track day tires
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depending on how many miles-now hard use......
On the road I wouldnt bother. If you are driving the car hard enough to be really working the tyres you should be doing it on track NOT on the road. R888's are fine as wet and dry tryes but will fail on you in standing water.
If it's for track use then R888's or equivilent are miles better than any road tyre
If it's for track use then R888's or equivilent are miles better than any road tyre
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handpaper
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I swapped front and rear once - I should have swapped sides too, as it was excessive camber and toe at the rear that killed them, wearing out the insides. With proper geometry they'd have lasted a lot longer.
That's pretty hefty endurance! They are not too expensive either, will probably get some for the front of mine.
FWIW I had a048's and I thought in the wet they would be a nightmare but surprisingly they drove a lot better in the wet than any other road tyre I've used (nothing special like rainsports/T1-R's etc, but lots of other average makes). Anybody actually tested the R888s in the wet compared to high performance road tyres? I'd rather not have to have a set of wets/dry's for my drift events you see.
FWIW I had a048's and I thought in the wet they would be a nightmare but surprisingly they drove a lot better in the wet than any other road tyre I've used (nothing special like rainsports/T1-R's etc, but lots of other average makes). Anybody actually tested the R888s in the wet compared to high performance road tyres? I'd rather not have to have a set of wets/dry's for my drift events you see.
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Lloydie38
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I bought some toyo R888 from Camskill 195/50/15 (£66.50 each) as advised by many over the 205/55/15 and I've been really impressed with them on the track , even a wet track they are good but NOT standing water.
Here's them after 85 Hot miles on a disused airfield - this is the nearside tyre after taking all the weight on a clockwise circuit.
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Here's them after 85 Hot miles on a disused airfield - this is the nearside tyre after taking all the weight on a clockwise circuit.
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The Isle of Man: No National Speed Limit, No Gatso's, No Nanny State, a disused airfield track 1.5 miles long, the best mountain road to drive on...Come and Play!
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handpaper
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Errr.... www.camskill.co.uk
195/50/15 is what SELOC use; the lower profile stiffens the sidewall and gives better turn-in.
195/50/15 is what SELOC use; the lower profile stiffens the sidewall and gives better turn-in.
If you have a price for your tyres can you please post it to compare?handpaper wrote:Errr.... www.camskill.co.uk
195/50/15 is what SELOC use; the lower profile stiffens the sidewall and gives better turn-in.
R888's are awesome. A friend of mine has a E30 320is with coilovers etc he did 97 laps of the 'ring in one long weekend and they still had enough meat on them to drive back home to suffolk 
He has used them in both 215/50/16 and 205/40/17 and is very pleased with the results, better than any other tyre.
He has used them in both 215/50/16 and 205/40/17 and is very pleased with the results, better than any other tyre.
can you specify "other" tyre? My personally I prefer Dunlop DJ01. And I have driven R888's, KumhoV70 and Slicks to compare.Dan325iSport wrote:R888's are awesome. A friend of mine has a E30 320is with coilovers etc he did 97 laps of the 'ring in one long weekend and they still had enough meat on them to drive back home to suffolk
He has used them in both 215/50/16 and 205/40/17 and is very pleased with the results, better than any other tyre.
Personally I think the Michelin Pilot cup sport is about as good as tyres get (road legal of course) Around a million track day 911's and CSL's cant be wrong now can they 
However the compromise is they are brillliant, no other word for it in the dry but poor in the wet. The R888's still perform reasonably in the wet, unless there is standing water of course, then they too are lethal.
I tried the Michelins on my 205 once and reduced my lap time by nearly 20 seconds. They are that good. Of course the downside is they are blooming expensive.
However the compromise is they are brillliant, no other word for it in the dry but poor in the wet. The R888's still perform reasonably in the wet, unless there is standing water of course, then they too are lethal.I tried the Michelins on my 205 once and reduced my lap time by nearly 20 seconds. They are that good. Of course the downside is they are blooming expensive.
and they need to come in the size you need them ...northloop wrote: I tried the Michelins on my 205 once and reduced my lap time by nearly 20 seconds. They are that good. Of course the downside is they are blooming expensive.
I once spoke to Olli about that and he is convinved that despite the price they are still good value for money because if treated right and pressure set correct all the time he claims they do last a very long time compared to other trackday tyres. It's all relative in the end. Cost per lap is what counts.
I bought the wrong size for the 205. I needed 195/50/15 and a friend had 6off 205/45/15 so I used them. The wheel arch wore a groove in one of the tyres in 4 laps 
Got the pliers out and rolled the arches, job done
Not that i'm suggesting you should do that Uwe
Got the pliers out and rolled the arches, job done Not that i'm suggesting you should do that Uwe
Hi guys I'm a newbie
I need some advice on tyres I bought an ex kumho challenger car class D E30 325 just recently
I took it to donny and it poured with rain all day - the worn 2 year old Kumho V70s were lethal
I would like to buy some moderately priced road tyres which will cope with heavy rain I am going to run these on some standard rims and change my Kumhos for some slicks ( the car is not road legal) what wet tyres should I use ? I'm thinking soft road tyres
Also what slicks should I go for?
I need some advice on tyres I bought an ex kumho challenger car class D E30 325 just recently
I took it to donny and it poured with rain all day - the worn 2 year old Kumho V70s were lethal
I would like to buy some moderately priced road tyres which will cope with heavy rain I am going to run these on some standard rims and change my Kumhos for some slicks ( the car is not road legal) what wet tyres should I use ? I'm thinking soft road tyres
Also what slicks should I go for?
For slicks, speak to Shaun Chetwyn at Pro-Tyre Motorsport in Stoke as they do the Clio Cup tyre support and you can pick up a used set of michelins with loads of life in them for £100...ideal for trackdays and what I used for 'fun' days when I was saving the Kumho tyres for racing.
For wet weather tyres, you need a good wide groove that will also disperse the water but more importantly you need SOFT as you can get and probably softer than any road tyre you can buy to get the best. ProTyre may have some used michelin wets in stock too although these are harder to come by.
For wet weather tyres, you need a good wide groove that will also disperse the water but more importantly you need SOFT as you can get and probably softer than any road tyre you can buy to get the best. ProTyre may have some used michelin wets in stock too although these are harder to come by.
I always have quite a few part worn slick kicking around in 14" 15" 17" and 18" priced from £28 upwards i can even get new ones at good price. i can get my hands on 21 x 195/580/15 med compound slick including 5 new ones job lot of £750 thats less than £36 per tyre.
John
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John
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