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Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:50 am

should be interesting, to get the 16x9's under the arches all the way round without taking the tyres apart I've decided to get the arches flared very slightly at the rear (as they are already partially rolled from the factory) and rolled at the front! the company come and do it at your house or place of work so i'll be interested to see the results (their website is very impressive!) no more buttock clenching over bumps or not being able to get 4 people in the car! (although I am going to raise the rear a little too.. ) :D pics will be posted this afternoon! (and then tomorrow it's off for a big operation in the bodyshop! bonnet, kit, drivers door, f/r bumper and bootlid as I'm having the spoiler off and the holes welded and smoothed!) :wink:
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:27 pm

blimey, he's done it, at a cost of £130 (£30 more than normal because he had to come down from London but I've seen these guys work and it's worth the extra), there's a lot of room now under there! (air ride? :wink: ) interestingly he also flattened the double skinned section out slightly under the car inside the wheel arch to make more room as on E30's if you go low the tyres scrub there too! pics to follow! :D
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:44 pm

Need pics :D
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:49 pm

i done mine the otherday with my 9's on the back and 90mm drop you deffinatly need the arches rolled lool, done mine the "pikey" way with sockets on a extention bar and drove the car back and forward with the socket in there (2 man job) works well, and it didnt crack any paint :D
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:54 pm

Any pics of 90mm drop on the rear? Are you on 16's also?
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:11 pm

16x9 borbet a, aprox 90mm back and 90-100 at the front when i get my adjustable front camber plates on coilovers :) its having some work done atm but i should get it back tomorrow so will post up then :)
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:06 pm

Need to see pics
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:14 pm

Plus one pictures please!
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Always wanted to use this!!

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Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:05 pm

90mm???

How many sumps u been through, but it must look good tho
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:58 pm

Made some solid engine mounts, and used hockey pucks on them so it raised it up by 15mm sump is still my original 1 :-)
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:22 am

can vouch for that 1 sump , solid mount is the way forward i dont have the pucks tho but must say im glad i made them :) and i was one of the plus 1 on this experiment just await to do mine
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:46 pm

you'll get pics tuesday when it's out of the bodyshop! sorry! I'll jack her up and you can see the grand job they did underneath! I'm well impressed and no more rubby-rubby! :) well worth doing and no cracky paint etc like when I had a go at doing it myself a few years back.. :D
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Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:32 pm

i recently got some 16 x 9 all round with stretched tyres and was thinking to do a 60 rear 40 front drop, do you guys think i should have my arches rolled at all, or would i be fine as i am.

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Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:58 pm

i need my fronts doing. the backs sit perfect but if i want to get as low as i want the front need a slight flare to tuck the rims under as theyre 9'' wide. pics asap please!!!!! :D
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Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:27 pm

i wana see some pics too
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Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:59 pm

a link to their website would be handy too winkeye
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:24 pm

:? Doesn't really show their workmanship or what they have done.
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:26 pm

VW-will wrote:i done mine the otherday with my 9's on the back and 90mm drop you deffinatly need the arches rolled lool, done mine the "pikey" way with sockets on a extention bar and drove the car back and forward with the socket in there (2 man job) works well, and it didnt crack any paint :D
90mm?! So you didn't want any suspension then?
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:26 pm

hold up.. I'll finish this brew and go jack her up.. needless to say there's no scrubbing.. even with people in the back! :D
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:59 pm

would have like to have put borbet A`s on mine
they allways look well

did you use spacers on the front wheels?
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:24 pm

Looks good bud! How much did they roll them out by then?

Interested to know more about these solid engine mounts you've made. From what? Are hockey pucks actually just that? and does it just space the engine up a bit?
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:37 pm

be very careful using archenemy as not all the people are good at it as its a franchise company and i know of a few vw dub and bmw boys that have had to get new arches welded on because of cock ups
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:03 pm

bss325i wrote:
VW-will wrote:i done mine the otherday with my 9's on the back and 90mm drop you deffinatly need the arches rolled lool, done mine the "pikey" way with sockets on a extention bar and drove the car back and forward with the socket in there (2 man job) works well, and it didnt crack any paint :D
90mm?! So you didn't want any suspension then?
its on coilovers so theres still plenty of suspention travel, (proper coilovers not Jom ones that use the std assembly up front, could go lower if i really wanted to.... quite comfortably
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VW-will wrote:
bss325i wrote:
VW-will wrote:i done mine the otherday with my 9's on the back and 90mm drop you deffinatly need the arches rolled lool, done mine the "pikey" way with sockets on a extention bar and drove the car back and forward with the socket in there (2 man job) works well, and it didnt crack any paint :D
90mm?! So you didn't want any suspension then?
its on coilovers so theres still plenty of suspention travel, (proper coilovers not Jom ones that use the std assembly up front, could go lower if i really wanted to.... quite comfortably

It can't be comfy though can it?
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Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:17 pm

I think the only way you could go lower than 'rolling your arches with a 1/2 inch socket set' is by cutting the coonts off and gaffer taping some cardboard wideboy arches back on 8O
Whens the flamer kit being fitted? :cry:
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:48 am

No flamer kit, body STD apart from the rolled arches. Stance ftw thoUgh! And dezzy it is comfortable, obviously not as comfortable than STD non lowered suspension but it's better than shocks and springs lowering... (much smoother) and adjustable stifness etcetc it's a winner
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:03 pm

I'm running 16x9's and haven't had to touch the front arches but the rears needed a lot of adjusting, including the skin of the panel that bulges out.
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:20 pm

that's possibly an offset issue.. I'm running them with 215/40 16's on an ET15 and I've had no problems that an arch roll didn't cure.. I reckon it's given me another 5mm and removed the lip at the ends of the factory roll.. they did a good job, re-sealing the roll and it looks factory! I've had a busy couple of days or I'd have bunged more pics up.. as soon as I get the chance I'll jack the car up and do it..
as for the workmanship, I went a bit maverick and had no probs at all.. that's not to say other people haven't had bad experiences..
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:44 pm

By adjusting I mean rolling, then a few adjustment taps with a hammer. I'm running the same offset (15mm) with 205/40 on the front and 215/40 on the rear. 70mm front drop and 50mm rear drop on springs and I've already worn through one sump. Engine raise is next...
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