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Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:21 am

What is the stuff that people use under wheel arches to protect from the elements? I'm not talking about the nasty stuff that you can buy from halfords that's like tar, but the stuff that sets solid and usually has a mottled finish - but it can be painted over in the same colour as the car.

Thoughts anyone? :)
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:29 am

Stonechip? I'm impressed with the stuff used on one of the arches in this thread
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See my comment on it on page 2 mid way down
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:40 am

That's the sort of stuff - do you know if that particular stuff can be painted over in the same colour as the car?
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:20 pm

This for the estate Daf? Your better off cleaning the arch out properly, drying it and then bollocking it with waxoil, it wont trap water like sealant does, its also a rust repellant winkeye
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:46 pm

No, it's for a pair of subframes for the MG. I'm going to get them blasted, but i'd like something a bit tougher than powdercoat.

The barge will be getting a good spray of waxoil before the winter! Along with everything in a 50 metre radius :eek:
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:47 pm

Powdercoat and waxoil FTW 8)
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:21 pm

DanThe wrote: Your better off cleaning the arch out properly, drying it and then bollocking it with waxoil, it wont trap water like sealant does, its also a rust repellant winkeye
Exactly what my bodyman said to me!
He even Waxoyled the rear windows on the cabbie after the rear arch repair....'It'll come off with a bit of thinners....'
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:23 pm

Fresh powdercoat everytime for me. If nothing else it looks the sex.

Ask that to put it on thick and it will be tougher than any paint on stone chip imo
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:29 pm

Dezzy wrote:Fresh powdercoat everytime for me. If nothing else it looks the sex.

Ask that to put it on thick and it will be tougher than any paint on stone chip imo
You reckon? I've always found it easier to strip powdercoat off than the sealant stuff. Unless it's rotten behind the sealant :roll:

Looks like I'll get them powdered then :)
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:43 pm

BMW under body sealant is a polyurethane sealer. If applied properly it will not lift and trap moisture. Stonechip is the textured finish on the sills and front and rear valences.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:15 pm

I think good quality stonechip works wonders. I just recently got mine done and the stuff underneath was still mint. Really easy to apply and gives a good solid protection.

Never used waxoil. What is it liketo use?
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:19 pm

bedumon wrote:I think good quality stonechip works wonders. I just recently got mine done and the stuff underneath was still mint. Really easy to apply and gives a good solid protection.

Never used waxoil. What is it liketo use?
Waxoil is great - very messy when used with a compressor though. It's a different style of stuff to stonechip though. Think of snot - it's very similar :wink:
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Think wax and oil :wink:
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:36 pm

Waxoyl is old tech now. Its all about Dinitrol and Bilt Hamber.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:40 pm

So how is it applied?

And what is this dinitrol and bilt hamber? only bilt hamber stuff I've used is the clay.....
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:38 pm

i use the dinitrol stuff. less mess than waxoyl and it applies more evenly and easier IMO.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:44 pm

Do not confuse waxoil with 'black' underbody shutz, shutz is fooking nasty stuff which is used to cover up rusty floorpans/sills/arches etc, basically, if you have bodged a car up this is what you use to hide it :)
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:23 pm

Have used Gravitex stone chip with pleasing results.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:49 pm

In answer to your question, Yes stonechip can be painted over. Waxoil certainly cant be painted over!

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Dont skimp and buy the cheapest stonechip, it doesnt apply well and cracks if it dries too quick which in recent weather is likely.
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Bodyline is the best brand ive used. Use it in work all the time.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:55 pm

bdx wrote:Have used Gravitex stone chip with pleasing results.
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:03 am

I text you about this earlier you plank.
Damian gave me the info so you know it's good :)
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:43 pm

Bob_S wrote:I text you about this earlier you plank.
Damian gave me the info so you know it's good :)
Yep you did - but either your spelling is poo or you can't get it on the open market! :P
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