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Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:43 pm

Hello guys,
So I don't own a e30 yet, but i am just about to buy one but i have a few questions.
I am probably going to daily drive it, since i don't want it to be just weekend car or just stopped in the parking spot, I know how reliable the car will be will depend on how well the previous owner kept it, so I am thinking in doing straight away a main maintenance soon I buy the car, I want to enjoy the car as a daily and for some track days or just a country side drive.
Now my big problem is, I want a e30 touring and the engine is the problem, at the moment not many to sell 325i, but I am think doing a swap for a m30b35 anyway, i think the hp and torque is enough for the type of car i want, and want to keep the engine in the same range of years to be all classic xD
The question is if I buy a 316i or even 320i will be as easy to do the upgrade i saw is better to start with a 325i but since i am not probably doing the swap myself will really make a big difference?
This will be my first car RWD would it be better as well start with the 316i or 320i to win some practice with RWD ?
And in the UK am I able to find someone to do the swap for me and around what price that will cost me?
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:33 pm

A 325i was my first rwd car and I've had no problems even in the (very) wet, to be honest I struggled to even handbrake turn it or get it to slide on demand in the wet but Im a beginner. I use rainsport 5 tyres cos I'm from the uk and it rains a lot here. I'd say stick out and wait for a325 if you really want one, I waited 6 months to find the right one for me but it was so worth it. But if you're gonna swap anyway then you could go lower, up to you! A 325 demands a high premium so if you're gonna swap you may want to go lower.
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:17 pm

Yes i am not sure if I want to swap it, it might be enough or I just do some upgrades to give it more torque
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:00 pm

silveiro wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:17 pm
Yes i am not sure if I want to swap it, it might be enough or I just do some upgrades to give it more torque
It's fun to drive a slow car fast rather than a fast car slow
Mind I think the 325i is pretty fast.
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:17 pm

yes true, i have a audi a4 1.9tdi just destroyed inside of the cat and it makes a different sound plus a eibach lowering springs and i love to do some country side roads with it and just have 110hp so i bet 170hp would be fun, i am 25 and for 10 years i want a e30, my favourite video is from Jason Cammisa e30 touring, looks super cool and fun car to drive
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:16 pm

Welcome to the zone mate !!!
All tourings came with discs all around and larger suspension so thats all sorted if you drop a 325 in.
Even the 316 was the same.
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:01 am

Yes but I need to do more upgrades than disc for any swap right?
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:08 am

The chassis of the lowliest 316i touring is suitable for 250 BHP or so without any mods, except for possibly different front springs to compensate for a heavier engine.
The same cannot be said of the average 316i saloon.
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:32 pm

that is nice to know, but i think affect more the insurance if you have a 316i with swap than a 325i standard at least, because i think a 316i will not have enough power, but a 325i with some mods will
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:39 pm

silveiro wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:32 pm
that is nice to know, but i think affect more the insurance if you have a 316i with swap than a 325i standard at least, because i think a 316i will not have enough power, but a 325i with some mods will
On a standard run of the mill car insurance policy this will probably be true, but you should be insuring an E30 on something a bit more specialised and bespoke. Not least because a standard policy will pay out 4/5 of bu**er all in the event of a total loss.
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Brianmoooore wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:39 pm

On a standard run of the mill car insurance policy this will probably be true, but you should be insuring an E30 on something a bit more specialised and bespoke. Not least because a standard policy will pay out 4/5 of bu**er all in the event of a total loss.
Yes you probably right, i just know adrianflux for modified cars, anymore insurers?
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:53 pm

Found a 316i touring that look really mint condition probably rust free, my question is how easy would it be to swap a m20b25 to it
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:16 pm

Why settle for 12 valves, when you can have 24?
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:00 pm

that is true, i was looking at swaps, i think the one that i would like more is m54b30, but i don't have place to do it and knowledge either, how much a swap would cost me? not sure where you from but i live in the uk
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:02 pm

does this one look to good to be true?
https://ibb.co/album/qLcMRM
its just 316i suppose to have only 70k but is £10k
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:15 pm

Looks extremely tidy, BUT I'd want at least £1000 off because of the 15A fuse in the fuel pump position! Originally supplied by North Oxford, I see, the garage that my first E30 was supplied by when new, and who I bought it from as a trade sale.
That's an E30 that is probably late enough to have a compulsory cat. and emissions equipment. If you were to convert that to a M20B25, and the engine was late enough, you'd have to fit a cat. as well, or obtain documentary proof of the age of the engine if it were an earlier one.
By a quirk of the MOT rules you could fit a M5xBxx 24 valve engine to this car and not need a cat., however new that engine was. If you produce a car that is fitted with an engine that BMW did not fit into that model at any time, it is 'non book' and permitted emissions levels revert to the pre cat. limits.
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Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:49 am

Anyway to check if has cat without need to check it there?
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