Drifting problem

[Boyraceruk]

Learn somewhere safe, Santa Pod is ideal plus there'll be people there with bigger engined cars/welded diffs you can maybe have a try in too. That's the fastest way to improve your drift.

[Joshy]

A fairly cheapo rwd car designed in the 70's is not about to win a nimbleness competition with a similarly cheap fwd car (that actually costs less to manufacture - hence its price) thats been designed in the last 5 years !!!

Round a track with a ton of mods is a different question, but one which can easily last forever as mods are just dependent on budget rather than whats best !!

In general RWD cars offer a better performance envelope and balance, but comparing a 316 and a Saxo on handling is like comparing a kettle and a toaster at which is best at ironing !!!

Sorry, what has age got to do with anything? A good handling car is a good handling car, regardless of what year it rolled out of the factory, especially when we're talking about cars made within the last 25 years or so.

[yeah_mick]

Sod that !!!

Just take a longer run up, scandi flick, and use the manfoot !!!

Get down to Santa Pod DWYB days with Lex and learn good !!

If by some miracle Im there I'll happily take you out in your car and show you what I mean, although theres usually several people who will give you pointers, Lex for one !!

Hope that helps,

J.

this man speaks the truth. i could get my bog standard sideways with 5 of us in it.

nice long corner, 2nd gear, about 5k rpm, little skandinavian flick with some clutch kick and iff you go.

if that dosent get it going then your doing something seriously wrong.

[Bladerider]

Age has everything to do with it !!

Its called progress, otherwise we would all be tooling around in 2002ti's !!

[cool_ram_in]

we´re assuming the 316 is an e30, hence designed in the eighties...

Sorry to sound pedantic, and I know Im only a noob on this forum, but given that the E30 went on sale in 1982 I suspect it was designed before they started selling them, or crash testing them, or retooled the plant to actually manufacture them, or got supporting manufacturers up to speed on parts, or got board approval for the funding and final design etc etc so I suspect they were originally conceived in the very late 70's and even if they were done in 1980 it will still effectively be based on principles from the 70's as opposed to all the experience gained from the first few months of "The 80's" lol

Again apologies if this is too difficult a concept to grasp !!

Good point!

What about you dismount the ebrake spring so that it´s loose, put a longer button so you can really park when needed. Then aproach the turn fast, clutch and when pressing the clutch pull the ebrake fast and let go, hit the gas, let go of the clutch, countersteer and that´s it...

What do you guys think? I think this really works on low powered e30´s... at least on my 316, on the wet it´s a charm... that and 175/70 r14 tires a bit stretched...

[ollie_]

ive just got myself a 318i auto (not much more power and the disadvantage of spazmatic), and i can get the back end on that out in the wet

the trick with an open diff is just drive the car to what you feel is the limit of grip on the corner or roundabout, then feed in a bit more power, let it slide out for a bit, then catch it simples! in theory anyway

[Nolly227]

Just get some cheap and awful rear tyres. The ones Ive got on the rear of my iS that came with the car the treadline looks accent! slight tap of the throttle round the corners and its old school rally time

[Jhonno]

I have to be honest a 1.0litre corsa wasn't topping my list of good handling hatchbacks.

Needs moar McDonalds car park..

If you can't get an e30 sideways in the wet you are not doing it right.. Hell I could do it in the dry with my 316i Auto

Fail

[Jhonno]

cool_ram_in it took you over 7 months to think of that reply?!

[Messenjah]

my 316i touring ... approach the roundabout go round the roundabout a little dip the clutch bootfull of revs dump the clutch ... woop woop sideways fun

[ollie_]

cool_ram_in it took you over 7 months to think of that reply?!

ha ha i've just noticed that!!!

gravedigging threads ftl

[320ise]

i have to say my 316i was the most tale happy car i ever had! just turning in hard the back would start to come out with out any throttle abuse! a dab of the throttle and off it went! i suspect that every bush on it was dead and it was bought for £50 and lasted me 8 months then was sold as i knew the mot was gonna be a killer! still one of my most missed cars due to how silly the handling was!

[A18RPF]

i used to try and drift my old volvo 240, which had only slighltly more power than a 316. was pretty easy in the wet and I got to the point where i could drift certtain corners in 3rd in the dry. When power isnt on your side you've just got to throw it in as hard as you dare and keep your revs way up. not easy if you care about the car. But if you care about the car dont try and go sideways!

[Dezzy]

i used to try and drift my old volvo 240, which had only slighltly more power than a 316. was pretty easy in the wet and I got to the point where i could drift certtain corners in 3rd in the dry. When power isnt on your side you've just got to throw it in as hard as you dare and keep your revs way up. not easy if you care about the car. But if you care about the car dont try and go sideways!

My mate had the very same car. He could make it dance too. Like you say just didn't give a sh1t about it. It was a lovely shade of green with the heaviest steering I have ever felt

[A18RPF]

thats funny, you could throw mine from lock to lock one handed. I got carjacked for it. mild steel was worth a lot at the time though...

[Dezzy]

thats funny, you could throw mine from lock to lock one handed. I got carjacked for it. mild steel was worth a lot at the time though...

His was a really early one with no powersteering. The green sporty 240

[A18RPF]

I bet that took some parking!

[Dezzy]

It was a tank!

[Bladerider]

the trick with an open diff is just drive the car to what you feel is the limit of grip on the corner or roundabout, then feed in a bit more power, let it slide out for a bit, then catch it simples! in theory anyway

You have got to be kidding !!!

[ollie_]

no... why would i be?

[kniterider]

is that not just slight oversteer rather than drifing tho? i can make my car step out with no LSD but cant hold it for long (i associate a drift being able to hold the back end out while spinning the rears and moving forward under your controll not a quick kick out)

[chris_335]

weld the diff and get bigger engine or more power

[cool_ram_in]

cool_ram_in it took you over 7 months to think of that reply?!

ha ha i've just noticed that!!!

gravedigging threads ftl

Ehehehehe!

So, does it drift now or what???

[cube320]

BMW's handle very well - ultimate driving machine..

Assuming the suspension is in reasonable order, with decent bushes fitted - not the original twenty year old ones, and doesn't have a "60mm drop"!

My 325i cab is lowered 50mm. why does lowering the car 60mm spoil the handling

[N00b]

My 325i cab is lowered 50mm. why does lowering the car 60mm spoil the handling

You start to lower the roll centre to the point where the suspension can't function properly. To be honest, the choice is usually either for looks or functionality.....it's hard to get both.

[harry_p]

e30s gain rear toe in as theyre lowered which is bad for turn in, response, drifting etc