20K TO SPEND

[StuBeeDoo]

If I 'had' to spend 20k I wouldnt be buying a fu**ing car!

Me neither.
I'm another one of the sensible "pay your mortgage off" people. I'd rather throw a little bit at my E30 than waste a load on another car. OK, so at the end of the day the E30 may turn out to be worthless, but it's all about minimising potential losses IMHO.
I leave wasting money on new cars to my brother - he's just bought a brand new Focus ST3.

[fuzzy]

true. id never buy a new car. its to much of a hit to take but if your looking for an older 'classic' type car then it wont lose any value if looked after so that 20G car will still be worth 20G when selling it on .
i cant do sensible. i know i should but i cant .if i has 20G to spend on a car it would be spent on an rs500 or lancia integrale or audi quattro or something of similar classic status.

[maxfield]

Sorry, but your sad old farts

You only live once, make the most of it. Spending £20k on a car and having lots of fun would be my choice, rather than banging it in a mortgage, you could get knocked over by a bus at any minute...

[beemerbird]

A pristine Isetta, and maybe a large pot to boil his head in when he realises his own daftness?

[StuBeeDoo]

I have to agree with Dan here,I "had" 20k to blow on a car from an inheritance five years ago.
I spent 2K on the Touring and used the rest to fund moving into a beautiful cottage.
Still got both

I recently inherited a canny whack.
I've invested most of it in a high-interest account with the monthly interest paying directly into my pension. Nice pension when I decide to retire, and the money's still there for me to use as and when I need it later in life. £10k has been paid off the mortgage and another £10k will be spent on having the kitchen extended.
The Touring will be getting some love over the course of the next 6 months or so. I've no desire for another car - even though I could go and splash £15k on one tomorrow and not even miss the money.

It takes all sorts.... That's why the world is so interesting.

[Cotty]

20k isnt going to buy much of a car anyway

"Cough"
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/426679.htm

isnt that another one blessed with a ford lump?

Yep but I think I could live with that. Its actually a bit of a parts bin special but the parts work well together

[DanThe]

20k isnt going to buy much of a car anyway

"Cough"
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/426679.htm

isnt that another one blessed with a ford lump?

Its even got mondeo rear lights, looks cheap and nasty because it is!

Max, I wouldnt be surprised if you spent it on white lightning

BTW did you read the story of the scummers that blew 100k in one year and are now upset because they cant get housing benefit to pay the rent on their council flat? Do you know them?

[maxfield]

I'd at least buy a 'proper' council drink, Stella would be my choice.

But if I had 20k, I'd buy an E30 M3 and spend the change on modifications

[Simon]

Sorry, but your sad old farts

You only live once, make the most of it. Spending £20k on a car and having lots of fun would be my choice, rather than banging it in a mortgage, you could get knocked over by a bus at any minute...

You've changed your tune, in the last post like this one you said you would rather put your money into bricks and mortar...

[maxfield]

Depends on the situation.

If I had a mortgage already I would spend the money on 'fun'

If I didn't have a mortgage then I would stick it into a mortgage.

[cecotto479]

The fickleness of youth.

[E30BeemerLad]

20K is better in the bank at the mo than bricks & mortar

[E30BeemerLad]

Depends on the situation.

If I had a mortgage already I would spend the money on 'fun'

If I didn't have a mortgage then I would stick it into a mortgage.

that is precisely the wrong thing to do at the moment.

If you have a mortgage then better off getting rid of as much as you can so you are not bumming away loads on interest

[midnight]

well if i had that sort of money to spend i would be looking at buying a metro 6r4, but if it had to be an e30, i would buy an m3 evo and spend the rest making it go fast

[Alex]

there was an e30 m3 on pistonheads with 20k on the clock for something like 20k

[cecotto479]

Let's get this into perspective. The E30 M3 is a great, great car, but £20000?!?! Get a grip. It's not hugely fast. It's noisy and it's uncomfortable. It's hellish on the motorway and it's LHD only. It is epic fun to drive, but there are an awful lot of better ways to spend £20000 than any E30 M3. Is the Sport Evo twice the car of the standard 195? Will you get twice the driving enjoyment?

£20000 will get you:-

Ferrari 412
Ferrari 308 GT4
Ferrari Mondial/348
Aston Martin DBS
Jensen Intercepter
Jaguar XKR
911
928 GTS
968CS
Carrera4
Any M car other than M1 and the current ones - E39 M5, E46 M3 (come on, honestly, would you really rather have an E30?), M635, Breadvan etc.
Mercedes 190 Cosworth
Delta Integrale

etc. etc. etc.

This E30 M3 stuff is getting boring. No E30 M3 is worth £20000. When are people going to see that the emperor is, in fact, bollock naked?

[march109]

^^^ hes talking sence!

[old_skool]

He is talking Sense indeed!

[gary]

Fezza 308 GTS. Thats what I'd spend mine on.

Boyd.....Be quiet for god sake you've just knocked £6k off my car with you mad rantings

[cecotto479]

The interior did that.

[gary]

Cheeky twat i like it

[pacerpete]

The interior did that.

+1

[cecotto479]

Fezza 308 GTS. Thats what I'd spend mine on.

Boyd.....Be quiet for god sake you've just knocked £6k off my car with you mad rantings :D :D

I left that out of the list because they are climbing in price quite quickly and while £20000 would have got you one when we first discussed it before Christmas, you would now be lucky to get a good one for £20000.

