HELP DISASTER ADVICE NEEDED!!!!

[cecotto479]

£200

So 8 hours @ £25 as opposed to 8 hours @ £30? What a rip off. £5 an hour more than "Bodger" would charge.

I doubt you'd get many people on here to do an engine swap for £200 labour, and certainly not people who are paying rent, business rates, heating, etc. etc.

[cecotto479]

Right u lot this isnt helping, I was asking for advice about clutch no clutch

was the clutch slipping? no point throwing money away if it was ok :?

Well, "Bodger", surely with an unknown engine lying on the ground, for the sake of £100, you'd fling a clutch in it? You'll see, if you bother to read, that I also suggested that he needn't bother doing that and put the original clutch on it in order to put him in the same position clutch wise as if he had repaired the existing engine.

[SimonTemplar]

I would certainly say that if you are negotiating/discussing options with someone, opening up the detail of that discussion to a wider, public group risks complicating your life too much to justify any benefit you might get from canvassing others' opinions in here.

My experience is mostly older cars, but it is no surprise to anyone, surely, that it will cost more money to restore a broken, original engine back to top standard than it will to take an unknown engine from a broken car and pop it in. Repairs often cost more than replacement on old cars.

This is really, in my opinion, a question for OP to balance as the issues involved are personal ones: some favour originality, so would want to restore the original unit, but that has an impact on budget, equally one could see this as an opportunity to put a more powerful engine in, but again at the expense of originality and this also has an impact on budget.

It will work out cheaper overall to make a decision early about how you want to proceed rather than setting a mechanic off in one direction, while at the same time pondering other options, it just unsettles the whole operation.

And guys, I know that I am new around here so risk getting flamed for this, but imho it is not cool to start knocking the prices that other contributors to the forum charge for work: that was not the purpose of the thread, was not the question asked, and doesn't help anybody surely?! And quite apart from anything else, a skilled mechanic charging a day's labour for an engine swap? I'd far rather that than pay someone £100 and worry about why he's so cheap..!! You get what you pay for, and imho it is worth paying to make sure that it is done right, whichever option OP favours.

Sorry to go into preachy mode, particularly as the new boy.

ST

[pac1982]

So it took two of you a day?

What's a fair coomercial rate for two day's labour then?

2 non mechanics who have never swapped an engine following guides on the internet may I add which I think is good going for 2 novices and the fact that it fired up first time and had no issues I was quite proud of myself”¦.











It was quite fun actually, I reckon if I were to do it again I could do it in around 4 hours an pro like yourself with all the right tools could probably do it in under 2 hours

[cecotto479]

That's it. I'm out of this thread.

2 hours labour for an engine swap.

E30 zone at its very best.

[skipunda]

You guys are missing the point, this is a business with business rates. When the car leaves the shop it has to run 100% and reliable for x amount of time. For this reason some time will be spent finessing and ensuring all wires are properly secured and that performance is as expected.

Not talking about the amount of money charged, that's up to the owner - Boyd. To question professionalism is not fair, it takes some people on here months to do an engine swap because of limp mode, cracked manifolds and whatnot.

[pac1982]

That's it. I'm out of this thread.

2 hours labour for an engine swap.

E30 zone at its very best.

but without banging on could you do it in 2 hours if you wanted to?

[skipunda]

Nah nah see we are going way off course.

I have requested to have the thread closed

I think that right now, today this is probably for the best.

Just decide whether your going to stick another engine in or repair the current one and be done with it. The owner can take his car elsewhere if he so wishes or even get some zoners involved to tackle it on his own.

As said before I'd like to see photos of this car working properly so this chap can enjoy his wedding. Today's Monday so please now go and find an engine or a whole car if that will help things move along


Between the two of you, get an update ready, anticipate any questions and come back to one of the mods, showing them this thread.

[318isPMK]

A huge thank you to Boyd Beattie cecotto479 for all his hard work and excellent communication throughout the saga that has been my m42 repair.

