Are german style plates legal???

[Cotty]

When i last spoketo the police ian the D or Uk etc only had to be there on all plates issued after september 2006 , So you got them before then yeah

Of course I did

Same way as my plates are original and dont need to display the makers details

[bigun]

no german plates are not legal my brother works for VOSA so they were not legal 10 minutes ago whoopie doooooooooooooo if anybody has passed the mot or not been pulled by the police FACT is you need to have a square head and live in germany to have LEGAL german number plates doubters please feel free to pop along with said german plates to your local VOSA and ask them to take a look if you got the balls

[Steve-E30]

isnt it dubmeister that are fighting a court case at the moment or something along these lines.

Yes mate

http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/siteNews2.p ... =102&id=65

[1an]

no german plates are not legal my brother works for VOSA so they were not legal 10 minutes ago whoopie doooooooooooooo if anybody has passed the mot or not been pulled by the police FACT is you need to have a square head and live in germany to have LEGAL german number plates doubters please feel free to pop along with said german plates to your local VOSA and ask them to take a look if you got the balls

i actually have english plates in a german style , as i know that german plates are illegal on an english registered car.

[Cotty]

no german plates are not legal my brother works for VOSA so they were not legal 10 minutes ago whoopie doooooooooooooo if anybody has passed the mot or not been pulled by the police FACT is you need to have a square head and live in germany to have LEGAL german number plates doubters please feel free to pop along with said german plates to your local VOSA and ask them to take a look if you got the balls

Which part of "we dont care" do you not understand.

[CraigG]

so when i even bought it to his attention afterwards he even said that it isnt illegal, as the 'D' part is an extra to any plate like people have the ferrari badge there, of bmw badge there its an extra and aslong as the palte is white at the front and yellow at the back and correctly spaced it is legal.

the banner at the side is what VOSA call a dual purpose plate, it gives the cars country of origin AND the cars registration number. having a BMW or ferrari logo here, is illegal, having another countrys symbol here is illegal. only thing allowed in the side banner is a euro flag (or sco, eng, wal flag) and the letters GB.

see the vosa regs here:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... =4709b9626

[Steve-E30]

no german plates are not legal my brother works for VOSA so they were not legal 10 minutes ago whoopie doooooooooooooo if anybody has passed the mot or not been pulled by the police FACT is you need to have a square head and live in germany to have LEGAL german number plates doubters please feel free to pop along with said german plates to your local VOSA and ask them to take a look if you got the balls

Which part of "we dont care" do you not understand.

[1an]

so when i even bought it to his attention afterwards he even said that it isnt illegal, as the 'D' part is an extra to any plate like people have the ferrari badge there, of bmw badge there its an extra and aslong as the palte is white at the front and yellow at the back and correctly spaced it is legal.

the banner at the side is what VOSA call a dual purpose plate, it gives the cars country of origin AND the cars registration number. having a BMW or ferrari logo here, is illegal, having another countrys symbol here is illegal. only thing allowed in the side banner is a euro flag (or sco, eng, wal flag) and the letters GB.

see the vosa regs here:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... =4709b9626

as stated above and i cant be bothered to type it again with regards to what i spoke to the MOT tester about.

[CraigG]

i actually have english plates in a german style , as i know that german plates are illegal on an english registered car.

having a D instead of GB makes it a german plate, since D stands for Deutschland not Great Britain

[bigun]

no german plates are not legal my brother works for VOSA so they were not legal 10 minutes ago whoopie doooooooooooooo if anybody has passed the mot or not been pulled by the police FACT is you need to have a square head and live in germany to have LEGAL german number plates doubters please feel free to pop along with said german plates to your local VOSA and ask them to take a look if you got the balls

Which part of "we dont care" do you not understand.

ask yourself you seem to have commented 6 times to this thread to my 2 because i really dont give a damm if they are legal or not

[Steve-E30]

so when i even bought it to his attention afterwards he even said that it isnt illegal, as the 'D' part is an extra to any plate like people have the ferrari badge there, of bmw badge there its an extra and aslong as the palte is white at the front and yellow at the back and correctly spaced it is legal.

the banner at the side is what VOSA call a dual purpose plate, it gives the cars country of origin AND the cars registration number. having a BMW or ferrari logo here, is illegal, having another countrys symbol here is illegal. only thing allowed in the side banner is a euro flag (or sco, eng, wal flag) and the letters GB.

see the vosa regs here:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... =4709b9626

Older cars dont , e.g. mk1 escort still with original plates , We going in circles here

[1an]

i actually have english plates in a german style , as i know that german plates are illegal on an english registered car.

having a D instead of GB makes it a german plate, since D stands for Deutschland not Great Britain

if my plates were german they would also have stadt badges and also have a white rear plate. and as mine dont have either they are ENGLISH registration plates in a german style.

