right this has to be said

[chaz_316]

At the risk of starting a small argument, I really think some people on here need to get to get of there high horse. So you dont agree with the style a car has been modified or an area that a person wants to change or try something new, so what. Is it really nessasery to be little people on here when all they want is advice. (ive seen this many times, in some form or another)
It aggravates me to see when this happen, if every e30 was back to factory fresh or jacked down on the bumpstops with big wheels then it would be a boring car, this fourm could be one of the best fourms on the net in my opinion with the guys that have all the knowlage and know how (sorry to name names) but brianmooore, ive had several problems that you have helped me with over the last 2 years and your advice has always been spot on (thanks btw ) and there are many other guys on here that are just the same.

if you dont like what you see because in your opinion it dosent fit your ideal version of an e30, then by all means give your opinion but dont be offencive, how would you feel if the table was turneg????
Even if you dont like it you still have to mostly appreciate the work or imagenation thats gone into the car.

sorry to go on abit but I think this is a black cloud on an otherwise fantastic fourm

[BEERBOY123]

Uh-oh...

I stayed out the spelling and grammar thead so I'm staying out of this one too (with this exception).

Look forward to reading several pages of vented spleen later.

[Grrrmachine]

Is there a particular thread here that you have in mind? This place has been a lot more pleasant recently, so I'm not sure what behaviour you're referring to.

The Photo Gallery has got more homo-love than an Amateur Dramatics club

[Barx325i]

it's all a cock comparison excercise, mine's enormous with alpina reps innit.

Next we'll all have to wear an e30zone uniform, and go out to play when the bell goes

[DHFiS]

The best thing to do, in my opinion, is contribute to the threads you like and ignore those you don't.

[chaz_316]

lol theres not one in particular, but over the last 6 months ive noticed it more and more , i must admit the spelling thread I believe does come into this area

I think that ive made a valid point in my opinion of course, but if you dont believe so just look at a few of the threads regaurding modifying.

another example is (or now was) steviebmw, ok he had some wacky ideas of mods for an e30 but everytime he posted alot of guys went out of there way to humilate him (and it was just that)when all the guy wanted was advice. Then to top it of a guy on here buys his car and posts videos of him jumping and crashing the car, really a great advert for this forum. i didnt agree with the direction he went with his car but i didnt lay into him for being different. it was uneeded and unjust.

if we didnt have people like that then we wouldent have engine convertion manuals because thats not a standard e30 part (heaven forbid)
we wouldent know that e36 racks can be fitted, how to retro fit aircon systems, try m50 inlets on m52 lumps. All these mods for the e30's had to be tryed by someone first.

[fuzzy]

ive never understood the statement where for some reason people should respect the work thats gone into it even if it is a pile a stuck on tat.
if its scrap its scrap and if people ask for opinions on the internet they really shouldnt be surprised or offended if not everyone pats you on the back to congradulate you on your achievements.
i took a bit of stick at the beginning for puting a ford engine in mine but those people were obviously idiots so it didnt bother me.

[SHAKEELE30]

you got a link for that video, did wonder whatever happened to his car...

[Barx325i]

Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't have a better way of putting it, so without being a culprit of tis threads' raison d'etre, personally I'd give up caring, channel your energy into repairing the economy or something that actually matters, world peace, thrid world starvation, the list of priorities in the real world leaves the zone in an uncredited territory.

Without the input of those who are slightly jagged, it'd just be a sterile environment. No single entity can alter the disparate nature of a forum apart from banning perps, leaving those to sabotage, or just feck off in their own direction..

[adit]

Uh-oh...

I stayed out the spelling and grammar thead...

i have a feeling that this may develop into another one

[magpie]

no ones dissed my car, innit!

[Grrrmachine]

if we didnt have people like that then we wouldent have engine convertion manuals because thats not a standard e30 part (heaven forbid)
we wouldent know that e36 racks can be fitted, how to retro fit aircon systems, try m50 inlets on m52 lumps. All these mods for the e30's had to be tryed by someone first.

I think there's a line to draw there. When people put in new untested engines or have non-BMW wheels welded and drilled to fit, it draws posts of admiration and praise, because it's finding new avenues for both aesthetic and performance elements of the car.

But when people post pictures of their downright dangerous modifications; cut springs, massive wheel "poke", and poorly welded and bodged repairs (which is where stevie's car drew most of its ire from), then those cars ought to be highlighted; not because it doesn't fit into people's tastes but because cars are the number one biggest killers of all humans under the age of 50, and treating them as shiny toys and nothing else is a rather reckless attitude to have.

And I'll take responsibility for the spelling thread since my actions started it and my responses kept it running, so I apologise for that.

[adit]

no ones dissed my car, innit!

what, the mineral blue one? oh yes they have

[chaz_316]

i agree with all that has been said, i never said dont voice your opinion but just do it is a respectable way.

its not hard to be advise and polite at the same time guys and girls

barx, world peace would be nice but to start with a nice forum would be brilliant.

[johnl320]

The best thing to do, in my opinion, is contribute to the threads you like and ignore those you don't.

