This geeza is having a bubble bath

[SilverShadow]

Saw this add on the BMWcarmagazine!

30/Mar/2007 - E30 BMW 325I MOTORSPORT 1991 - Don`t be fooled this is one of very few, unabused, original Motorsports. This car is a manuel, sebring grey with 64,000 miles on the clock, FBMW service history, all old MOT certificates and extensive reciepts and history available. Full Black BUBBLE Leather interior, on board computer, LSD, E/M, E/W, Electric Roof, Cat 1 Alarm, Brand New Pioneer flip front cd player, wind deflector, 17in Alpina Alloys, plus all 5 original 15in cross spoke alloys in good condition. The one and only modification is the Stainless Steel Scorpion Exhaust from Cat back. This Motorsport is a Beautiful example, fully original car in superb condition. 3 owners from new, VERY reluctant sale £10,000 No Time wasters please.

[m3ben05]

Iv never understood why these cars sell for so much, they look pretty much the same as any other 325 cab.

10k is a piss take, that could get you a good M3 ffs

[maxfield]

10k

You could get a nice M3 cab for that much, let alone a nice M3 tin top

[Pal318is]

A 'little' over priced and this is the only photo he puts up too...


http://www.bmwcarshowroom.com/bs/ad_pho ... =18248&c=1

Pal

[maxfield]

Not worth 10k with bks on

[driftbmw]

this car was parked up for a few years as first owner got sent down, and the motor went into hiding for about 10 years.

[Pal318is]

Would he swop it for mine (which has got to be worth at least 9.5k ) and some money on top, do ya think...

Pal

[Simon13]

just as rare as an M3 cab and no rasping 4 pot racket. E30 M3 cabs make no sense

lovely things m-cabs are but not for that money, smooth 6 pot noise too

[Pal318is]

just as rare as an M3 cab and no rasping 4 pot racket. E30 M3 cabs make no sense

lovely things m-cabs are but not for that money, smooth 6 pot noise too

Just as rare as a m3 but not as expensive, surely...

Pal

[Simon13]

like i said not for that money

[Pal318is]

Oh well i'll stick with my rasping rocket then...

Pal

[Greeny]

I've seen a genuine Hartge H26 motorsport convertible going for 3 grand less than that!

10K DREAM ON DREAMER.

[tailoutcharlie]

you just know somewhere there's a kid just passed his test asking 'daddy' to buy him a fast car.

not that im being classist of course.

[m-dtech]

pmsl, stevetigers cab must be worth £16k now

mad !

[kidsinister]

This car is a manuel,

"Ees no rat! Ees Hamster!"

[BM-Bloke]

My Missus has an 04 plate hyundai Getz Diesel by this guys reckoning her car has got to be worth about £17000.
WooHoo

[B7]

As I've said before in some of my other posts, the only car I'd possible change my cab for is one of these. Yes the M3 is an option but I love the 6 pot and you don't get the s14 bills. Plus it's RHD

As for the values of these, I can be quoted that realistically I'd have to spend £6500 to get a good original one of these and knowing me, I'd probably throw another £3k at it getting it to where I would want it condition and originality wise. I gave up long ago, kidding myself that "i'll only need to spend a couple off hundred and it'll be mint!!" So I'd be up round the £10k anyway. I learnt a long time ago that "classic" cars are for enjoying. You may as well forget what they owe you, if you enjoy them the cost (to a certain extent) doesn't matter. Therefore this car COULD (at first glance), make some sense in my case.

However, it's not original (as advertised). Okay, it's a very low miles Manual and if the history checks out as correct (full BMW), thats worth a bit in itself. But for that money I'd want it on the original 2 tone BBS wheels (with excellent matching tyres) and the correct genuine BMW back box. Also I'd expect (anal as I am) the original stereo in it. The car would HAVE to be unmarked in ANY way (the bubble leather with NO wear marks with 4 headrests) and look like it's just been driven from the showroom, freshly serviced and valeted. If you look carefully at the front airdam.........looks damaged to me. He says he has the original wheels which is a plus point but what are they like? So yes, I think the guy is being optimistic to say the least.

I'm tempted (if I can find the time) to go and view it as a time wasting, tyre kicking, annoying that we all hate, just to see what it's like. It is in Surrey after all.

[bangerack]

Ive got one of those, mines only got 60K on the clock so is it worth £11K !! what currency is the man in $$$

[pnd]

DIDN'T WLN SELL ONE OF THESE FOR AROUND THE £10K MARK a couple of years ago? I wopuldn't buy it for anything like that money but I am aware of the dangers of talking prices down others evidently are not.

[B7]

DIDN'T WLN SELL ONE OF THESE FOR AROUND THE £10K MARK a couple of years ago? I wopuldn't buy it for anything like that money but I am aware of the dangers of talking prices down others evidently are not.

Yeah, WLN set the benchmark on these but then again, go to them and you buy the best, no doubt about it. They only sell totally original cars.

