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Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:17 am

hi all, i currently have a 316i touring as my daily runner (its cheap to run while im back at college) but want to upgrade a few things to have some sideways fun. im looking to run a 318is engine in the future but want to sort the braking/ handling before the transplant. i know the tourings run the larger size strut inserts already so:
1. whats the better stock suspension to run..... obviously upgrading the dampers/ springs etc but is there any differences between the wishbones, rollbars, trailing arms etc on the different models?
2. im aiming for a set of h&r springs all round with uprated inserts, can anyone recommend good inserts???
3. what setups do other people run heightwise and part wise.
4. what about braking... does the 325 use larger disks/ callipers etc, is there a preferred setup on here???


sorry for all the questions but i dont want to start buying polybushes etc only to find it'd be better to upgrade to different trailing arms for example which the polybushes wont then fit.

thanks in advance.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:45 am

316 touring comes with all the best standard suspension/brake parts already fitted, apart from M3 stuff.
The M3 control arm rear bushes are worth fitting.
Leave the poly bushes to the Saxo/Corsa brigade.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:48 am

Not stalking here but why leave the poly bushes to the saxo/corsa boys??
I've just polybushed all mine on my cab m30 :cool:
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:08 am

As i understand it the E30 suspension is designed to have some flex in it (granted, not as much as 20 year old bushes will have) so fitting vertually solid polybushes will make it too solid and reduce the available grip. Good for the drift squad, but bad news for greasy winter roundabouts on normal roads with a normal driver.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:09 am

OH BOLLOCKS, thats me totally f#cked then on my open diff
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:12 am

Im no expert on suspension set-up thats just what i gather from what i have read :P

If im wrong then one of the experts will put me right (only way i will learn :o: )
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:19 am

Well most of my bushes were gone as i haven't replaced them inyears, so saw the opp to have them uograded the same time as my conversion. :cool:
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:58 am

Replacing the bushes with new OE from BMW is upgrading them - back to the spec that BMW designers, after spending millions of Deutschmarks on R & D, decided they should be.
The two 'upgrades' that you should do to the bushes are fitting E30 M3 front control arm bushes, and E46 cab. rear damper top mounts.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:03 am

Oops :cry: ,But really, are they that bad?????
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:50 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:Replacing the bushes with new OE from BMW is upgrading them - back to the spec that BMW designers, after spending millions of Deutschmarks on R & D, decided they should be.
The two 'upgrades' that you should do to the bushes are fitting E30 M3 front control arm bushes, and E46 cab. rear damper top mounts.
Hello Brianmoooore or anyone in the know can you please tell me what is the suspect part need replacing when hearing a rattle from the front wheel/suspension (just driver side) when you hit a bump it rattles :? Cheers
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Probably bottom ball joint mate :cool:
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rav320uk wrote:Probably bottom ball joint mate :cool:
Do you mean the ball joint from the wish bone to the front axle support? Cheers
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Yes, you'll need to jack it up or get it on a ramp :cool:
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:11 pm

rav320uk wrote:Yes, you'll need to jack it up or get it on a ramp :cool:


Yeah i going to get up in the air 2moro cheres mate
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:17 pm

It could also be the anti roll bar link, the ball joints should have absolutly NO play in them.
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:21 am

excellent, cheers guys!!!

thanks for all your replies!!
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:25 am

i wouldnt put poly bushes on an everyday runaround. to harsh.
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:37 am

fuzzy wrote:i wouldnt put poly bushes on an everyday runaround. to harsh.
I have the eccentric poly wishbone ones on the tourer and it's fine with the coilovers and 350Lb/in springs on the lowly 4 pot mate

When the 6 pot goes in, i'll swap to 450Lb/in fronts
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