[tylerma]

I am confused
are they legal or not lol

has anybody actually contacted VOSA and asked for written confirmation
rather than trying to make sense of all their jumbled up rules
not that it matters to me as I have no intention of fitting them

[Cotty]

no german plates are not legal my brother works for VOSA so they were not legal 10 minutes ago whoopie doooooooooooooo if anybody has passed the mot or not been pulled by the police FACT is you need to have a square head and live in germany to have LEGAL german number plates doubters please feel free to pop along with said german plates to your local VOSA and ask them to take a look if you got the balls

Which part of "we dont care" do you not understand.

ask yourself you seem to have commented 6 times to this thread to my 2 because i really dont give a damm if they are legal or not

fine

[Cotty]

if my plates were german they would also have stadt badges and also have a white rear plate. and as mine dont have either they are ENGLISH registration plates in a german style.

Are they English or British ?

[1an]

I am confused
are they legal or not lol

has anybody actually contacted VOSA and asked for written confirmation
rather than trying to make sense of all their jumbled up rules
not that it matters to me as I have no intention of fitting them

in sohrt Malc it is a very grey area,

[Gwynleym10]

if my plates were german they would also have stadt badges and also have a white rear plate. and as mine dont have either they are ENGLISH registration plates in a german style.

Are they English or British ?

yup illegal in north wales with PC Brunstorn (sp)

[Cotty]

I am confused
are they legal or not lol

Excuse my french, but I dont give a

[1an]

if my plates were german they would also have stadt badges and also have a white rear plate. and as mine dont have either they are ENGLISH registration plates in a german style.

Are they English or British ?

i hate smart arse's

[tylerma]

I am confused
are they legal or not lol

Excuse my french, but I dont give a

[Cotty]

yup illegal in north wales with PC Brunstorn (sp)

Well if he can catch me he can nick me. Personally I think the guy is an ass

[Cotty]

ask yourself you seem to have commented 6 times to this thread to my 2 because i really dont give a damm if they are legal or not

Sorry I dont ment to be obtuse but is the amount of time somone posts on a thread proof of how valid someone's point is?

Dont answer that, im just yanking your chain and it not usualy in my nature but I have had a few beers

[CraigG]

ian mate, your not listening are you?
regardless of what your MOT tester percives as correct please read and understand the following:

is your car registered in Germany? no
do you have a D band number plate? yes

the D band references the cars COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, since your car WAS NOT registered in Germany, saying it is, is illegal.

no number plate is allowed a fancy band on it(fancy being bmw logo, tweetie pie, what ever) only a country of origin band. if you look at the VOSA link i posted that section has NO implementation date, IE, it references all number plates.

here is the link again ian, please read the section 'Are there any addition checks on dual purpose plates?'
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... =4709b9626

[1an]

Craig mate, your not listening are you?
an MOT tester has set rules to follw which co-inside with the VOSA.

my car is registered in england.
and yes it has a 'D',

so if i go put a tweetie pie on it is it registered is it's COUNTRY OF ORIGIN tweetie pie then?

and did you not read above, i really dont care as at the end of the day i wont complain when i get a fine as i will speak to the police man and explain.

and Steve psoted the link about dubmeister, now there must be some form of big misunderstanding if it has gone that far already

[fuzzy]

so when i even bought it to his attention afterwards he even said that it isnt illegal, as the 'D' part is an extra to any plate like people have the ferrari badge there, of bmw badge there its an extra and aslong as the palte is white at the front and yellow at the back and correctly spaced it is legal.

the banner at the side is what VOSA call a dual purpose plate, it gives the cars country of origin AND the cars registration number. having a BMW or ferrari logo here, is illegal, having another countrys symbol here is illegal. only thing allowed in the side banner is a euro flag (or sco, eng, wal flag) and the letters GB.

this is what i was told as well as it can be argued that plates altered to look like german issue can be construed to be an intention to deceive or to pervert the course of justice. your national flag or the euro flag is the only designs allowed on a number plate along with the strict regulations regarding font style,letter/number size and spacing means anything other than standard is illegal whether you get pulled or fail an mot is a different matter entirely and i was told by police that unless you have really hard to read plates they tend not to bother.

[CraigG]

and if you read the vosa link i posted you will see that the MOT tester plainly isnt following those guidelines, and that is because for an MOT tester, the numberplate isnt really a big thing.

i also couldnt care, as im going to buy a set of german plates for mine, knowing full well the position i will stand with the law, i just cant decide whether i want to go legal, and get GB, or get them orig and get a D.
i was just trying to inform you better so that if you do have a run in with the law you know exactly where you stand.

[CraigG]

and, afaik dubmeister endevour to get the grey area cleared up with the use of german FONT, NOT the use of a D band at the side.

