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Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:12 am

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right.. after trying to sell the rustate with no joy and really needing it gone, it seems that most people dont believe how solid this car is or would prefer it with paint,, so what should i do?

1. clean her up and do a detailed photo shoot showing up close how clean she is,
2.repaint her in a flat base coat
3.go all out and give her a full respray/makeover using my favorite colour panama brown or similar like i did my t5 camper back along,Image[/img]Image

what do you think the resale would be if painted, as im shocked it hasnt sold for 1500 as it is,,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:21 am

Without Paint 500-1000 with Paint 1000-1500 depending on quality of job! :D
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:42 am

Or just return it to original colour...which is black?

Bit like selling a house, go for the colour that will give the biggest appeal...and as much as I don't mind that colour, I doubt brown sells!
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:45 am

Nobby_N wrote:Without Paint 500-1000 with Paint 1000-1500 depending on quality of job! :D
are you having a bubble bath, lol.. this car has only one small patch of welding on the sill and is solid, thats rare for an e30, conversion done using lowish millage engine,the car only has 100,000 miles fully stamped, abs and uprated rack as standard, full elctrick pack,ect ect,.

i know there are a lot of dreamers out there that think these cars are worth a small fortune, im not expecting that ill get top dollar, but this is worth more than your quote in parts alone,,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:55 am

Based on the pic of it, you'd have to pay me to take it away in its present condition. Not only the bodywork, but the rims and suspension scream that the car is an unloved, abused wreck. The MOT and your repair bills may say different, but you're really not doing yourself any favours with the arse dragging along the floor like that.

Look at the target market for E30 buyers, and how that affects price:

1) Drifters, stancers and rat look afficiondos = penniless students who can't spend anywhere near a grand on a car anyway
2) Mid-life crisisers who lusted after an E30 in their teens = will only pay decent cash for a gleaming pristine example
3) Barry the painter and decorator = wants a turd to smoke around in until the MOT runs out = isn't going to touch yours with a barge pole.

If you want it sold, make it sellable. Neither rust nor Dysentry Brown Metallic is going to make that car appealing to anyone but yourself.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:55 am

taylorstattoo wrote: but this is worth more than your quote in parts alone,,
are you paying for a re spray or doing yourself ? surely its not viable to pay ££ to get it re sprayed to sell it, more so in a differnt color and having it different color in the engine bay/boot/floor/etc, break it sell the parts seperate and sell the rolling shell or weigh it in maybe
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:36 am

The harsh reality of selling a car that has been modded to 'individual' taste strikes again. Alas, most who share your vision are penniless scum and or have spent all their money on ink :)
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:07 pm

Respray is off the cards, no matter how well you prep that it is going to rust through in no time at all.

It doesn't matter how clean the shell is, in 99% of buyers eyes you have ruined the car and the remaining 1% are all penniless ratc0cks who couldn't rub 2p together!

Accept what you have done and sell it for the sub grand it's worth. We all make mistakes, yours was rusting a solid turd and still expecting it to be worth something.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:24 pm

ross_jsy wrote:Respray is off the cards, no matter how well you prep that it is going to rust through in no time at all.

It doesn't matter how clean the shell is, in 99% of buyers eyes you have ruined the car and the remaining 1% are all penniless ratc0cks who couldn't rub 2p together!

Accept what you have done and sell it for the sub grand it's worth. We all make mistakes, yours was rusting a solid turd and still expecting it to be worth something.
This boy speaks sense!

Put it on ebay at a quid no reserve and you will find the true value in the current climate!
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:32 pm

I've just had a look at the pics in the other thread.

No foglights, front electric windows only, basic analogue clock, flocked (!) dash, mismatched front leatherzz, no side skirts, ruined bumpers... It's a poverty spec hound that will cost thousands to sell on. 1500 on ebay must have been a very generous offer.

Your best bet is to rip out the M52 installation and sell that on, flog the wheels and then scrap the rest.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:47 pm

Keep um coming boys I love your replies,, already It seems im not so bothered about selling it and keeping it on here just for the fact you all seem to love it so much is prob the right thing todo ,,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:49 pm

Thing is, the replies aren't slagging it but merely stating facts.

So confident it has value? £1 no reserve on eBay for 10 days. I think you will have a shock.

