60/40 whats it like to live with?

[Cypriotgeeza]

Ok soon is time for my suspension overhaul and im also considering getting myself some springs to lower it,

Now on here Ive seen alot of people go for 60F/40R for both looks and handling benefits..

just wondering if 60mm drop is a bit much for a car with the sump so low?

If anyone has any dropped in this way could you give me some pros and cons please? or anyone who has a different set-up your advice is welcomed!

Thanx in advance for the replies peeps

[Topblag]

are you talking about a cabby, a 2 door or one of the disgusting 4 door variants ?

Last person I knew with a 60mm front drop on a cab lost his sump on a pothole and it cost him a new engine.

[Cypriotgeeza]

mine is a 318is (in my sig pic) yea which is why i was considering a 40mm drop all round..

[Stu_Bee]

I have 70/50 on 16" rims and it's taken about 6 months to wear through the sump. It only catches on narrow country lanes where the middle of the road is high.

[oldroydsr4]

My touring is approx 80mm front 50mm rear on coilovers. The sump sits about 40mm off the road (engine has been lifted for more clearance) , however to avoid any nasty sump incidents I have created a sump guard out of 3mm steel, now I have no concerns.

60mm drop should be no problem at all.

[Morat]

Am I wrong or is the M42 sump lower than the M20?

[daimlerman]

Am I wrong or is the M42 sump lower than the M20?

Either way,the advice above regarding a 3mm sump guard should be taken on board!

[E30BeemerLad]

you shouldn't have problems with sump clearance on a 60mm front drop unless you are running on rubber band profile tyres.

Generally though, you are going to start to compromise the ride quality once you go beyond a 40mm drop. A 60 drop defo looks better, but a 40 would leave you with a better feeling car IMO.

I'm on 55 drop at the front and I am changing to a 40 drop as soon as I can be arsed to pull the front struts off.

[Rav335uk]

GO GANGSTA RIDER!!!!

[Simon13]

its fine if you are aware when driving, certainly won't get stuck anywhere unless you have a big low front spoiler of some sort

[A18RPF]

I have had no problems with a 60/40 drop on my is, except once when having to drive through a huge pothole the width of the road. But if you're careful the sump can be kept out of trouble

[asmith88]

mine is 60/40, and i have had no problems, however i pull up on a kerb at the front of my house, and only just notice that the sump is literally, brushing the moss,

my engine has been lifted slightly as well

[Green]

I can just fit a can of pepsi under my sump, had two incidents one where I hit a manhole cover that was pretruding the ground. The other when a garage drove it too fast over a brake tester.
Although I've never really had any normal day to day issues, apart from driving on some really poor roads.

[Cypriotgeeza]

thanx for all the advice guys! (especially you Rav! lol)

hmm i may just go for a 40mm all round for now then if i feel brave enough drop the front some more..

[E30BeemerLad]

Go for 40mm drop and if you want some more at the front you can fit E90 front drop hats and it will bring the front down 15mm whilst still giving a compliant ride

[Brianmoooore]

Now on here Ive seen alot of people go for 60F/40R for both looks and handling benefits..

A 'look', of a type, you may get, but there certainly won't be any handling benefits with this kind of crude lowering.

[Cypriotgeeza]

Now on here Ive seen alot of people go for 60F/40R for both looks and handling benefits..

A 'look', of a type, you may get, but there certainly won't be any handling benefits with this kind of crude lowering.

haha@ crude lowering

yep i think i have made my mind up of a 40mm drop all around..and e30beemerlad do you know how much them top hats cost? thanx

[TDSCHRIS]

I've got a 60/40 drop on my cab with 17" wheels and occassionly if pulling away on lock on and incline rub the arches

Apart from that alls well it's been like it for over two years now without any trouble besides wearing rear tyres

[pacerpete]

Now on here Ive seen alot of people go for 60F/40R for both looks and handling benefits..

A 'look', of a type, you may get, but there certainly won't be any handling benefits with this kind of crude lowering.

+1

The 'look' is not considered a good one either, except amongst fellow 'unterhench' types

[Jhonno]

60/40 with shit dampers, soft springs will be a nightmare, kill your sump in no time and will handle like crap..

[bridgemond]

I had a 40mm drop with shite stock shocks and it was a nightmare. I have a 60mm drop with billy b8's now and it is fine

[Cypriotgeeza]

im apreciating all this advice guys! thanx alot!

ok would anyone mind putting up pics of their prefered lowering style ?

[Rav335uk]

What about doing this instead.

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[Brianmoooore]

"preferred lowering style" is to raise the suspension mounting points in the body, so as to keep the geometry correct. Effectively lowering the body on the chassis.

[cypriot_boy_2k7]

dont do it, ive got 60/40 pillow humps are a no, unless i use them as a full hump

[Cypriotgeeza]

What about doing this instead.

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hahaha thats exactly what I've been looking for Rav!!

[Rav335uk]

Choose your different height whenever

[Cypriotgeeza]

dont do it, ive got 60/40 pillow humps are a no, unless i use them as a full hump

yea man im being put off by a 60mm drop on the front after some of these horror stories lol

[Cypriotgeeza]

Choose your different height whenever

my thoughts exactly..plus i will look right at home playing Dr Dre and snoop dogg down my highstreet!

[GDBN]

I had the H&R 60/40 on my cab ... lost my front valance twice and the exhaust used to hit speed bumps. Now have the Eibach 40mm springs and everything is fine.

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[Cypriotgeeza]

can you get 40mm eibach springs on their own? I've heard they only come in 35mm

will prob be a choice between them two companies though

[DavieP]

I've had a 60/40 H&R cup kit (205.55.15 tyres not rubber bands) on mine for a couple of years now and apart from a minor scrape to the iS lip (caused by going from a very steeply inclined driveway onto the road) I've had no problems at all. OK so I don't go haring over speed humps or aim for pot-holes at speed, but then it's mad to do that anyway. It handles extremely well, there's virtually no compromise in drive quality and it looks just right.

[Rtaylor2208]

are you talking about a cabby, a 2 door or one of the disgusting 4 door variants ?

Last person I knew with a 60mm front drop on a cab lost his sump on a pothole and it cost him a new engine.

I am now the proud owner of said cab, and have took the ridiculous springs back off and replaced with -30 and even at that its still low but way more drivable.

[Cypriotgeeza]

I've had a 60/40 H&R cup kit (205.55.15 tyres not rubber bands) on mine for a couple of years now and apart from a minor scrape to the iS lip (caused by going from a very steeply inclined driveway onto the road) I've had no problems at all. OK so I don't go haring over speed humps or aim for pot-holes at speed, but then it's mad to do that anyway. It handles extremely well, there's virtually no compromise in drive quality and it looks just right.

Hmm not bad! Have you got an IS aswell?