[1an]

[quote="CraigG"]and if you read the vosa link i posted you will see that the MOT tester plainly isnt following those guidelines, and that is because for an MOT tester, the numberplate isnt really a big thing.

i also couldnt care, as im going to buy a set of german plates for mine, knowing full well the position i will stand with the law, i just cant decide whether i want to go legal, and get GB, or get them orig and get a D.
i was just trying to inform you better so that if you do have a run in with the law you know exactly where you stand.[/quote]

so why argue then if your going to do it, not having a go now as i love abit of banter.

[CraigG]

as i said, im giving you the correct information, so when you try be a smart arse with coppers, your actually correct. always helps when trying to be a smart arse, being correct.

[1an]

best bit of information i have, never try to out smart a cop, always be nice and inform then of what you know and go from there, 9 out of 10 times you will get away with just a verbal

[fuzzy]

its always better to never try and argue a point of law with a copper. best option is always the ignorance routine mixed with a little surprise and sincere appology

[t_montana]

in simple terms they are illegal

they are not in the correct format and print set out by VOSA and DVLA

any new plates issued today must have the post code of the issuer, they are all liceneced by DVLA to issue number plates with the aim to regulate and stop cloned plates which were being made and have set standard.

if an MOT tester passes it , its is up them and there personal choice.

so where do you stand legaly ? you may be fined, yoy may get away with it but as far as i'm aware if you get a warning it can be logged on a data base and will be "flaged" if you are stopped for them again

all this arguing , saying they are legal with in the EU, well yes they are on a german registered car which may move about europe freely, but not on british regitered car. the '73- '01 time period and so called grey area is not so grey. anything post '73 must have white front and yellow rear plates plastic with a reflective backing. post '01 ( or when ever it was ) they enforced the new regulations to maintain a set standard with number plates. all e30's fall into this catagory , so if you want new replacement plates then you will be issued with current format ones ( which are near identiacal to what came with your car originaly but all letters and numbers have been standardised ) and have the post code of the issuer marked on to them.

as for the "D" , you may have a marking on your plates eg GB showing you country of origin, again the DVLA VOSA and police are clamping down on this. if your car is nort german registered then you have no reason to have it on your number plate.

it all come down to the MOT tester and police officer at that current time, but the law and regulation state they are not correct and you may be fined, and prosecuted if you persistantly offend.

i felt the need to post this information as it can result in some one being fine for again being in correct information

having 2 good friends as MOT testers, and 3 friends who are police officers i am in position to comment and give advise correctly

for the record, i have similar plates fitted on one of the family vehicles and it has been questioned once but in 4 years thats not too bad, however the car in question is driven sensibly by a mature driver and does not attract attention. it come down to you, your attitude, and whay you were stopped in the first place

[1an]

in simple terms they are illegal

they are not in the correct format and print set out by VOSA and DVLA

any new plates issued today must have the post code of the issuer, they are all liceneced by DVLA to issue number plates with the aim to regulate and stop cloned plates which were being made and have set standard.

if an MOT tester passes it , its is up them and there personal choice.

so where do you stand legaly ? you may be fined, yoy may get away with it but as far as i'm aware if you get a warning it can be logged on a data base and will be "flaged" if you are stopped for them again

all this arguing , saying they are legal with in the EU, well yes they are on a german registered car which may move about europe freely, but not on british regitered car. the '73- '01 time period and so called grey area is not so grey. anything post '73 must have white front and yellow rear plates plastic with a reflective backing. post '01 ( or when ever it was ) they enforced the new regulations to maintain a set standard with number plates. all e30's fall into this catagory , so if you want new replacement plates then you will be issued with current format ones ( which are near identiacal to what came with your car originaly but all letters and numbers have been standardised ) and have the post code of the issuer marked on to them.

as for the "D" , you may have a marking on your plates eg GB showing you country of origin, again the DVLA VOSA and police are clamping down on this. if your car is nort german registered then you have no reason to have it on your number plate.

it all come down to the MOT tester and police officer at that current time, but the law and regulation state they are not correct and you may be fined, and prosecuted if you persistantly offend.

i felt the need to post this information as it can result in some one being fine for again being in correct information

having 2 good friends as MOT testers, and 3 friends who are police officers i am in position to comment and give advise correctly

for the record, i have similar plates fitted on one of the family vehicles and it has been questioned once but in 4 years thats not too bad, however the car in question is driven sensibly by a mature driver and does not attract attention. it come down to you, your attitude, and whay you were stopped in the first place

i beleive all of what you have just said was already posted in this thread.

[M5pilot]

Yes 1an,

it may have been well posted before but it's nice to have one structured post explaining everything in one hit.

I certainly found his post quite useful.

Sal

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Can't believe this has taken 5 pages to say 'no', they are not legal.