B6 or B8 dampers for a 325i

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Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:22 pm

ps: i will admit it helps if you know where all the potholes are! plus, a harder ride means you can swerve round them more violently if you notice them at the last minute winkeye
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:24 pm

A pair of B8's is £227.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:34 pm

there is that. i (possibly stupidly) paid 650 for 4 and the weitec springs :eek:
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:58 pm

I have b8's 35mm H&R springs and lower top hats. The front sits -50mm and I am going to have some springs wound the same spec as the H&Rs but 20mm lower for the rear.

I have no problem with the ride. It is firm but not bouncy or crashy. I like my cars to feel quite hard and firm. I have a mod'd front arb and M3 rear.
Perfect set up IMO.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:59 pm

magpie wrote:all this shorter shox and - 60mm springs looks good but it'll rattle your fillings out on a daily basis.

boge turbo are good for every day driving maybe even better than b4's if i dare to say :duck:
Indeed. I've taken the Eibachs (35mm) Bilsteins off mine and put the original M Technic suspension back on. It doesn't handle quite as well but the ride is vastly better.
Boge turbo and touring dampers are fine.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:45 pm

Because when you posted it on my old thread about this very subject you said the B6 damper was shagged in this picture and thus not very useful in this context.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:52 pm

no i said the M-tech/boge damper, read it again. You spouted the same sh!t as the doubters on here and said we're all wrong, bilstein say this bla bl bla
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:09 pm

Now why'd you have to go and lower the tone? If you can't continue the thread because you're so arrogant as to bother with all 'the doubters' then just shut the fuck up and ignore everyone and stop wasting your PRECIOUS time with us amateurs.

Better men than you have taken time to explain further. Things never change.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:16 pm

Lowering the tone is "shut the f**k up in my book" Be honest Ratsh!t whats there to continue? People are now just stating their preferences. Your sadly confusing arrogance with the truth.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:22 pm

Andyboy wrote:
magpie wrote:all this shorter shox and - 60mm springs looks good but it'll rattle your fillings out on a daily basis.

boge turbo are good for every day driving maybe even better than b4's if i dare to say :duck:
Indeed. I've taken the Eibachs (35mm) Bilsteins off mine and put the original M Technic suspension back on. It doesn't handle quite as well but the ride is vastly better.
Boge turbo and touring dampers are fine.
nuff said :cool:
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:28 pm

Royalratch wrote:Now why'd you have to go and lower the tone? If you can't continue the thread because you're so arrogant as to bother with all 'the doubters' then just shut the **** up and ignore everyone and stop wasting your PRECIOUS time with us amateurs.

Better men than you have taken time to explain further. Things never change.
Its been explained time and time again but you still doubt what we are telling you, yet we have bought the dampers, fitted them to our cars and drove with the bloody things!
Unless you have had the dampers yourself there is nothing more to say about your 'doubting' other than it is spam...
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:27 am

Because the manufacturer says otherwise, as do many other resellers who have been selling large amounts of these parts for years.

Thus, enough confusion exists to warrant further discussion with you bunch of Pit Lane wannabes. So engage the thread in the correct manner or simply stay out of it if it so pains you to elaborate.

Nothing but arrogance and impatience from the same usual chumps.
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:33 am

The resellers copy the blurb from manufacturer.

With a CSV or excel file, 2 hours later, you have the whole of the manufacturers product on your own website.

So if the manufacturer is wrong or misleading, guess what happens.
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:49 am

My opinion is that the Bilstein website is very midleading and it's no wonder there is so much confusion. For example it says that you can get 45mm struts - not on any 325i BMW ever made. My choice would be either B6 with M Technics from Euros, or just order 325i Sport Billies from BMW - you know the latter are going to be the right ones. Whoever does them at the best price - and that's often BMW. ECP don't do any favours on Bilstein prices and I bet Cotswold would do a deal on a set.
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Jon_Bmw wrote:The resellers copy the blurb from manufacturer.

With a CSV or excel file, 2 hours later, you have the whole of the manufacturers product on your own website.

So if the manufacturer is wrong or misleading, guess what happens.
True. But they also handle and fit these to cars.

