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Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:20 pm

Has anyone used these guys?
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Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:32 pm

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Has anyone used these guys?
Not used them myself for anything but spoke to them a couple of times about things they sell. They seem straight enough and do some quality stuff (at a price).

Have you seen some of the youtube videos? particularly the white S54 M3 recreation?

There have been a couple of negative comments floating around, but you will always get that and I think it has come from people who have not got much of an idea how much time, effort and money restoring a car can be and the fact things don't always go to plan no matter how good you are.

What are you looking to get them to do?
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:16 am

Thanks for the reply.

I wanted them to put my E46 Alpina B3S engine my Alpina C2 and they seem very knowledgeable and capable of doing a good job on it but I've been put off by them asking for payment in full up front for the subframe and other parts that they fabricate even though they won't even have them ready for 3 months. A deposit would be fine but being chased for details for an invoice and then payment has set alarm bells ringing a bit. I really wanted DanThe to do it for me but I've spoken to him and I know he's too busy to take on another project.

I am probably capable of doing it myself but as it will be quite an expensive build on quite a valuable car I would like a professional finish really. I know BMP are expensive and I don't mind paying if the standard matches the cost but paying for parts that they don't have up front is not what I expected.
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Thanks for the reply.
I wanted them to put my E46 Alpina B3S engine my Alpina C2 and they seem very knowledgeable and capable of doing a good job on it but I've been put off by them asking for payment in full up front for the subframe and other parts that they fabricate even though they won't even have them ready for 3 months. A deposit would be fine but being chased for details for an invoice and then payment has set alarm bells ringing a bit. I really wanted DanThe to do it for me but I've spoken to him and I know he's too busy to take on another project.
I am probably capable of doing it myself but as it will be quite an expensive build on quite a valuable car I would like a professional finish really. I know BMP are expensive and I don't mind paying if the standard matches the cost but paying for parts that they don't have up front is not what I expected.
Your car your choice and all that but you do realise you will be destroying the value of the C2? what is wrong with the engine of the C2? I would never put a plastic engine in my C1 no matter who it was made by, doesn't sound or look right.

As I said above I think they have had issues with people getting out of shape with the costs of a restoration and refusing to pay. Same in a lot of places. I can't blame BMP really, many peole read what people say on the likes of FaceAche and think it is reality for what it takes to get a decent job.

Have you sent JungleGus a PM? he did something similar and I am sure will give you some pointers, he seemed to thik it was more trouble than it was worth dealing with the Alpina vs a standard M52

Have you looked at BMR? There will be a wait there too but quality of the job is will not be in question and he has dealt with JungleGus's car
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:48 pm

Accept no substitute:

https://www.facebook.com/bmconversionsuk/

DanThe here on the Zone.
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:36 pm

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Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:48 pm
Accept no substitute:

https://www.facebook.com/bmconversionsuk/

DanThe here on the Zone.
Was 100% my preferred guy to do the work as mentioned in my post above
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:39 pm

flybynite wrote:
Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:44 am
bryn_p wrote:
Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:16 am
Thanks for the reply.
I wanted them to put my E46 Alpina B3S engine my Alpina C2 and they seem very knowledgeable and capable of doing a good job on it but I've been put off by them asking for payment in full up front for the subframe and other parts that they fabricate even though they won't even have them ready for 3 months. A deposit would be fine but being chased for details for an invoice and then payment has set alarm bells ringing a bit. I really wanted DanThe to do it for me but I've spoken to him and I know he's too busy to take on another project.
I am probably capable of doing it myself but as it will be quite an expensive build on quite a valuable car I would like a professional finish really. I know BMP are expensive and I don't mind paying if the standard matches the cost but paying for parts that they don't have up front is not what I expected.
Your car your choice and all that but you do realise you will be destroying the value of the C2? what is wrong with the engine of the C2? I would never put a plastic engine in my C1 no matter who it was made by, doesn't sound or look right.

As I said above I think they have had issues with people getting out of shape with the costs of a restoration and refusing to pay. Same in a lot of places. I can't blame BMP really, many peole read what people say on the likes of FaceAche and think it is reality for what it takes to get a decent job.

Have you sent JungleGus a PM? he did something similar and I am sure will give you some pointers, he seemed to thik it was more trouble than it was worth dealing with the Alpina vs a standard M52

Have you looked at BMR? There will be a wait there too but quality of the job is will not be in question and he has dealt with JungleGus's car
It's a C2 2.5 so not the most exciting model, engine messed with and needs rebuilding, original Alpina driver's seat missing, suspension and brakes already non standard so it's not like I'm ruining a nice example. It's not about value for me anyway, it's about creating a car that I want. I have a totally original Buchloe built C2 2.7 cab anyway (and some other E30s beside that :D )

The Alpina engine in the E46 is one of my favourite engines so what better place to put it than in one of my favourite cars. It can't be that bad an idea as DanThe is doing the same thing himself :D
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:18 pm

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It's a C2 2.5 so not the most exciting model, engine messed with and needs rebuilding, original Alpina driver's seat missing, suspension and brakes already non standard so it's not like I'm ruining a nice example. It's not about value for me anyway, it's about creating a car that I want. I have a totally original Buchloe built C2 2.7 cab anyway (and some other E30s beside that :D )
OK if it's a C2 2.5 bolt-ons special then I'll give you a bit of slack :D I would still have a chat with BMR, Barry knows his way round Alpinas, (he spends more time on the 'Pina fourm than here anyway :? ) although he might not give you as much slack for binning the M20.
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The Alpina engine in the E46 is one of my favourite engines so what better place to put it than in one of my favourite cars. It can't be that bad an idea as DanThe is doing the same thing himself :D
Don't be fooled, Dan would put a plastic engine in a mint E9 if he could, I'm sure he was one of the original CR24V cuprits too :roll:
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:26 pm

You will pay well over the odds if you take your car to bmp, and you will be waiting a hell of a lot longer anyway, ask on the facebook group im sure their previous victims/customers will come forward, ive heard plenty of stories either way
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flybynite wrote:
Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:18 pm
bryn_p wrote:
Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:39 pm
The Alpina engine in the E46 is one of my favourite engines so what better place to put it than in one of my favourite cars. It can't be that bad an idea as DanThe is doing the same thing himself :D
Don't be fooled, Dan would put a plastic engine in a mint E9 if he could, I'm sure he was one of the original CR24V cuprits too :roll:
:D :D :D
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You will pay well over the odds if you take your car to bmp, and you will be waiting a hell of a lot longer anyway, ask on the facebook group im sure their previous victims/customers will come forward, ive heard plenty of stories either way
Can you fit it in Dan if I wait?

You would be my preference to do the job by far
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Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:42 pm

Of course but I have no control over the wait unfortuntely.
By the way, there is no need for custom subframe/mounting arms etc, BMW did a perfectly good job of these
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DanThe wrote:
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Of course but I have no control over the wait unfortuntely.
By the way, there is no need for custom subframe/mounting arms etc, BMW did a perfectly good job of these
I would wait...................................nothing else to add there winkeye winkeye

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bryn_p wrote:
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Has anyone used these guys?
Looks like they called in the liquidators so I think they might have issues

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4224990

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Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:43 am

No surprises as to why he was asking for money 12 weeks upfront then
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