If you're going to do it, I think sooner rather than later, because despite your description of "mad rantings", I do think that M3 prices are "overstated" currently and are due a wee bit of a reality check. The market will also want to restore a sensible gap between the Ferrari and the M3, so if the M3 stays still, the Ferrari must go up. I don't see that happening and I think the M3 might peg back a bit with the Ferrari climbing a bit. It's all chrystal ball stuff but that's my hunch.

Your newly restored car at what I think will be the top of the market (if you get your arse into gear) will be going on sale in the right condition at the right time, should you decide to go for it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "Get rid. Get the 308."

[gary]

You lot are just jealous.......

[ShepsEvo3]

So what we saying? E30 M3 Sport Evo aint worth £20k, and a Ford Sierra RS500 is?

Go out of this country and you won't get a Sport Evo for £20k, try £30k+

I think the E30 M3 is superb on the motorway, not hellish as someone has said. In fact for everyday driving, I found it to be great. The LHD bit makes the car feel more exotic and really isn't a problem unless you are a problem driver! Plus it is actually more practical then all the Ferrari's, Porsches, etc. And lets face it, the M3 is much more reliable and cheaper to maintain than any of that other crap. Come on... Lancia Intergrale - that was only LHD too and are shockingly unreliable! Ferrari 308, now that really is a glorified kit car! I have had the misfortune to work on several.

Gluttin for punishment, but my opinion.

As for the Sport Evo being worth twice a normal M3, how come then is an RS500 worth twice a normal 3dr Sierra cosworth? There are many more changes and differences between the Sport Evo and any of the M3's than between original 3dr cosworth and RS500. Look at it this way... Break a normal M3... Interior £500-£600 ish. Sprt Evo cloth interior £1200 + for a cloth interior! Engine, normal M3 £2k, Sport Evo £4.5-£5k. Boot spoiler normal M3 £50, Sprt Evo £400-500! Now are we seeing where the value is? Normal M3 shell £600ish, SMASHED sport evo shell with ID £2k!!

Hey ho!

[Dan318-is]

Z3m/Z4m coupe with change, in white. Or an rs2, no questions

[Jhonno]

For 20k i'd be getting an M5 - e34 or e39 and doing something 'sensible' with the change... Would think about an Z3/Z4M

[Blitz]

Alpina B12 coupe

ALPINA Roadster S

ALPINA B3 s

[Dunx]

Personally Id have 2

E30 M3 track car

And E36 3.0 M3 coupe

Simple

[ShepsEvo3]

For £20k I'd buy 2 cars... an E46 M3 and a VW Golf GTTDi 150 anniversary. You can get both together for £20k - just

Both cars are HUUGGEELY reliable and practical now and most early E46 M3's would have had thier problems sorted long ago now.

But it depends on what you wanna use a £20k car for. Investment or everyday driver?

[cecotto479]

So what we saying? E30 M3 Sport Evo aint worth £20k, and a Ford Sierra RS500 is? :roll:

I never mentioned the RS500.

What I'm saying is that in the classic car market, in comparison to what else is available for the money, the E30 M3 is, in my opinion, currently overvalued.

I don't expect an owner - particularly one who has a car for sale - or an E30 M3 enthusiast to agree but I think Joe Bloggs the classic car buyer will think that there is better value available in the market than the E30 M3.

If Harry Fairbairn himself chapped my door and offered me a new M6 as a straight swap for my M635, I would chase him, but that doesn't mean my car's worth £90000, though any offers in that region would be given due consideration.

[cecotto479]

Blitz. I don't think you're buying the B12 coupe for £20000. A good 850CSi won't be far away from that and I think the poorer of the two Sultan of Brunei B12s was for sale at £45000. Last I heard, Sir Anthony Bamford was keeping the other , better one, I believe having turned down £60000 for it!

[Blitz]

Blitz. I don't think you're buying the B12 coupe for £20000. A good 850CSi won't be far away from that and I think the poorer of the two Sultan of Brunei B12s was for sale at £45000. Last I heard, Sir Anthony Bamford was keeping the other , better one, I believe having turned down £60000 for it!

Just found out the price. But a 5.0 is 25K Euro.
http://tinyurl.com/33xqdz

[pacerpete]

Blitz. I don't think you're buying the B12 coupe for £20000. A good 850CSi won't be far away from that and I think the poorer of the two Sultan of Brunei B12s was for sale at £45000. Last I heard, Sir Anthony Bamford was keeping the other , better one, I believe having turned down £60000 for it!

The only good 8 series is a sold one........

[boombang]

"Cough"
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/426679.htm

isnt that another one blessed with a ford lump?

Its even got mondeo rear lights, looks cheap and nasty because it is!

Do you have something wrong with you?

The Noble M12 is a fantastic car. TVRs over the years have used bits from mainstream hatches but are still great drivers cars. If you consider £20k cheap then WTF you doing on an E30 forum?

Come on... Lancia Intergrale - that was only LHD too and are shockingly unreliable!

TBH there is nothing unreliable about them as such.

They rust in a similar fashion to old BMWs, and the engine is still used (albeit in a modified form) to this day. Very reliable, and very tuneable.

The whole Lancia being unreliable and full of rust ideas come from a jaded rerospective view on a cult car many years on. In reality they'd show any E30 their far removed grp B heritage and leave a lot of people suprised. The never never factor is there, but in reality due to there being Alfa specialists about you're actually fairly safe with a Lancia Delta.