin by lookin at a shite pic!
16 years as a fabricator helps........

TIG welding wont leave the black edges around the weld, MIG does.
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Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:22 pm

old school tip Oz!

reverse the oil filter 180 so u can actually get to it come oil change time! U can even point it to the floor if u have air con fitted as its in the way!
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kam-325i wrote:
TheRealest wrote:i dunno how u tell the difference of MIG or TIG weldin by lookin at a shite pic!
16 years as a fabricator helps........

TIG welding wont leave the black edges around the weld, MIG does.
yes with a TIG weld u get no impurities in the weld but still, u aint gon b able to tell by that pic!
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:32 am

MIG is fine for stainless as i understand it TIG is for aluminium.

"1. Dyno tested and proven increase horse power over 10-20 procent"

procent? is that intentional incase anyone tries to take em to court? "we didnt say it would increase a percentage we said procent".

anyway 200 pounds or roughly 400 aus is still a lot of money for some headers. for any other car manufacturer here u could get extremely good brand name quality headers for that price. i dont understand why these m20 headers are such a rip off.

if they fit they would hafto at least sound better than standard headers so ur not doing to badly.

when i was looking at the item on ebay my girl walks past n said "why would u want to buy a rake?" haha shes gold.
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:21 pm

lol loving the rake comment!

I agree, m20 headers are silly money.. these will deffo sound better and surely can't be any worse than the stock unit in terms of flow!
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:46 pm

dan_emaps wrote:
I agree, m20 headers are silly money..
Was at Williams F1 a while back, chatting to someone making up experimental exhaust manifolds. He said they cost Ԛ£11,000 a time!
THAT'S expensive headers!
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:09 pm

they need 2 though brian!

tbh proper manifolds cost money, plus M20's are old now so demand is not high but the price is as E30's are not bread and butter tuning anymore
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MIG is fine for stainless as i understand it TIG is for aluminium.
TIG can be used to weld pretty much anything.

You use DC for welding steels, brass, copper and the like, and you use AC for aluminium welding.

It looks SO of welding Ali as you can see the oxide going mad when you're getting heat into the material.
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:26 am

Brianmoooore wrote:
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I agree, m20 headers are silly money..
Was at Williams F1 a while back, chatting to someone making up experimental exhaust manifolds. He said they cost Ԛ£11,000 a time!
THAT'S expensive headers!
i've been round a few of the F1 teams (they love showing off to all visitors!) and have seen these things too. the level of craftsmanship that goes into them is truly amazing isn't it!

how come you've been round there then brian? work jolly of some sort?
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:41 am

people charge what they know people will pay because they know that alot of 'boy racers' still live at home and have a s**t loada cash burning a hole in there pocket! i think Ԛ£199 for this one is a good price,theres probably Ԛ£80 worth of stainless there and the rest is labour,charging Ԛ£600 upwards for a mild steel one is ridiculous! if you weighed one in you wouldnt get Ԛ£20!!
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the americans seem to have had a similar debate

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gareth wrote: how come you've been round there then brian? work jolly of some sort?
Brother-in-law is a partner in a firm that provides drivers for the transporters. They have their own drivers, but need extra ones because of the driving hours restrictions.
He gets flown out to all the European GPs early on the Sunday mornings and frequently rings me from the pits just as a race is about to start. Miserable ba**ard!!!
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:50 pm

TheRealest wrote:
kam-325i wrote:
TheRealest wrote:i dunno how u tell the difference of MIG or TIG weldin by lookin at a shite pic!
16 years as a fabricator helps........

TIG welding wont leave the black edges around the weld, MIG does.
yes with a TIG weld u get no impurities in the weld but still, u aint gon b able to tell by that pic!
I can tell by that pic.....A MIG weld Is HUUUUUOOOOGE compared to a TIG weld, the fact that you can see them indicates MIG Welding...A TIG weld on those downpipes should be no wider than 3-4mm.
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:09 pm

agreed. it's obvious! you can see the mig welds in that pic but if it was tig, you would be very hard pushed!
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Just to add my experience.
I ordered a 'Raceland' manifold for E30 6cyl (LHD) off e-bay approx 150ish but I received 'TA Technix' brand instead. When I asked the seller why the answer was 'they all come from China and there is no difference between them', although I was able to find a website www.ta-technix.de.
Mine came without any exhaust manifold gaskets. I will try to fit it asap to see if it will match well.
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My 'Hottuning' six-branch (£200 delivered) has a Raceland plaque attached.
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Honestly I do not know but I assume they all come from China. Being in the tyre negociation business I've being offered to have my own name on chinese tyres from a factory in China, or any name/brand I wanted, let alone a steel plate. At this price, I doubt legal EU company can afford to offer manifolds but I may well be wrong... Anyway it looks better than standard and will mate my whole stanless G-power exhaust line. I hope there will be no power loss but as nobody was able to tell me that, I had to give it a try. Just crossing fingers it will be correctly bended to fit neat...may be worth trying it first on a spare head I have.

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6inline wrote:Honestly I do not know but I assume they all come from China. Being in the tyre negociation business I've being offered to have my own name on chinese tyres from a factory in China, or any name/brand I wanted, let alone a steel plate. At this price, I doubt legal EU company can afford to offer manifolds but I may well be wrong... Anyway it looks better than standard and will mate my whole stanless G-power exhaust line. I hope there will be no power loss but as nobody was able to tell me that, I had to give it a try. Just crossing fingers it will be correctly bended to fit neat...may be worth trying it first on a spare head I have.

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wish there site was in english

do you recon they do one for an m40 ????

tryed linking but wont link to that page. they do three on there site and there all for 4 cyl cars ???
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wish there site was in english

do you recon they do one for an m40 ????

tryed linking but wont link to that page. they do three on there site and there all for 4 cyl cars ???
That's exactly what makes me think of China. Pictures are the same but products aparently are different... I found this site after search in google after I received TA Technix instead of Raceland brand I bidded on the e-bay page. winkeye
BTW, if you are buying these tuning stuff you must be aware of the chinese quality, bacause this is what you buy. I bought the cheap E30 strut (approx 30 pounds) brace in aluminium as well. They come from China too and the problem with them is that they don't fit to the diameter of the tower which makes them useless (they will crack if bolted on the 3 bolts only). I had to make it fit by grinding the strut brace inside diameter.
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:26 am

I've ordered the e34 M50 manifold, they advise they can do it in rhd, will let you know if any good whenever it arrives
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