325i Touring restoration "the wrong way around"

[Jon_Bmw]

312mm at the back, that is properly big! How big are you going to go on the front then

[jaistanley]

The fronts are 315mm * 28mm from the E36M3 Evo (ally bells and fixed steel disks).

[Jon_Bmw]

You are going to be peeling you face off the window many a time with that setup i think. You'll just need to get some quality tyres to make the most of them now.

[Simon13]

PM sent!

[old_skool]

Also, in that last photo, the master cylinder looks a little 'cranked' toward the centre of the car

Jai, the master cylinder is loose. The plates do bolt up square to the bulkhead and the master cylinder will protude at 90 degrees.

have you thought about using an Audi master cylinder

Yes, just can't find one though. I should set Maxfield off on to it really - Web bloodhound

I've not got a problem with supplying a drawing of all the bits, Jai, if I email you a scan of my dawings for the main plates and also the plates for the servo bracket then maybe Matt could get a few sets produced? How does that sound all?

Talking of the plates for the pivot assembly - here they are in rough format. I'll update when I finish them! You'll notice the pivot bracket has been sandblasted

[old_skool]

that bracket looks the part! should be nice and stiff too! spanner wielding clearance next to the m/c looks tight but not as bad as a lot of new cars!!!

i'm looking forward to each new job i have now as my little brother was GIVEN a sandblasting booth (big enough for a wheel) during a clearout at his work!!! time for shiiiiny bits!!!! just need to get a plating tank now! all your shiny bits have got me all inspired!!!

Hope not too tight, I have spent hours working on this part of the job as I wanted to iron out any niggles so I only had to do the job once Hopefully I have taken everything into consideration and it should work perfectly. Where's the fingers crossed emoticon


Glad you've got a sandblasting cabinet! I 've been looking at the yellow plating kit that frosts sell.

[maxfield]

Here we go

[buster]

Thats no good max !

It needs to be a 25mm one really,thats a 23 and im unsure it'll fit.
The 25 mm one should have 25ZV cast into it.

Dameon,
Top work there matey as usual

[jaistanley]

Buster, do you know what cars they are off? I know the guys at Sandburns VW here in Cov pretty well, I might be able to get a few (they break Audi's, Seats, Skodas and VW's). I haven't been up there for ages (since I sold my golf) but used to more or less live there!

Wont get a chance till saturday though.

Old_Skool... email your scans to: jaistanley@hotmail.com and I'll draw them up at luch tomorrow. I can plot them as PDF's so we could post on the zone somehow too if you fancy?

Jai

[maxfield]

Why do you have to be so picky

[jaistanley]

I can't get my head around the pivot assembly mods you've made Old_skool, (probably because I haven't looked at mine in any detail). Is that the part that comes into the cabin and supports the pivot mech?

Will you have to use the E34 (longer) pull bar?

Jai

[old_skool]

Old_Skool... email your scans to: jaistanley@hotmail.com and I'll draw them up at luch tomorrow. I can plot them as PDF's so we could post on the zone somehow too if you fancy?

No probs Jai, I'll wait until my daughter has gone to bed and pinch some crayons

Why not post a link to them on this thread, whatever works best really!

If you could find the master cylinder that would be a serious bonus too

[buster]

apparently the v8, 100/200 turbo.Ask Ian Haynes as he has a list of them.He did send it to me but i cant find it

[ian332isport]

Ask Ian Haynes as he has a list of them.

[ian332isport]

Hmm, looks like the forum software has resized it. Here's the direct link to the image.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4388 ... arsvk4.jpg

[old_skool]

Is that the part that comes into the cabin and supports the pivot mech?

Will you have to use the E34 (longer) pull bar?

Yes, and yes (ish)!

Jai, when that part is finished I'll do some drawings for the modified plates that need welding to it as well as the other plates. I was thinking about designing a bolt together method for those who want to avoid the welding too. We'll see how it goes.

If you lie back under the passenger footwell you can see most of it! Hopefully I'll finish it this week and post some more pics up from inside the car with it in situ.

In total there will be four plates per installation. Two for the bulkhead arrangement and two to make up the pivot bracket properly. Add a few M8x1.0x32mm studs, a longer pull rod, a new bulkhead gasket and servo gasket, a little welding and

There are three options for the pull bar. Cut the E30 item and make a spacer piece with locknuts (pants). Try an E34 item (who knows) or machine a longer end linkage. Personally I think the longer end linkage would be best, that way it can be fitted to the standard e30 bar and adjusted in seconds. The "near side" linkage is standard M10 thread, whereas the "offside" (pedal box end) is reverse cut with a steeper pitch. Therefore I am going to try and make a new nearside linkage which I think would be easier. Need Buster or Matts input here.

