Sorry checking the website on my phone and only saw the latest comment, I'll drop you a PM
Know anyone in Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey that'll fit an M50?
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SpencerLavery
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Hi Simon,
Sorry checking the website on my phone and only saw the latest comment, I'll drop you a PM
Sorry checking the website on my phone and only saw the latest comment, I'll drop you a PM
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Telling people what you're not prepared to pay is supposed to stop people wasting my time. I love it when my clients have a budget, it makes it a lot easier to decide whether or not to take the project on.
Starting to wonder why I'm even explaining myself on here now, seems like you all just fancy winding me up. Is this the general attitude here because I can't be arsed with this
Starting to wonder why I'm even explaining myself on here now, seems like you all just fancy winding me up. Is this the general attitude here because I can't be arsed with this
The thing is no on on there knows you from adam so when you start laying the law down and not listening to people who have been there and done it, It course's people to think your a waist of there time.
I havedone this swap 3 times from egine out to in and back out again.
I have also attempted to build a custom built 3.0lt M50 which i had to have corrected as i wasnt up to the job
Iyts noe a custom M52B30 but believe me its alot more cost effective to get someone who knows what they ar doing to do it first time round
I havedone this swap 3 times from egine out to in and back out again.
I have also attempted to build a custom built 3.0lt M50 which i had to have corrected as i wasnt up to the job
Iyts noe a custom M52B30 but believe me its alot more cost effective to get someone who knows what they ar doing to do it first time round

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I think you'll find I DID listen to what you had to say. Being that you were one of about 2 people who have replied that have actually done this swap.
No I'm not going to listen to some bloke who wants to go on about rust on body panels and I'm not going to listen to some muppet who thinks because his time is charged at £750/day he's important and should 'educate' me on the way of the world. I've seen both of their posts in the past, they like to rant at length and argue about nothing. My only mistake was not to ignore them completely.
Anyway, if Dezzy you say this should cost me £800 or more from even a weekend mechanic, then I will listen and adjust my expectations.
I am not really the man to ask tbh.
I am not local to you and couldnt be ar5ed to do one for someone else as i am sick for pulling engines out of these turds!
What i would say is its alot of work to do in a weekend!
Half a day to gut your car, Half a day to build up the engine and box your going to use including swapping fly and clutch starter etc.
Then enigne and box back in with the 5 series mounts and e36 arms then conecting your rack and gearleaver and loom. Exhaust manifolds, prop and if your changing diff?
That to me is worth alot more that £500 but people might be will to do it for that.
I am not local to you and couldnt be ar5ed to do one for someone else as i am sick for pulling engines out of these turds!
What i would say is its alot of work to do in a weekend!
Half a day to gut your car, Half a day to build up the engine and box your going to use including swapping fly and clutch starter etc.
Then enigne and box back in with the 5 series mounts and e36 arms then conecting your rack and gearleaver and loom. Exhaust manifolds, prop and if your changing diff?
That to me is worth alot more that £500 but people might be will to do it for that.

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I'd do this for you if you weren't at the other end of the country.
It is do-able in a weekend, but is risky incase any snags are encountered. It is also dependant on you having absolutely everything.
It is do-able in a weekend, but is risky incase any snags are encountered. It is also dependant on you having absolutely everything.
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Bloody hell, everyone must be minted on here if they're sniffing at £250/day take home, that's £5,000 a month, £60k a year.Dezzy wrote:I am not really the man to ask tbh.
I am not local to you and couldnt be ar5ed to do one for someone else as i am sick for pulling engines out of these turds!
What i would say is its alot of work to do in a weekend!
Half a day to gut your car, Half a day to build up the engine and box your going to use including swapping fly and clutch starter etc.
Then enigne and box back in with the 5 series mounts and e36 arms then conecting your rack and gearleaver and loom. Exhaust manifolds, prop and if your changing diff?
That to me is worth alot more that £500 but people might be will to do it for that.
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Cheers fella, seems all the M50 chaps are up NorthE30BeemerLad wrote:I'd do this for you if you weren't at the other end of the country.
It is do-able in a weekend, but is risky incase any snags are encountered. It is also dependant on you having absolutely everything.
I will definitely have budget set aside for any snags and missing parts.
Why would you expect someone to give up there weekend off graft solid, for 2 days straight on something thats not easy and is skilled work for less?