They've have sold a few recently such as:

A standard 325i cab on a J (91) with 75k up (not a motorsport car) for (in my mind) a huge(!) £6850.

http://www.wlnautomotive.co.uk/prodpage ... N=61915891

They also sold my favourite colour combination for a Motorsport recently. Again a 1991 70k car it went for £8750. This is the car that would have made the most sense for me personally.

http://www.wlnautomotive.co.uk/popup.cf ... p_i=365258

and another motorsport car (this time a 1990) idendital to the one we were originally talking about for £8950.

http://www.wlnautomotive.co.uk/popup.cf ... p_i=186727

If you look at every one of those cars, theres nothing different about them to when the first owner proudly drove it away from the dealer when new. THATS the difference.

There is no doubt that these are on the up and they do sell for good money but if I was going for one, WLN is where I'd head.

[harry_p]

so what makes a 'motorsport' (crap name for a model derivative thats never ever had any motorsport history..) any different to a normal 325i cab?

#10k seems silly money for something rare, but not all that special.

[munky30]

This geeza is having a bubble bath

No....

THIS geeza is having a bubble bath....

[B7]

so what makes a 'motorsport' (crap name for a model derivative thats never ever had any motorsport history..) any different to a normal 325i cab?

#10k seems silly money for something rare, but not all that special.

 M Technic body package, includes: Front spoiler (bumper one part/lower panel second part) Rear Skirt (bumper one part/lower panel second part) Side sills & Panelling (4 panel parts each side & sill)
 NO REAR SPOILER ALLOWED
 Napa-Tex woven cloth/leather central seat parts (from M5)
 M Technic sports suspension
 M Technic steering wheel with impact pad in leather (M Tec II)
 Leather upholstery for outer parts of seats, doors & side panels, centre & tunnel consoles
 Prepped for hard top
 Option of Electro/mechanical hood
 Black satin chrome (fully de-chromed)
 Body coloured mirrors & bumpers
 7J x 15 BBS cross spoke alloy wheels (5) with cross spokes painted in Nogaro Silver with 205 / 55 R 15 V Tyres
 Boot lid lined
 Graduated tinted windscreen
 On board computer
 Full exhaust catalysor
 EH gearbox on Automatic box (switable auto)

Only ever available in limited colours such as Sebring Grey, Maurutious Blue, Macau Blue, Calypso red. I believe there were a few black ones as well.

Numbers were very limited and have been published as follows. 40 in 1988 250 in 1989 250 in 1990 50 in 1991. Most of these were autos so Manuals demand a premium.

Basically it is a recognised Motorsport car in BMW's eyes. It is worthy of wearing the M badge in there eyes and if you quote the chassis number you would then be allowed to order any of the genuine Motorsport parts, something that you should not be able to do with a standard car.

[Z3I]

Very interesting, indicator for the future. He may be a year or 2 ahead of its value now, but good cabs will only be going up in value. Whilst theres still cabs at £1000 odd, buy one now and enjoy it whilst you can still afford one.

[B7]

Whilst theres still cabs at £1000 odd, buy one now and enjoy it whilst you can still afford one.

Spot on mate. Thats the exact reason I bought mine and I paid quite a bit for mine if the truth be known and it still needed quite a bit of work. However it was totally original which is always a good place to start.

[B7]

This geeza is having a bubble bath

No....

THIS geeza is having a bubble bath....

You're class you are. Excellent

[Z3I]

Its interesting how some of us on the Zone consider the E30's as just old cars that should be getting cheaper and not dearer, and originality not an issue at all, whilst others, like me see them as superb new "classics".
Good cabs of any sort, 318iS and all the special edition cars to the M3 will all be going up over the next few years, taking them out of the reach of many. Originality will dictate how expensive the car will be, not the new extras and mods, which will decrease the price. Higher prices often means the cars are looked after better with original parts too, which is good all round.
Thankfully, due to the cars excellent original build, theres plenty of cars still around to cater for all of us, drifters upwards.

[munky30]

are you implying that 'drifters' are the bottom rung of the ladder?

Because we dont care (much) about originality, but prefer to modify our cars for performance and handling we are somehow lower than you resto freaks?

(sorry that sounds a bit confrontationl, its not meant to be... But I personally believe as long as its an e30, and its being kept on the road in one way or another, be it standard or modified (within reason) it has the same validity)

[Z3I]

No, not at all, wouldn't mind another E30 as a drifter myself if I had room!

Just commenting on the way things will go on prices for mint cars. As I said, there a good supply of cars still out there for us all. Long may that continue!

[munky30]

Fair enough. I agree about the price thing, original cars will always sell for more.

I'd love to have an original alpina, baur, m3, etc...any of the e30's that aren't just 'normal' cars. And I would keep it as standard as possible for the reasons you mention. But with normal cars like mine I cant see the point in keeping it stock, its just a cheap, rwd bit of fun to me.

Though saying that, I still wouldnt want it to end up in the scrapyard so I'm sure at some point my method will shift from modifying to preserving... in fact i think it already has slightly.

[Z3I]

Munky, you're thinking of hauling a show-n-shine E30 around on that Transit rig arn't you?

[maxfield]

My dads is a cecotto and spent alot of money on it in mods.

But i think it would be worth more than a standard car.

But at the end of the day it's worth what someones willing to pay

[munky30]

Munky, you're thinking of hauling a show-n-shine E30 around on that Transit rig arn't you?

Now theres an idea!

Though that trailer looks plenty big enough for a trackday touring weapon and a show n shine alpina..... I could tow the daily driver tech 2 tourer around on an A frame behind it too.