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Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:18 pm

You say a standard cossie engine is good for over 400BHP but then say with a few bolt on upgrades :roll:

I'm pretty sure a M52 or M30 with a few bolts on could do that sort of performance

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Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:38 pm

bolt on upgrades I mean injectors, turbo, intercooler and chip.

hell if you just change the injectors on a completely standard car with a chip you will see over 300bhp easily and reliably.

Im assuming with a BMW engine you will need to open it up to lower the compression ratio.
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:03 pm

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fuzzy wrote:if that goes for 9K expect mine to be up for 12K very soon :mad:
was thinking the same.
mines gotta be worth 15k if that piece of turd sells for 9k
Off topic - but I need my hubble telescope to see your avatar Mr Singh :teehee:
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:10 pm

cecotto_singh wrote:
hubble wrote:
cecotto_singh wrote: was thinking the same.
mines gotta be worth 15k if that piece of turd sells for 9k
Off topic - but I need my hubble telescope to see your avatar Mr Singh :teehee:
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You win the 'Worlds smallest Avatar' award LOL.
I wouldn't have bothered :wink:
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:16 pm

fuzzy wrote:is this the one spadge built? i remember he was doing a touring.
Don't think so, I've looked under the bonnet of his 3.5 touring and it was much neater. On the other hand that engine bay appears to be a pic of work in progress?
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:20 pm

justinreiss wrote:hahaha, guys the pics are old and its not finished yet ! i only put it up to 9k to stop people hassling me as i was selling it for 2000 before the conversion and my phone has been smoking from all the calls,the wheels were only put on while i wait for the 5 stud hub conversion,i was quoted 6000 labour alone so did it myself seeing as im a mechanic, it drives perfect and goes like a rocket,the suspension has been done and it handles realy nicely ! although i am looking for better rollbars, yet to be fitted is the strut brace,t4 stage 3 kit,braided hoses and big brake conversion,the tidy up is work in progress .ill post as and when there is something to tell! i took it to milton keynes cruise last night and got loads of abuse for being in"an old e30 shit heap"
this was coming from turds driving corsa's and pugs so i laughed it off and showered them in tyre rubber ! should have seen their faces when it lit up 1st,and 2nd before fcukin off into the distance !
are there many other guys on here that would be into hitting milton keynes cruise ?
id like to show up mob handed and show them what a car cruise should look like ! not a load of plastic crap that gets polished daily and driven rarely,,,,,,,, nice strong bmws that go like a rocket and get driven hard !
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a t4 on a stage 3? it might go fast but it wont beat mine :D
£6000 for labour alone is way over the odds. mine was £2600 for the labour but supply and fit would be about £6000 for a standard or stage 1.
good to see another in touring form though, :cool:
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:25 pm

R4N_S_S wrote:standard cossie engine is good for over 400BHP with just a few bolt on upgrades

can a standard bmw engine do that?

Dont forget the cossie engine is only a 2.0l four pot and im assuming some of you guys will come back with a 5l v8 bmw engine can do those performance figures - yes but its a friggin 5litre v8 so should be doing more than that anyway,

agreed on the engine install - it can be a lot neater
400 bhp on a cosworth would cost roughly £800 for a new t34.63 £200 for injectors, £180 for a chip,£60 for a 3 bar map sensor £300 for a bigger cooler and £100 for an uprated headgasket.
roughly £1600-£1700 to double the power from standard 204.thats not bad.
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:45 pm

That is crazy cheap compared to NA engine tuning. For that, you might be lucky and get 50-70bhp on something like an mi16. :cry:

I need a turbo. :)
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:46 pm

cheers, anyone up for a track day or a meet up at one of the cruises in the not too distant future ?
chelsea is getting bigger again im told !
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:57 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:That is crazy cheap compared to NA engine tuning. For that, you might be lucky and get 50-70bhp on something like an mi16. :cry:

I need a turbo. :)
my headgaskets been done, the map sensors there and i already have the t34.63 turbo sitting in my shed...420bhp with 400lbft is there to be had with an off the shelf chip and some new injectors.... winkeye
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:06 pm

iv seem cossie lumps up for 3-4 grand just for the engine it self when i was a ford man, before i went e30 that is,
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:37 pm

fuzzy wrote:...420bhp with 400lbft is there to be had with an off the shelf chip and some new injectors.... winkeye
8O 420 bhp.... :eek: wouldn't that require some serious strengthening of the shell?

How about putting all that power down, would it not struggle for grip when the turbo comes on boost?
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:09 pm

R4N_S_S wrote:standard cossie engine is good for over 400BHP with just a few bolt on upgrades

can a standard bmw engine do that?

Dont forget the cossie engine is only a 2.0l four pot and im assuming some of you guys will come back with a 5l v8 bmw engine can do those performance figures - yes but its a friggin 5litre v8 so should be doing more than that anyway,

agreed on the engine install - it can be a lot neater
Yes actually.. M50B25 is good for 450bhp on standard internals..
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:18 pm

ImysE30 wrote:He had this car up for sale on ebay and had over 100 pics in the advert 8O
I would hate to see the rest of the pics then!!! 8O
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:19 pm

Chase007 wrote:
ImysE30 wrote:He had this car up for sale on ebay and had over 100 pics in the advert 8O
I would hate to see the rest of the pics then!!! 8O
That was before the conversion though :)
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:21 pm

Good to see another E30 cosworth on the road.
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:29 am

jonesye30 wrote:iv seem cossie lumps up for 3-4 grand just for the engine it self when i was a ford man, before i went e30 that is,
Well i sold my 406BHP/410lb/ft Harvey Gibbs Engine for £3000 with a brand new T34/0.63 turbo.

I actually paid just over £2000 for the engine alone a few years before that second hand.

The engine new would cost over £10,000 to build so I havent done too bad.

Oh and that engine was abused for years on road and track and never missed a beat - not once.
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:30 am

whats an M50B25? not too clued up on BMW engine codes.
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:32 am

R4N_S_S wrote:whats an M50B25? not too clued up on BMW engine codes.
It's a 2.5 litre engine out of a E36 (3 series) or E34 (5 series) :cool:
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:03 pm

Imey - they are 24v and about 190bhp as standard arent they.

Are they really capable of 450bhp on std internals? What mods are required to get it to 450bhp and what is the cost of these mods?
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:13 pm

I believe so, but i don't know much about these engines.

Someone will be along shortly to tell you :)
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