I did a ton of research and gave up on the B6 / B8 because everyone had a different answer and went with BMW MTEC again. I still have no new springs as BMW MTEC springs are shockingly overpriced and I wanted the fronts @ -35mm instead of the stock MTEC -15mm but don't know if that would be okay with the MTEC damper.
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:04 pm

Royalratch wrote:Because the manufacturer says otherwise, as do many other resellers who have been selling large amounts of these parts for years.

Thus, enough confusion exists to warrant further discussion with you bunch of Pit Lane wannabes. So engage the thread in the correct manner or simply stay out of it if it so pains you to elaborate.

Nothing but arrogance and impatience from the same usual chumps.
You can stick your opinions up your arse you f*king idiot, ive never read so much shite, its no wonder so many zoners dont bother posting anymore, im starting to feel the same way, especially giving out my free info to tossers like you :roll:
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So fuck off then? :D
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bringing your good side to the forum again today, Dan must be sheer arrogance to dare dabble with Mr. Rancid
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That was rubbish.
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Royalratch wrote:That was rubbish.
I was hoping for so much more than that. Poor response by the ratch's standards.
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I have tried all of the above shock/spring fitments ,FFS B8's are the way to go !

ratch, sadly they are no good on a 4 pot turd,
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e30topless wrote:I have tried all of the above shock/spring fitments ,FFS B8's are the way to go !

ratch, sadly they are no good on a 4 pot turd,
But are they longer shorter or stiffer than the B6 and are the B6 shorter but softer than MTEX and are MTYEC Boge or Bilstein on a Tech1 and are those stiffer than the Post Tc 1 B8 Facelift?

@ Dezzy - Quality receives quality.

I do feel the Zone is way overdue a major barny but this thread doesn't have the right ingredients.
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I am board at work guys so if you fancy a good barny today would be great for me :D
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Get your turd finished or I'm going to come up there and bum you with a rusty B8. I would bring a B6, but I heard you liked length as well as girth :)
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E30BeemerLad wrote:Get your turd finished or I'm going to come up there and bum you with a rusty B8. I would bring a B6, but I heard you liked length as well as girth :)

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E30BeemerLad wrote:Get your turd finished or I'm going to come up there and bum you with a rusty B8. I would bring a B6, but I heard you liked length as well as girth :)
Just bring the longest one ffs. I wish i knew which one to tell you to bring but cant get any sence out of these coonts on here :wink:
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Royalratch wrote:
e30topless wrote:I have tried all of the above shock/spring fitments ,FFS B8's are the way to go !

ratch, sadly they are no good on a 4 pot turd,
But are they longer shorter or stiffer than the B6 and are the B6 shorter but softer than MTEX and are MTYEC Boge or Bilstein on a Tech1 and are those stiffer than the Post Tc 1 B8 Facelift?

@ Dezzy - Quality receives quality.

I do feel the Zone is way overdue a major barny but this thread doesn't have the right ingredients.
I think you may find B6/B8's too stiff for a 4 potter. Standard Boge gas 325i Touring dampers (M Technic) would be fine with 35mm Eibach springs. Spend the money you saved on fancy yellow Bilsteins on an anti roll bar kit - far more beneficial.
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I already went stock.

I'm doing a full rebuild not just new dampers and sproings. All the pesky bump stops, rubber bits and top mounts etc. Interested to see the difference.

So -35mm springs on the front on MTEC dampers is okay - rad!
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Full rebuild - that means offset top mounts and M3 eccentric lollipops. Also, use E36 Coupe front bumpstops as these are shorter, meaning that you won't be contacting them over every speedbump. Don't bother with stuff like Poweflex beam bushes - they just telegraph noise into the car. Yuk.

I had Eibach 35mm and Bilstein B4's on a 320i I restored a couple of years back. It was just a nice drive. I put 325i Sport anti roll bars on it and it handled very well and rode so nicely. It drove like something BMW would have made, basically.
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No Polynonsense for me dude.

I already did new wishbones and M3 TCA Bushes, new ARB bushes and droplinks.

The suspension is the last bit to do. Good tip on the E36 stops.
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:11 pm

I take it b8's are like a gold tooth in the ghetto.
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:48 am

Something to get stabbed over? :) Judging by the intensity of argument a discussion about dampers have provoked I'd say... YES!

C'mon guys, it's just shock absorbers!
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no B8's can bought new but they're softer valved than alpina ones
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