Some secreted previous bodging and an over engineered exhaust has made Boyd's life difficult for the last wee while but I am absolutley delighted to report my turd will be ready for collection tomorrow A.M.

There isnt a big enough Emoticon for my excitement

I will update how its driving and se if I can get some pic's up over the next few days!

I'd also like to say I've read through his negative feedback and can say that NONE of it chimes with me. AT ALL.

P.S I dont fancy him or anything before I get 'ripped' for the praise.

[kieran325]

Some secreted previous bodging and an over engineered exhaust has made Boyd's life difficult for the last wee while

Do tell.......

[318isPMK]

I dont have the ability to explain (I have zero mechanical comprehension) it other than stuff that really shouldnt have been there was.

And the Exhaust was a good job but it made it really difficult to change the engine 'apparently'

The origional issue with the car that caused the problem was a simple bit of plastic that caused the drive chain to jump and it foooked 4 cylanders and rods (does that sound like im using the right terms lol it was a few weeks ago I was told)

Decided it was best to replace with a second hand engine until money is available to properly sort out with an engine conversion and uprating the brakes

[asmith88]

good to hear, what was bodged?

[318isPMK]

It wasnt the original engine it was in it, it had an e36 m42 that was in there even though it was sold with loads of history....... relating to an engine that wasnt in the car lol

A coulple of things were used to fasten and secure things that werent supposed to be used, that meant they wouldnt come back off and had to be drilled out. which led to new 8mm studs in the exhaust I think thats right.

[320iAN]

It wasnt the original engine it was in it, it had an e36 m42 that was in there even though it was sold with loads of history....... relating to an engine that wasnt in the car lol

good stuff, glad to see the ole-turd will be back out on the roads again.. ive always and will always use Boyd for various part's & info he's a sourse of E30 wealth
i'm slightly confused.. was this the engine that was still in your car when you bought it, after i had traded it?





minus the induction filter that i had fitted for all of 2 wks

the exhaust was a custom built stainless steel system + S/S scorpion back box that i had built, if i had kept the iS i was going back to have a bigger middle box fitted and get them to change a fitting to a sleeve (where it was welded to the down pipe)

[320iAN]

this is the weld that i was going to have replaced with a sleeve as i didn't like the fact that the whole system inc down pipe were all one piece (after the system was built)

[318isPMK]

Yes same engine Ian I think Boyd was of the opion that it was an e36 m42 If he's on this I'm sure he'll correct if Im wrong.

Had the car back on the road tonight I am totally delighted!

it's sweet as a nut when giving it some beans but a bit tappy when idling in neutral. Hopefully that will settle down.

Couple subtle changes since you had it old wheel is back on new gearstick new seatbacks new ashtray cover planning on a black stereo unit.

I want to get th exhaust a bit quieter lol you're big boyracer Ian

FOOKIN SKINT NOW SO IT'LL NEED TO WAIT FOR THE ENGINE CONVERSION LOL

[cecotto479]

It had an E36 M42 engine.

I was quite surprised because when I owned it, I recollect a huge history file and I'd have remembered a replacement engine. So we don't know what mileage the engine in it had actually done.

I didn't know until I stripped out the timing case and saw that the bottom wheel had been replaced by the plastic guide as per the E36 engine. I wondered if it had been done as part of an earlier timing chain job.

Not until I was fitting the new (E36) engine that I had it confirmed though. The spigot bush on the engine that came out was correct for the larger E36 first motion shaft and not the 3mm narrower E30 one. The first motion shaft had been whirring away in space unsupported by any spigot bush.

[318isPMK]

Aye what he said!

[Andyboy]

Not until I was fitting the new (E36) engine that I had it confirmed though. The spigot bush on the engine that came out was correct for the larger E36 first motion shaft and not the 3mm narrower E30 one. The first motion shaft had been whirring away in space unsupported by any spigot bush.

