What is so good about these 318is's
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They have beene30bmlover wrote:i couldnt care if a i.s can handle better! if i wanted one i would buy one. i doubt there would be allot in it with the b20's(b25's) setup and a i.s. you make them out to be something that has been touched by the hand of god!
Was going to stay out of this but agreen, how bloody old are you!?!?!
Both cars have their advantages. I've had a 325i touring and down the lanes the iS put the bigger smile on my face but the 325 was so much nicer to drive.
Given a choice i wouldn't have either engine, i would go for an M50or M52 simply because the M20 is too old hat and the M42 hasn't got enough power to worry anything remotely fast.
Yes an M20 engined car does understeer and not handle as well as an iS but on real roads/tracks with real drivers in a head to head the difference is probably not going to be that much different.
I prefer the iS as i enjoy the handling and it has about enough power to keep things interesting. Also because of the spec, price and running cost it makes sense when on a budget.
However i just can't understand how anyone can with a 320i can slate the iS as the only thing thats got going for it is the sound in my opinion!
Both cars have their advantages. I've had a 325i touring and down the lanes the iS put the bigger smile on my face but the 325 was so much nicer to drive.
Given a choice i wouldn't have either engine, i would go for an M50or M52 simply because the M20 is too old hat and the M42 hasn't got enough power to worry anything remotely fast.
Yes an M20 engined car does understeer and not handle as well as an iS but on real roads/tracks with real drivers in a head to head the difference is probably not going to be that much different.
I prefer the iS as i enjoy the handling and it has about enough power to keep things interesting. Also because of the spec, price and running cost it makes sense when on a budget.
However i just can't understand how anyone can with a 320i can slate the iS as the only thing thats got going for it is the sound in my opinion!
i think maxfield is confusing the 318is to a m3 with carbon airbox and yes i run a 325 sport and yes theres no 2.5 or 318is that sounds better than a m3 with carbon airbox but at the end of the day i would rather listen to my 2.5 than listen to a 318is playing brown girl in the ring as the timing chain happily slaps off the worn guides nuff said im off for another janaican woodbine
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come again?agreen wrote:SAYS OU OUMUG I WILL CHANGE THI AND HAT AN THESE ANTI RLL BARS AND THOSE LINKAGES SO WHEN YOU AR UNDER YOU CAR TRYING TO MAKE YOUR CAR HANDEL AS GOOD AS MINE I AM DRIVING MINE YOU ARE INFERIOR AND WHEN OU ARE READY TO ADMIT THIS THEN I WILL LISTEN UNTILL THEN STICK YOU MTOR UP YA BUM YOU MUG OHH AND YAWN WTF HOW OLD ARE YOU
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lmaooakey wrote:They have beene30bmlover wrote:i couldnt care if a i.s can handle better! if i wanted one i would buy one. i doubt there would be allot in it with the b20's(b25's) setup and a i.s. you make them out to be something that has been touched by the hand of god!
Ok but they are S14's. How about an E46 M3 CSL's sound then if we are comparing other 4pots and 6 pots?maxfield wrote:bss325i wrote:You canot be serious!maxfield wrote:6 pots don't sound as good as 4 pots...
And a road car:
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r104 ... 758e9f.flv
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6 cylinders in general better than 4's
Right here goes.
The 325 is a big lazy old engine that has bad power for its size but sounds great.
The 318iS is more of a modern design, less power but revs more and better power/litre. However it does kinda sound like a sowing machine to tell the truth. I like the sound of mine tho.
I would love to hear Tim S's 318iS though!!!
The 325 is a big lazy old engine that has bad power for its size but sounds great.
The 318iS is more of a modern design, less power but revs more and better power/litre. However it does kinda sound like a sowing machine to tell the truth. I like the sound of mine tho.
I would love to hear Tim S's 318iS though!!!
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you keep bringing up this 320??? i take it that you havent seen the '' the time is now thread'' i have a freshly rebuilt(yey its back together now!!) 87 325 lump. shes as good as in mate(well on the 11th and 12th of october)Kedge wrote:Was going to stay out of this but agreen, how bloody old are you!?!?!
Both cars have their advantages. I've had a 325i touring and down the lanes the iS put the bigger smile on my face but the 325 was so much nicer to drive.
Given a choice i wouldn't have either engine, i would go for an M50or M52 simply because the M20 is too old hat and the M42 hasn't got enough power to worry anything remotely fast.
Yes an M20 engined car does understeer and not handle as well as an iS but on real roads/tracks with real drivers in a head to head the difference is probably not going to be that much different.
I prefer the iS as i enjoy the handling and it has about enough power to keep things interesting. Also because of the spec, price and running cost it makes sense when on a budget.
However i just can't understand how anyone can with a 320i can slate the iS as the only thing thats got going for it is the sound in my opinion!
No i haven't seen that thread i'm just going on people that do compare the 2.
And since you have a 325 lump why did you feel the need to reply to a 320 comment?
And since you have a 325 lump why did you feel the need to reply to a 320 comment?
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Tims car was (still is) a fucking animal with ITBs on and would piss on a 325i without flinching. Those ITBs are currently in front of me though and will be for some time until i can get management up to scratchhammoj28 wrote:I would love to hear Tim S's 318iS though!!!
This debate is dry and has been done to death. They both have pro's and cons end of.
Time for a more intersting debate, ie Alpina or Hartge which is best?
Time for a more intersting debate, ie Alpina or Hartge which is best?