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I suppose because I happily work 7 days a week for less per day. I've forgotten what weekends even areDezzy wrote:Why would you expect someone to give up there weekend off graft solid for 2 days solid on something thats no easy and is skilled work for less?
I guess this isn't the 'easy weekend swap' that everyone's been telling me it is anyway. My original quote of £800 was for doing it in under 1.5 days. Amount of time I've wasted on this thread I probably would have been better off just going for that.
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id be happy to pay decent money its alot work and a garage would charge the earth, your always going to get it cheaper on the zone anyways. pay peanuts you get monkeys. i really want and m50 or m30, but i need to sort the body work out 1st. good luck with it all 
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According to this thread you wouldn't think you could get it cheaper on the zone, but thankfully a couple of PMs say otherwisedjscottfree wrote:id be happy to pay decent money its alot work and a garage would charge the earth, your always going to get it cheaper on the zone anyways. pay peanuts you get monkeys. i really want and m50 or m30, but i need to sort the body work out 1st. good luck with it all
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i guess the guys that dont really want to do it are going to charge the most, its just finding those chaps that just enjoy working on e30's, theo325 done my motronic 1.3 upgrade on my preface lift a bargain at 400 quid with all the parts. i much prefer and experienced zoners to work on my car any day, rather than take it to specialist garage 
Then why don't you get one of your mechanic mates to do it?SpencerLavery wrote:
As for mechanics pay vs. IT, I'm not saying I agree with the differing costs, but average salaries speak volumes, and IT and mechanics just aren't comparable. I charge 400/day because I pay my employees £30k-50k a year, none of my mechanic mates earn that. That's the only reason.
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Couldn't agree moredjscottfree wrote:i guess the guys that dont really want to do it are going to charge the most, its just finding those chaps that just enjoy working on e30's, theo325 done my motronic 1.3 upgrade on my preface lift a bargain at 400 quid with all the parts. i much prefer and experienced zoners to work on my car any day, rather than take it to specialist garage
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They've not done an M50 conversion before, that's the only reason.Andyboy wrote:Then why don't you get one of your mechanic mates to do it?SpencerLavery wrote:
As for mechanics pay vs. IT, I'm not saying I agree with the differing costs, but average salaries speak volumes, and IT and mechanics just aren't comparable. I charge 400/day because I pay my employees £30k-50k a year, none of my mechanic mates earn that. That's the only reason.
I feel like this thread has become all about the money for some reason and I never intended it to be about that, what my initial post should have said is:
I don't want to pay over the odds to a garage who have never done this swap before simply because they've never done it before, so if any experienced zoners fancy doing it for the same or cheaper, get in touch.
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good point m8, seems to be going slightly off topic 
That's right. Your poorly paid mechanic mates DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. They don't have the required skills or knowledge......any idiot can fit brake pads to a 2003 Vectra, this is something quite different. I think you will need to dig a little deeper into your vast wealth.SpencerLavery wrote:They've not done an M50 conversion before, that's the only reason.Andyboy wrote:Then why don't you get one of your mechanic mates to do it?SpencerLavery wrote:
As for mechanics pay vs. IT, I'm not saying I agree with the differing costs, but average salaries speak volumes, and IT and mechanics just aren't comparable. I charge 400/day because I pay my employees £30k-50k a year, none of my mechanic mates earn that. That's the only reason.
I feel like this thread has become all about the money for some reason and I never intended it to be about that, what my initial post should have said is:
I don't want to pay over the odds to a garage who have never done this swap before simply because they've never done it before, so if any experienced zoners fancy doing it for the same or cheaper, get in touch.
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thats the kinda responses you want to hearRav335uk wrote:If you want to go M30 route, i'll be more than happy to do it for you.

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Not sure why the attitude, but going by your deleted post you clearly don't like me, so I'm not sure why you're replying, trying to be helpful or just trying to get your oar in?Andyboy wrote:That's right. Your poorly paid mechanic mates DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. They don't have the required skills or knowledge......any idiot can fit brake pads to a 2003 Vectra, this is something quite different. I think you will need to dig a little deeper into your vast wealth.
My mechanic buddies are neither poorly paid or inept
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Let me know.djscottfree wrote:thats the kinda responses you want to hearRav335uk wrote:If you want to go M30 route, i'll be more than happy to do it for you.i may in contact with you rav in the near future, need to save the pennies first, im a poor old postie unfortunatly

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PM on its wayRav335uk wrote:If you want to go M30 route, i'll be more than happy to do it for you.
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Both of you will always turn on the M30, but deep down you know it's a one engine swapE30BeemerLad wrote:I thought he was a harbour pilot

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will do m8, many thanksRav335uk wrote:Let me know.djscottfree wrote:thats the kinda responses you want to hearRav335uk wrote:If you want to go M30 route, i'll be more than happy to do it for you.i may in contact with you rav in the near future, need to save the pennies first, im a poor old postie unfortunatly
Then get them to do the job! Why the rush to get the job done over a weekend? Let one of them have the car in, take their time and do the conversion. Beemerlad hadn't done it before, and he did it twice.SpencerLavery wrote:
My mechanic buddies are neither poorly paid or inept
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Nothing yetSpencerLavery wrote:PM on its wayRav335uk wrote:If you want to go M30 route, i'll be more than happy to do it for you.

If you Got "Haters",Then your doing something Right!
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sorry m8, but quite clearly he wants some one thats experienced with e30's, maybe hes mates are experienced, but he feels more comfortable with guys that work on e30's all the timeAndyboy wrote:Then get them to do the job! Why the rush to get the job done over a weekend? Let one of them have the car in, take their time and do the conversion. Beemerlad hadn't done it before, and he did it twice.SpencerLavery wrote:
My mechanic buddies are neither poorly paid or inept
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Who said I was in a rush? I'm not at all. I want to work on it with a zoner because they'll be able to suggest further E30 upgrades and there's also the social aspect of it. Besides, my buddies don't 'get' E30s, they own cars like 5 GT Turbos and SkylinesAndyboy wrote:Then get them to do the job! Why the rush to get the job done over a weekend? Let one of them have the car in, take their time and do the conversion. Beemerlad hadn't done it before, and he did it twice.SpencerLavery wrote:
My mechanic buddies are neither poorly paid or inept