Eh?

[Jos]

The spigot bearing that supports the gearbox input shaft was the e36 sized one for the e36M42 Getrag 250 gearbox. The e30 M40/M42 gearbox uses a smaller shaft and bearing that needs to be swapped over/replaced if you are using an e36 engine. If the old engine had a larger spigot bearing then it was more than likely fitted to an e36 originally.

[cecotto479]

That's right. The engine that came out was obviously an E36 one because it had the E36 spigot bush in it - doing nothing.

[320iAN]

Had the car back on the road tonight I am totally delighted!

Couple subtle changes since you had it old wheel is back on new gearstick new seatbacks new ashtray cover planning on a black stereo unit.

good stuff, when i traded it, it had a new & proper M badged 318iS gear knob..

it was the garage/traders that fitted the wrong one to it

I want to get th exhaust a bit quieter lol you're big boyracer Ian

lol .. afraid not, i have way to much respect for any car i own & i never thrash them.. even my old 250BHP "RA" Scooby or my 300+BHP Galant VR4 were never driven by me like they were supposed to be but my MKIV Supra.. that was driven side ways

hopefully you will get a lot of enjoyable, stress free miles from the car now


PS: i may be back very soon with a project/restoration E30.. they are hard car's to get out your system once you've owned them

[pacerpete]

Had the car back on the road tonight I am totally delighted!

Couple subtle changes since you had it old wheel is back on new gearstick new seatbacks new ashtray cover planning on a black stereo unit.

good stuff, when i traded it, it had a new & proper M badged 318iS gear knob..

it was the garage/traders that fitted the wrong one to it

I want to get th exhaust a bit quieter lol you're big boyracer Ian

lol .. afraid not, i have way to much respect for any car i own & i never thrash them.. even my old 250BHP "RA" Scooby or my 300+BHP Galant VR4 were never driven by me like they were supposed to be but my MKIV Supra.. that was driven side ways

hopefully you will get a lot of enjoyable, stress free miles from the car now


PS: i may be back very soon with a project/restoration E30.. they are hard car's to get out your system once you've owned them

In 2012 parlance, that picture is full of fail !

[318isPMK]

PS: i may be back very soon with a project/restoration E30.. they are hard car's to get out your system once you've owned them [/quote]

Funny enough I'm tryng to talk my fiance into getting a TECH 1 Cab Cromie like Ali ferrari's but she's totally not into it lol

[Rtaylor2208]

If your serious about buying one like Ali's mine is very similar but not as good condition.

Royal Blue Metcallic Tech 1 front and rear bumpers and spoiler, 2nd hand roof and refurbed wheels going on this week. I would say £1000 spent on it in parts in the last £18 months.

Looks like I might be selling as I'm going to be a dad in 6 months give or take so I think the cab may need to go to fund finishing the house before the baby arrives.

[318isPMK]

Ive nae money

[318isPMK]

I love my car... just thought I'd share that with you's

[Sanchez]

Glad your back on the road.

[318isPMK]

cheers mate its going back in its really lumpy when its idling but nearly there

[Speedtouch]

On reconnecting the battery or ECU, you should let it idle for at least 10 minutes to enable base idle settings to be learnt, then switch off, then take it for a drive throughout the rev range.

So, disconnect the battery or ECU for an hour or so to reset it, and try this.

[318isPMK]

Thanks but that didnt work going to hold off booked a trip to see Boyd on Thursday should hopefully get fixed in time for weekend trip to Carlisle then Manchester

[kieran325]

Hmmmm Manchester......

[pacerpete]

Thanks but that didnt work going to hold off booked a trip to see Boyd on Thursday should hopefully get fixed in time for weekend trip to Carlisle then Manchester

I highly recommend the AA over the RAC

[kieran325]

http://www.hertz.co.uk/rentacar/reserva ... faultTab=1

Any use ??

[318isPMK]

i'll take the Mazda lol