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Hehe, defo. Thats what i like to hear.Tims car was (still is) a ******* animal with ITBs on and would **** on a 325i without flinching. Those ITBs are currently in front of me though and will be for some time until i can get management up to scratch Cry
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well it was obviously aimed at me!Kedge wrote:No i haven't seen that thread i'm just going on people that do compare the 2.
And since you have a 325 lump why did you feel the need to reply to a 320 comment?
gotta get ready for work, will check this thread at 6:30am! wonder what @hit iv got when i get in tonight??? the mind boggles.
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god damn it what have i started, i only wanted a few points as my bro likes the e30 and so does the missus although even my brother prefers the noise of the 6 pot but my g/f likes the smaller engines (too powerful for her bless) if this is going to turn into a big argument please lock and delete this topic as i dont want big problems!!! 
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I'm sorry all you 4-potters, just my opinion, but however good the engine is it will never sound good.
Even with a carbon air box, titanium tail pipe and a Fender Stratocaster for a camshaft!
I.S. - great car,
325i - great car.
Ya pays ya money and takes ya choice, eh!
Personally I like a bit of straight line speed as I'm usually too scared to drive very fast around corners on the road, too many near misses to bother these days!
And welcome Viperiuke!
Stick around, it's not always bad on here and there is plenty of good stuff, enjoy!
Even with a carbon air box, titanium tail pipe and a Fender Stratocaster for a camshaft!
I.S. - great car,
325i - great car.
Ya pays ya money and takes ya choice, eh!
Personally I like a bit of straight line speed as I'm usually too scared to drive very fast around corners on the road, too many near misses to bother these days!
And welcome Viperiuke!
Stick around, it's not always bad on here and there is plenty of good stuff, enjoy!
Jeremy Clarkson wrote:...but it drives the front wheels. Theee wrooong wheels!
da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
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would it also sh1t on a 325 with ITB's and any other same mods? if not then its not a comparison worth making.Dan318-is wrote:Tims car was (still is) a ******* animal with ITBs on and would **** on a 325i without flinching. Those ITBs are currently in front of me though and will be for some time until i can get management up to scratchhammoj28 wrote:I would love to hear Tim S's 318iS though!!!
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Well i dont no of any other 325i's on ITBs (except turbo browns, which is a twin turbo so a bit silly comparing really). Nevertheless, the 325i is an outdated engine which takes a lot of money to get the power increase people want, this cannot be denied!fuzzy wrote:would it also sh1t on a 325 with ITB's and any other same mods? if not then its not a comparison worth making.Dan318-is wrote:Tims car was (still is) a ******* animal with ITBs on and would **** on a 325i without flinching. Those ITBs are currently in front of me though and will be for some time until i can get management up to scratchhammoj28 wrote:I would love to hear Tim S's 318iS though!!!
Fuzzy if i had my way i would have a cossie four pot anyway
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oh the hypocrisy !agreen wrote:SAYS OU OUMUG I WILL CHANGE THI AND HAT AN THESE ANTI RLL BARS AND THOSE LINKAGES SO WHEN YOU AR UNDER YOU CAR TRYING TO MAKE YOUR CAR HANDEL AS GOOD AS MINE I AM DRIVING MINE YOU ARE INFERIOR AND WHEN OU ARE READY TO ADMIT THIS THEN I WILL LISTEN UNTILL THEN STICK YOU MTOR UP YA BUM YOU MUG OHH AND YAWN WTF HOW OLD ARE YOU
Chill dude !
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to tell you you truth i dodnt even know what an ITB is anywayDan318-is wrote:Well i dont no of any other 325i's on ITBs (except turbo browns, which is a twin turbo so a bit silly comparing really). Nevertheless, the 325i is an outdated engine which takes a lot of money to get the power increase people want, this cannot be denied!fuzzy wrote:would it also sh1t on a 325 with ITB's and any other same mods? if not then its not a comparison worth making.Dan318-is wrote: Tims car was (still is) a ******* animal with ITBs on and would **** on a 325i without flinching. Those ITBs are currently in front of me though and will be for some time until i can get management up to scratch
Fuzzy if i had my way i would have a cossie four pot anyway
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Just to clarify i think all the e30's i have ever driven inc 335's lack 'real' grunt by todays standards so that wasn't a dig at the iS! I think for what they are they are great little carsSPADGE wrote:Having driven many e30's from 316's to 335's i can agree that the 318iS is the better handling one in my opinion.
They are like a roller skate and are great fun regardless of their lack of real grunt.
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I admit i was a bit spoilt by the sheer power of the YB's i've had Maxmaxfield wrote:Spadge, it was playing with all those Fords that makes you think they're slow.
Defiantly got to respect your Fords though.
Why haven't you built a monster of an E30 yet?
So much so that no e30 has raised a 'semi' as yet
I keep intending to build something 'special' but as yet havn't had the will power to get really stuck into anything. Hopefully this will happen over the coming winter when there are less things to distract me
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well after reading the thread regarding the guaranteed standard 325 thats puting out a dyno proven 195bhp apparently it canDan318-is wrote: Nevertheless, the 325i is an outdated engine which takes a lot of money to get the power increase people want, this cannot be denied!
Thats yet to be confirmed on another set of rollers!fuzzy wrote:well after reading the thread regarding the guaranteed standard 325 thats puting out a dyno proven 195bhp apparently it canDan318-is wrote: Nevertheless, the 325i is an outdated engine which takes a lot of money to get the power increase people want, this cannot be denied!