why do alpina reps crack so easy

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:22 pm

get rid of them to a scrap yard mate smash them up a bit first so they look so ugly that they never get into circulation again. then buy some good old 171's
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get rid, and get some proper 16s...best thing a ever did :D
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maxfield wrote:Probably because they're not the real thing :)

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:43 am

i have bk 171 on mine with eagle f1 tyres allround never had a problem with them only judder at 8o ish then goes :wink:
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:37 pm

PMSL at this thread.

"My shit-pot cheap-o wanky wheels that everyone told me would crack and wobble seem to be shit, can someone explain why?"

Alpina Reps FTW, cos they look wicked innit.

An alternative way to tell everyone you have slurry for a cerebrum is to just get a sunstrip that says "SHIT FOR BRAINS".
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:51 pm

sam325is wrote:...they are a little heavier with a better center of gravity for a start. they give the back end greater stability as well
Best quote evar. That's why F1 cars have started making their wheels from solid lead.

Sod unsprung weight, we actually all want the heaviest wheels we can find to aid our back end stability, if they crack as well, that's an unexpected bonus. :D
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ste wrote:
sam325is wrote:...they are a little heavier with a better center of gravity for a start. they give the back end greater stability as well
Best quote evar. That's why F1 cars have started making their wheels from solid lead.

Sod unsprung weight, we actually all want the heaviest wheels we can find to aid our back end stability, if they crack as well, that's an unexpected bonus. :D
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:31 pm

So far in this thread we have discovered someone who is incapable of speaking anything other than text talk shit, and a handling guru with lead lined wheels. Result.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:39 pm

Lol, This thread is pure comedy!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:33 pm

Next we'll be hearing about the positive effect that folding the back seats down has on aerodynamics.

Oh and the pros and cons of ebay resistors and pc superchargers.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:33 pm

I saw this thread yesterday and was debating to post ste's old sig quote.

"Alpina Reps make baby Jesus cry" and thats why they crack

But as I suspected, ste couldnt help but post on here as I knew he would and he came up with some more funny shit. Bargain. :)
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:54 pm

touringandy wrote:i have bk 171 on mine with eagle f1 tyres allround
Ohh the sacrilege :cry:
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why do alpina reps crack so easy
no affence but there very cheaply made!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:08 pm

I have driven with alpina reps for a year then switched to bbs 15's for a few months then I switched back to alpina reps because I feel that my car is better to drive with them on.

If someone would like to explain why they dont give the car a lower center of gravity then go ahead?

I never said that the heavier the wheels the better they are, and if you took a moment to read properly and engage your brain before you open your mouth you would realise that.

STE F1 cars are nothing like e30's are they really so your point is totally irrelavant.

I have done very high speeds many times and they dont wobble or anything, they are fine.

Its not the wheels that are crap its some peoples driving thats crap you cant just smash wheels into kirbs and wander why they crack they aren't titanium.

I dont think alpina reps deserve such disrespect, they arent that bad.

People just jump on the bandwagon and abuse them instead of stepping back and making their own opinion

Just my opinion though. :wink:
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:13 pm

How can i wheel that is bigger make the car lower?? Am i missing something here? :mad:
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:15 pm

it doesnt make it lower. the extra weight of the wheels gives the car a lower center of gravity.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:17 pm

sam325is wrote:it doesnt make it lower. the extra weight of the wheels gives the car a lower center of gravity.
You think that's going to make a difference.

Lighter wheels are much much better than heavy wheels!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:23 pm

sam325is wrote:it doesnt make it lower. the extra weight of the wheels gives the car a lower center of gravity.
But unsprung weight is the enemy of good handling? You would be better off having extra weight in the cabin and light wheels.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:28 pm

d6dph wrote:But unsprung weight is the enemy of good handling? You would be better off having extra weight in the cabin and light wheels.
Having lighter wheels means less rotational forces which will improve turn in. Would probably increase stopping power too??
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:29 pm

In terms of physics it makes sense. The more weight there is towards the bottom of the car and the less weight there is towards the top the lower the center of gravity is

Im not talking stopping power, no offence maxfield
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sam325is wrote:In terms of physics it makes sense. The more weight there is towards the bottom of the car and the less weight there is towards the top the lower the center of gravity is


:rofl: I've never heard anything like it! Adding weight makes your average car handle worse regardless of where abouts you put it!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:37 pm

Sam, unsprung weight. Thats all I am saying.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:41 pm

sam325is wrote:In terms of physics it makes sense.
Give up. Just give up now...
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:42 pm

Ziggy wrote:
sam325is wrote:In terms of physics it makes sense.
Give up. Just give up now...
Agreed.

Leave it to the engineers.
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maxfield wrote:
d6dph wrote:But unsprung weight is the enemy of good handling? You would be better off having extra weight in the cabin and light wheels.
Having lighter wheels means less rotational forces which will improve turn in. Would probably increase stopping power too??
Exactly what I was getting at Jamie.

Weight in general is a bad thing, weight at the hub is the worst type.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:53 pm

the reason why i did put this post up is bcoz i heard many times ppl having cracked alpina reps and they need welding etc and im one of them :cry: ive had other wheels in the past on my previous cars but never had this crack problem this the first time after i got these alpina reps :roll:
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:56 pm

i never started to think for a moment i was an engineer.

If you look back at my previous posts I was only trying to say that they work better for me.BBS 15's dont feel as good on high speed corners as my reps do. Im not an expert on handling,im not an engineer and i have never once said i am, i was just putting across my opinion as i have said many times and after my experiences with bbs and bk's this is the hypothesis i have adopted.

I'll stick by the my point that more weight on the bottom of the car = a lower center of gravity FACT

for eg a double decker bus with alot of people on the top doesnt have a good center of gravity where as if it had alot of people on the bottom the center of gravity would be better

r4j66 your wheels were cracked before you had them so you dont really know what happened to them
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:58 pm

yer ok watever u say
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:58 pm

sam325is wrote: STE F1 cars are nothing like e30's are they really so your point is totally irrelavant.
Ah right, thanks for clearing that up. I thought they were identical except the E30 has a cigarette lighter.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:01 pm

thats ok ste anythime :wink:
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:02 pm

Any what now?
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its my lisp lol
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:05 pm

my 1 wheel was cracked yes sam and i got that repaired and now this is the second 1, i got the lads to check it after it was loosing air and they told me theres to small cracks in it thas y the air dont stay it just goes :cry: so now i got to repair this 1, and if anymore crack im gona bin them and get bbs i thinks :D
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