+1
This place has never changed and never will, its a public forum, people will always have disputes. Thats life

[Barx325i]

its not hard to be advise and polite at the same time

it all starts somewhere, I came on here with the best intentions. After a while of taking crap from well established menmbers (ahum chris warburton, bob_S) I just gave as good as I got, and then some & to hell with the zone image. For a long long while I purposely sabotaged threads due to the treatment I had. It's the internet.

[magpie]

no ones dissed my car, innit!

what, the mineral blue one? oh yes they have

that was made to look that way so i could enjoy kicking it's coont in more

[rh306]

..polite forums often wither, I've been on ones where the fifth columnist types have been banned. It gradually goes downhill from there onwards, you lurk more and post less, check in less often, post without expecting anyone to come back and then eventually...

[chaz_316]

so what im hearing then is that posts such as this are perfectly fine

Take a nice car and make it sh*t= even bigger tw*t

dont get me wrong people arent always gonna get along but common guys

other fourms manage it, it makes the e30 scene look poor in my opinion

[fuzzy]

yeah but you only have 123 posts so your opinions doesnt matter.
passionfords my favourite site, it gets quite heated and abusive on there sometimes and it makes for a far more interesting site.
and since i have so many posts my opinions final.

[adit]

dont get me wrong people arent always gonna get along but common guys

oi! who are you calling common?

[cecotto479]

Where's BSS325i when you need him?

[rh306]

..that thing about, 'if everyone liked OEM cars it'd be boring' doesn't quite hold true.. Check out this club in Germany:

http://www.3er-club.de/index.html

..their meets don't look too shabby

[DanThe]

If your going to wreck your car then come on here and tell everyone how great it is then your going to get shot down in flames, and rightly so, just do a search for welding diffs threads

[chaz_316]

yer that does seam to be the case fuzzy (the post number that is)

you guys can keep on justifying the need for the abuse or behavior but we all know its wrong,

you call a police officer a twat he puts you in the cells for a night, simples?

its uneeded, but obviously nothing i say will change your minds

[bab-91]

It's an open forum. Your going to get abuse if people don't like what you have done.

(Actually its quite tame on here now.)
If stevie turned up to a meet or show with his turd he would of been reduced to tears by the volume of abuse

Since we're on the topic of abuse.... MODS CHANGE THE SHINY BADGE THING YOU CUNTS

[guss]

Tuesday night and the forum is alight

[Steve-E30]

Chaz , Your shouting on deaf ears
One person wont change how it is on here
Tbh i dont think the banter and comments arent that bad
If you come on here acting a tool you know what to expect
Oh and nobody like a bullshitter especially when there easily busted
This forum is one of the better ones ive stayed on
Try pistonheads or a few of the vauxhall sites
Its tame on here believe me
Easiest thing for new members is read the rules and use the zone wiki

[suchy]

so what im hearing then is that posts such as this are perfectly fine

"Take a nice car and make it sh*t= even bigger tw*t"

dont get me wrong people arent always gonna get along but common guys

other fourms manage it, it makes the e30 scene look poor in my opinion

I stand by my statement. The car in question, at first glance, looked in nice condition, but with a rust bonnet, gay wheels, and an even gayer 'stance' - not to mention the typical scene adornments. Hence take a nice car and make it shit comment. If it was indeed a 'shopped picture then fair enough, that person has an imagination to do it in Photoshop. If it was done for real to a nice example car then the tw*t comment still stands also

[Steve-E30]

Tuesday night and the forum is alight

And beerboys allowed out to play tonight

[suchy]

Chaz , Your shouting on deaf ears
One person wont change how it is on here
Tbh i dont think the banter and comments arent that bad
If you come on here acting a tool you know what to expect
Oh and nobody like a bullshitter especially when there easily busted
This forum is one of the better ones ive stayed on
Try pistonheads or a few of the vauxhall sites
Its tame on here believe me
Easiest thing for new members is read the rules and use the zone wiki

Always has been like this, except the banter could be a bit more brutal!!
I do miss the fiery arguments/debates that used to rage for page after page, but on the other hand I'd miss the tech knowledge and comradery a darn sight more if the Zone wasn't around!!

[tomislav]

Oi danthe, nothing wrong with welded diffs, they just vibrate lots over 80 lol

[rh306]

Chaz , Your shouting on deaf ears
One person wont change how it is on here
Tbh i dont think the banter and comments arent that bad
If you come on here acting a tool you know what to expect
Oh and nobody like a bullshitter especially when there easily busted
This forum is one of the better ones ive stayed on
Try pistonheads or a few of the vauxhall sites
Its tame on here believe me
Easiest thing for new members is read the rules and use the zone wiki

Always has been like this, except the banter could be a bit more brutal!!
I do miss the fiery arguments/debates that used to rage for page after page, but on the other hand I'd miss the tech knowledge and comradery a darn sight more if the Zone wasn't around!!

..what happened to Ratch for one

[bab-91]

Shiny badge tag is still there <

[guss]

Tuesday night and the forum is alight

And beerboys allowed out to play tonight

Wtf...? That took a lot of work that mate you've just ruined it