I like it btw, but it has next to no value.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:59 pm

taylorstattoo wrote:Keep um coming boys I love your replies,, already It seems im not so bothered about selling it and keeping it on here just for the fact you all seem to love it so much is prob the right thing todo ,,
I love when people say "Im not fussed about selling it" Fooook off why put it on ebay at a tenner a pop! Replys all look like there pretty sensible to me! you fucked up making it rusty, you will have learnt a lesson now either keep it and remove it from sale or put it on ebay and get your mates to bid it up to make us look silly :D
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:05 pm

I know what you mean, constructive criticism is always welcome, but when it comes from the same old turd gang that don't except anything thats not standard anyway it makes me laugh, I could do a full respray this time of year no probs for a few hundred £'s even though taking the shell back down to clean steal would be a pain. the rust is only a light covering and not sunken in which is what I think a lot of people don't understand,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:15 pm

Why would anyone listen to advise from people on here who haven't even got a car in there profile pic, ha ha co op and hitler ??? Funny boys from never never land, don't grow up It suits you
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:31 pm

Thats not Hitler its me! You have created this monster now your asking for advise to fix it! Now you get told how to sell it you dont like the advise! Anyway whats your hourly rate for Ink?
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:33 pm

Taylor how about even a wrap? As stating picking that brown, as nice as it is might be a dodgy move. If you decide to give it a paint I would suggest something safe your average schmuck will want.

Failing this, id post up on some of the more specialised sites and even pages like ChizFab and Jumanji nights

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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:44 pm

The Brown van is a T4, so is the green one. Flocked dash looks like belly button fluff, nose up isn't a good look. Looks like a Mike Burroughs wannabe. You've done your money on the mods, take what you can get for it. Might be interested in the engine when you break it.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:50 pm

taylorstattoo wrote:I know what you mean, constructive criticism is always welcome, but when it comes from the same old turd gang that don't except anything thats not standard anyway it makes me laugh, I could do a full respray this time of year no probs for a few hundred £'s even though taking the shell back down to clean steal would be a pain. the rust is only a light covering and not sunken in which is what I think a lot of people don't understand,
Nothing quite like a broad sweeping brush. Personally I thought mine was constructive, if you want to sell it get rid of the rust and save bother by matching it to whatever was the original colour so door linings and engine bay etc match.

If you can do it for a few quid then surely its a no brainer..if you want to sell.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:57 pm

Put a for sale sign on it and hang about RTTS, should be plenty of stance cocks in attendance. I would advise putting a roof rack adorned with old crap on it first if you want to double your asking price mind :cool:
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:59 pm

Nobby_N wrote:Thats not Hitler its me! You have created this monster now your asking for advise to fix it! Now you get told how to sell it you dont like the advise! Anyway whats your hourly rate for Ink?
first off i was not asking for advise on fixing it as there is not alot wrong with it and parked next to most factory e30`s it would steal there glory all day long, i was simply asking what these cars are going for with a top job met paint job thats not standard or a good clean flat paint job, so that i can weigh up weather its worth doing or not befor moving it on, i love this car so much and think it deserves a new owner rather than being broken for parts, money is not that much of a big deal but room is, as iv got to many toys on a small drive, at the same time im not willing to give it away as 1500 is nothing these days for a car as solid, old, and quick as this.
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taylorstattoo wrote:I know what you mean, constructive criticism is always welcome, but when it comes from the same old turd gang that don't except anything thats not standard anyway it makes me laugh, I could do a full respray this time of year no probs for a few hundred £'s even though taking the shell back down to clean steal would be a pain. the rust is only a light covering and not sunken in which is what I think a lot of people don't understand,
Nothing quite like a broad sweeping brush. Personally I thought mine was constructive, if you want to sell it get rid of the rust and save bother by matching it to whatever was the original colour so door linings and engine bay etc match.

If you can do it for a few quid then surely its a no brainer..if you want to sell.
it was , thank you, any ideas what these conversions make on a clean painted car?
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:11 pm

Put it for sale on Stanceworks, it'll sell on there. :D
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:14 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Put it for sale on Stanceworks,they will talk about it a lot and rim you silly while making excuses why they are penniless and cannot buy it, man :D
It's a foooking lifestyle ! :)
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:18 pm

verde wrote:Taylor how about even a wrap? As stating picking that brown, as nice as it is might be a dodgy move. If you decide to give it a paint I would suggest something safe your average schmuck will want.

