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Hello ,can anyone help i have an s50 engine in my e30 m3,when i am driving it and floor it in say 3rd gear when i am going slow the engine sounds like it is pinging alot ,does my head in ,is there any reason for this ,thanks
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they are quite metallic sounding, has the exhaust manifold been modded at all ?? it could have cracked @ a welded joint

I assume you're using super dooper unleaded(98+ RON) ???? if not then thats the issue

If in doubt, get a full diagnostic done, inc a live data check to see if its indeed knock.

Either way, check it all out BEFORE abusing the loud pedal too much- just in case.....

to clarify, S50B30 or B32 Evo mill ?
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Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:26 pm

thanks ant it a s50 b30,and yes i made the manifold but no cracks in it,i only had to change one pipe.also i am just using normal petrol from sainsburys
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Try it on 98 ron, costs a bit more but less than a melted piston
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i will try some 98 ron in it, i just thought the knock censors would stop it from pinging,how much are your charger kits for the s50 Ant :D
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I've experienced pinking on all the S50B30 & 32 cars that I have owned. Even my S54 engined M3 did it occasionally. I asked at my dealer desk a few times and they said simply that they can be prone to it and was I using cheap low RON fuel. I've had this discussion with other S50'd owners and they have mixed reports about pinking from time to time.

I found that funky petrol made no difference to any of my cars but I've never been truly scientific about it. I'm sure that it probably does make a slight performance increase when measured accurately but it never seemed to help with the pinking at all.
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Just to add, it's always happened with me below 3000rpm when under load in a low gear. Especially when at moderate throttle using the low torque band.
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Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:17 pm

that just sounds like mine under 3000rpm, if you nail it from a standstill its fine,also if you set of in 2nd it does it alot,must be something wrong,i dont think they would sell them like this new :roll:
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all M-Power lumps are supposed to be used with high grade fuel
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Look for a big Tesco's.Mine sells 99 octane fuel. :)
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thanks for all the help chaps :)
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pull the spark plugs out too, see whats fitted :?:
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what are the best spark plugs to put in it ,how much are your charger kits Ant for my engine ,what power are you looking at thanks.
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Bosch Y5 DDC are what the dealers recommend. I have had them in both 3.0ltrs and they are fine.

Ant may recommend different plugs, moreso if it's going to be supercharged 8)
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whats your car oil skool clocks look nice
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sorry old skool :mad:
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Drop me an email on the kits dude, direct selling is not permitted on the forum, even for admin members :lol:

pull the plugs, see if the wrong ones have been fitted ???- quite common 8O
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just looked at the plugs and they are NGKR PKR7A are they right or wrong :? thanks
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orr wrote:just looked at the plugs and they are NGKR PKR7A are they right or wrong :? thanks
Correct for a 3.2 Evo engine (S50B32), but wrong for a 3.0L.
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thanks Ian what will it do having them in :?: are the bosch y5 ddc correct
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Mr orr !!..............how the feck are ya?
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not bad mate still at stagecoach
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I'm still here!..............haven't seen you in a good while mate. Hope your still enjoying that nice M3! 8)
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yes i have had it just over 10 years now,still got your sport,you will have to pop in when your around this way.
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Yeah,still waiting for that ride you promised :P .........the Sport is still with me,tucked away in the garage awaiting my days off/nice weather :mad:
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nice car that ,give me a pm next time your near and i will come and take you for a spin :)
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Thankyou kind sir :D :D
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I'm running, sorry, was running Y5 DDC plugs in the S50B32 now owned by BSS325i. They are the plugs recommend and sold by the dealer for that engine.
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old_skool wrote:I'm running, sorry, was running Y5 DDC plugs in the S50B32 now owned by BSS325i. They are the plugs recommend and sold by the dealer for that engine.
B32?
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ooops, sorry Barry, just gave you a free upgrade by mistake :mrgreen:

I meant B30 Doh!
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I must say, i have noticed pinking under load at low rpm's.
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I will get some new plugs on monday,i filled the tank yesterday with 99 ron and that seems to have done the job :o ,but i will change the plugs anyway if there wrong thank you all :)
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^ good effort dude !

told ya to check the plugs, 9/10 I see have the wrong ones fitted, NGK are best too :thumb:
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nice to talk to you the other day Ant, top man , all you zoners need to move up north :)are the bosch ones no good becouse i have just bid on some on ebay :-x
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Gotta love it.. Maintainance of an S50 on a budget.. :)
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