When you look at the E30 item you'll see there is a huge amount of adjustment, but you could probably only make it an extra 30mm longer safely with the standard links.

[gareth]

why are the M8 studs fine pitch? standard is M8x1.25

[old_skool]

why are the M8 studs fine pitch? standard is M8x1.25

Gareth,

You a likely to be right dude, to be honest I was hammering away at the keyboard and didn't stop to think. I'll run a pitch gauge along them tomorrow to make sure

My bad!

[old_skool]

Hmm, looks like the forum software has resized it. Here's the direct link to the image.

Ian, thanks a lot. I'll take that list to my local GSF tomorrow and stick it on the counter to see what they come up with.

Also, now I've had time to look throught the wiring diagram that you kindly prepared for me

Would you mind if I just stuck my E30 loom in a box and sent it to you

[gareth]

why are the M8 studs fine pitch? standard is M8x1.25

Gareth,

You a likely to be right dude, to be honest I was hammering away at the keyboard and didn't stop to think. I'll run a pitch gauge along them tomorrow to make sure

My bad!

i though it may be a typo or BMW being really antisocial for some reason

[buster]

Dameon,
let me know what you need to be made.

OT,but Ian,did you sort out the temp sender ?

[old_skool]

Buster,

I'll let you know - thanks for the offer!

[ian332isport]

OT,but Ian,did you sort out the temp sender ?

Bollox, I knew there was something I needed to do last week

I'll try and remember to take some measurements tommorow.

Ian.

[ian332isport]

Also, now I've had time to look throught the wiring diagram that you kindly prepared for me

Would you mind if I just stuck my E30 loom in a box and sent it to you

You could do, but doing it off the car leaves me open to mistakes. As well as getting the pins in the right holes, you need to ensure the orientation of the plug is correct, and the length of the wire is correct. It would be a shame if I cut it too short

I'm sure I can talk you through it

There's an awful lot of info in those wiring diagrams that you don't really need, and possibly makes it seem harder than it really is. I just like to include all the info so you know exactly what each wire is for. Both Andy (Buster) and Sandy (bigpimpin) managed to hook it all up without probs, so you should be okay

Ian.

[Toby_Unna]

When you look at the E30 item you'll see there is a huge amount of adjustment, but you could probably only make it an extra 30mm longer safely with the standard links.

that's exactly what I decided - i've moved my bulkhead bracket and servo about 25mm, for which there is sufficient adjustment.

the parts you have made are a lot prettier than mine though

I'm going to have a look at an e34 pull bar (if they have such a thing) next time i'm at the breaker.

[Brianmoooore]

I'm going to have a look at an e34 pull bar (if they have such a thing) next time i'm at the breaker.

Shortened and threaded E34 pullrod is what's on my M50, but I didn't move the servo so far. (I'm still using the standard E30 servo).
Would think that, with the servo moved across this far, the E34 rod would work with just possibly a little excess thread cut off. E34 rod has exactly the same threaded ends as the E30 one.

[Toby_Unna]

cheers Brian. i'll be getting myself one of those then

[old_skool]

BMW part number for the pull rod is 35211156454 and is the grand sum of £9.91 from BMW.

Just ordered one from the dealer although it's in Germany. Should be here Friday.

[old_skool]

Been trying all afternoon to locate this master cylinder, the best price so far is £176.00. No one seems to have a second hand one.

Well at least i know what it looks like now!

[buster]

thats the sukka !!
I got mine for £25 on ebay

i thought id put a pic up for you to see,here it is :

[jaistanley]

If I can EVER get a car that runs together (looking at £200 Micras on ebay now ) I shall go to sandburns and see what they have, armed with a part number and that photo! You normally have to route(root?) around in the many bins they have but it's dry and organised enough for me.

Was the reservoir you used from the same car Buster?

From the look of your photo buster, with the servo moved over a la Old_Skool's plates and that master cylinder, do you think we'll be able to get away with not modding the plenum? Will make life a lot easier for me if so (well a bit anyway).

Jai

[buster]

nope,i got an aftermarket one from rally design for about £30
Yes definately,no plenum mods with it that far over,i just wish id took more time and done the same.Also if its tight on the inner wing for the brake pipes you can move the blanks over and use the otherside for the pipes.

[jaistanley]

Is this : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brake-Master-Cyli ... dZViewItem

a suitable 23.8mm one (for E30M3 brakes)?

Looks right, I think.

Jai

[maxfield]

what about this???

[maxfield]

Is this : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brake-Master-Cyli ... dZViewItem

a suitable 23.8mm one (for E30M3 brakes)?

Looks right, I think.

Jai

needs to be 25mm