Failing this, id post up on some of the more specialised sites and even pages like ChizFab and Jumanji nights

If I could afford it I woulda taken it off you
cheers mate, a wrap is something i cant do myself and would cost to much, and in that brown i prob wouldn't sell it and a divorce would be on the table lol,, im going on holiday for a few weeks tomo so ill sort it out when i get back,,ill do a photo shoot as she is and then another with what ever i end up doing to it, iv still got your decals so ill get them on for the shoot,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:21 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Put it for sale on Stanceworks, it'll sell on there. :D
i would but they dont let you post adverts unless you have been on there a while,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:21 pm

Why do all stancec0cks and ratc0cks have this stupid haters going to hate attitude when they are given solid advise
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:23 pm

taylorstattoo wrote:
iDreamBeemer wrote:
taylorstattoo wrote:I know what you mean, constructive criticism is always welcome, but when it comes from the same old turd gang that don't except anything thats not standard anyway it makes me laugh, I could do a full respray this time of year no probs for a few hundred £'s even though taking the shell back down to clean steal would be a pain. the rust is only a light covering and not sunken in which is what I think a lot of people don't understand,
Nothing quite like a broad sweeping brush. Personally I thought mine was constructive, if you want to sell it get rid of the rust and save bother by matching it to whatever was the original colour so door linings and engine bay etc match.

If you can do it for a few quid then surely its a no brainer..if you want to sell.
it was , thank you, any ideas what these conversions make on a clean painted car?
At best you will be looking at a couple of grand but I'm afraid I do think there is a lot going against it, the mismatching seats, low spec as well as the paint isn't doing it any favours.

Repeatedly I've only seen people wanting mint original 325i 2-doors and M3s who are prepared to spend any money (and have any to start off with!).

Peeps on here only want to spend money on doing the conversion themselves, I've only seen a handful of conversions sell for decent money and that was more pre-recession.

Some of the drift lot might like the touring, I would say your best bet is to get people seeing it in the flesh, something like Santa Pod where they can see the mods at work and can see reliability.

Unless you have to, keep it and enjoy it.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:24 pm

ross_jsy wrote:Why do all stancec0cks and ratc0cks have this stupid haters going to hate attitude when they are given solid advise
example please??? i only hate on useless input from my ink loving stalkers,
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:28 pm

taylorstattoo wrote:Keep um coming boys I love your replies,, already It seems im not so bothered about selling it and keeping it on here just for the fact you all seem to love it so much is prob the right thing todo ,,
After good replies that may not want to be what you wanted to hear but are factual.
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ross_jsy wrote:Why do all stancec0cks and ratc0cks have this stupid haters going to hate attitude when they are given solid advise
Because in their own little sub-culture they're so busy giving each other reach arounds to realise that it goes against the grain of sensibility, practicality or subtlety. God forbid that others may comment anything other than praise.
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taylorstattoo wrote:
iDreamBeemer wrote: Nothing quite like a broad sweeping brush. Personally I thought mine was constructive, if you want to sell it get rid of the rust and save bother by matching it to whatever was the original colour so door linings and engine bay etc match.

If you can do it for a few quid then surely its a no brainer..if you want to sell.
it was , thank you, any ideas what these conversions make on a clean painted car?
At best you will be looking at a couple of grand but I'm afraid I do think there is a lot going against it, the mismatching seats, low spec as well as the paint isn't doing it any favours.

Repeatedly I've only seen people wanting mint original 325i 2-doors and M3s who are prepared to spend any money (and have any to start off with!).

Peeps on here only want to spend money on doing the conversion themselves, I've only seen a handful of conversions sell for decent money and that was more pre-recession.

Some of the drift lot might like the touring, I would say your best bet is to get people seeing it in the flesh, something like Santa Pod where they can see the mods at work and can see reliability.

Unless you have to, keep it and enjoy it.
i really want to keep it and am trying to convince my better half that it will be ok for her if i put the ride height back up, lol, all the seats are back in as standard now, but she loves her golf,, dont no why a ,, lol
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:43 pm

ross_jsy wrote:
taylorstattoo wrote:Keep um coming boys I love your replies,, already It seems im not so bothered about selling it and keeping it on here just for the fact you all seem to love it so much is prob the right thing todo ,,
After good replies that may not want to be what you wanted to hear but are factual.
?? really,, some were some were not.. £500 to a 1000 qoute is having a bubble and good old pete was straight in there with the same old ink jokes,, its always the same old haters hating that i give shitt too no one else,, sorry for any confusion to any one giving sound advise
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:46 pm

That's because that is what it's worth though :?

Sorry old chap you have pitched it at the very bottom of the market and its something you are going to have to deal with. I wish my car was worth a million quid, doesn't mean it is.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:49 pm

really!!!!, id like to see you put one together with 12mot and 6tax for a grand
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