sad day

Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:46 pm

Today i have finally realised i dont have the money needed to restore the E30, tax and MOT are due as is insurance

these are brilliant cars and i will have another 1 day but untill i can find a better job a cheap knockabout is the only option....

some parts will be in the for sale section soon as sadly the chassis is not as solid as i thought so it will be scrapped

(tried to jack it up and the drivers front jacking point collapsed.....scary stuff and a good job i had steel toe caps on as the wheel came down)

Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:52 pm

To bad fella, Hope you get sorted with another in the near future.

Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:15 am

I never jack the car up on old bmws specially the E21, it will go thru the floor pan, the jacking points on these cars are just shitty and an easy rot point, i chopped my jacking points out and grinded the area to bare metal treated and sprayed underseal, just use the chassis legs now with Nissan micra jack with handle...best way to go, as the BMW jacks are so shit man.... worst design made for those cars...

can anyone confirm what im saying and what you all think???

jimi

Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:03 am

LOOOL, how true, back in 1988, i had a 325i in dolphin grey, beautyfull car, anyway, i have bloody puncture and i used the bmw jack supplied, all was good, turning the handile and BBAANNGG the F-----G car collapsed to one side leaving the tyre under the chassis holding it up and the brake disc about an inch from the ground... so left it there and called a mate who also has a bmw BUT with a Nisssan Micra Jack and used his, the car was up in seconds and didnt even move at all, VERY VERY stable.. NOW whay cant BMW think of an easy jack as the japanese ones then trying to be F-----G original with there shitty jacks, havent they had a wake up call yet, like good morning i smell coffee. OH by the way why not design a more stable jack, whats hard... the japanese where making jacks like that since the 60`s from what me ole` man told me, also i remember as a kid, when my father had a toyota corolla back in 1978 or something, they even supplied a FLACK which is like a colapsable triangle you put in front of the ture in case you had a puncture on a hill .... to stop it from rolling also in the kit was a set of 8 spanners, proper sparkplug extracto, pliers wheel brace in a roll type of tool bag..... and thats the japs for you, so when you go to bmw and buy a new car, u get cuple spanners, plastic spark plug hadle and extractor in a case in bolted to the boot lid and thats suppose to get you out of trouble easy trouble.... wake up man.. its about keeping standards and what you get for your money not bad reputation for keeping customers happy....., the best way to get bmw back is to destroy there engines from standard and make it faster....

and use aftermarket parts to give the required power.

jimi

LOL

Jimi

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:56 am

--alpina-- wrote:I the jacking points on these cars are just shitty and an easy rot point, i chopped my jacking points out and grinded the area to bare metal treated and sprayed underseal,
jimi

These are NOT jacking points. Don't blame BMW because you're too thick or lazy to read the handbook.
The standard BMW jack is extremely effective and easy to use, as long as it's positioned correctly on the jacking point. A wedge is provided in the toolkit to prevent the car rolling off the jack.

Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:13 am

Brianmoooore wrote:
--alpina-- wrote:I the jacking points on these cars are just shitty and an easy rot point, i chopped my jacking points out and grinded the area to bare metal treated and sprayed underseal,
jimi
These are NOT jacking points. Don't blame BMW because you're too thick or lazy to read the handbook.
The standard BMW jack is extremely effective and easy to use, as long as it's positioned correctly on the jacking point. A wedge is provided in the toolkit to prevent the car rolling off the jack.

The wheel chock is only supplied with cars that have discs all round...
I have a collection of them for when I'm working on my cars... i live on a hill ! don't have any problems using the BMW jack, using the proper jacking points. NEVER NEVER NEVER use the square looking areas at the end of the sills, they are not the jacking points.

Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:16 am

well i was using a trolly jack and a small ish block of wood...... maby too small

my car didnt come with a jack

i do have a screw type jack in the garage off a rover 800, freeby from a local scrapper and will lift nearly anything

Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:32 pm

Thick or lazy? ok, so maybe when working for bmw for like 15 years as a mechanic, specialising on older cars which do have jacking points such as quoted E21 yeah damn right they have jacking points which can be used to jack the car up using say trolly jack, as of standard jacks that are supplied like the E30 there no good anymore as the car is old and the chassis is not capable of getting lifted using standard jacks so maybe you do some research and spend maybe little more time than 15 years under these cars repairing them and see what ive see then talk like you know what your talking about, all the mechanics i used to work with at bmws all use japanese jacks cos they all experiance the same old shit.

jimi

Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:40 pm

--alpina--

if your so into japanese cars why not piss off to a honda forum and solve there problems!
Your attitude is very snotty and appears your here to cause an argument?

I find that my BMW jack will lift my 16 yr old BMW without a problem and the chock supplied does it's job fine.
And my spark plug tool is metal so what shit are you chatting now?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:15 pm

--alpina-- wrote:Thick or lazy?

Deffinatly lazy

As a honda trained mechanic of 8 years experiance in the motor trade i am hardly thick but am in a low payed job at the moment for reasons i wont go into.

and your comment on jap jacks...... my old rover jack is identical to a honda jack from the same era

Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:37 pm

--alpina-- wrote: no good anymore as the car is old and the chassis is not capable of getting lifted using standard jacks
jimi

This must rank as the biggest load of bollox posted on the net for some time!! Not worthy of further comment.

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:31 pm

Well everyone is entitled to there own thoughts, not saying bmw is shit or anything its that some car companys have different items given to the car when you buy it, what im saying is that some items would be usefull on bmws so dont know where u getting off about my quotes ive stated.. not into jap cars matey and never was....

You lot just getting heated up LOL im cool whats the bother? becoasue of the comments about a "car jack" if you lot are arguing about a thought on a car jack and im cool with it, then you have a soft spot for the bmw car jacks, i have 3 in my garage, ill send them to ya, make you feel better to have more then one in yer car... what ya say?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:10 pm

The problem is that we get SO many people manking on about rusty floors on E30's and how they put a jack through them.

The point Brian was making was that on an E30, it's not a jacking point. Those square plates were used in the factory to move the body around, and were never designed as jacking points.

Ian.

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:26 pm

never had a problem lifting my 22 year old rust bucket with the BM supplied jack, if people are putting them through their rusty floors it's obviously the car thats at fault not the jack

better luck nexxt time Stonesie, hope your cash fortunes work out for you

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:38 pm

--alpina-- wrote:Thick or lazy? ok, so maybe when working for bmw for like 15 years as a mechanic, specialising on older cars which do have jacking points such as quoted E21 yeah damn right they have jacking points which can be used to jack the car up using say trolly jack, as of standard jacks that are supplied like the E30 there no good anymore as the car is old and the chassis is not capable of getting lifted using standard jacks so maybe you do some research and spend maybe little more time than 15 years under these cars repairing them and see what ive see then talk like you know what your talking about, all the mechanics i used to work with at bmws all use japanese jacks cos they all experiance the same old shit.

jimi

If you worked for BMW, and spent 15 years under old BMW's, why on earth would you be using a jack?! Surely BMW can afford lifts?

Personally, I find it shocking that the BMW garage you worked for obviously never showed the mechanics how to use a jack, and where to use it!

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:42 pm

mmmm, im wondering now if i mentioned using a jack in the garage..... mmmmmmm never mind,

Dont work for bmw anymore anyway " maybe they never showed us how to work a jack "

Stop being passionate about your jacks for F--K sakes get on with another subject.......

regards

j

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:52 pm

--alpina-- wrote:
can anyone confirm what im saying and what you all think???

jimi

You asked!

What you posted was a load of rubbish, you obviously have no idea how to use the original jack, and where to locate it, point has been proven, and you seem to be the one that's upset about it!

End of topic me thinks....

Stonsie, feel welcome to start another thread about your sad loss, and hopefully we can keep it full of proper info this time!