"Slamming" the E30 - chav or not?

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Will a 60/60 drop make it seem like I've just driven out of the local council estate?

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Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:17 pm

I've dropped my 325i 40mm but that's because it's on Bilstiens and it's used for the track. (see before and after on my site) http://www.whitetrack325i.webeden.co.uk

60mm is too much and I've voted 'council estate time' but 35mm would be cool :cool:

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Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:37 pm

My mates 325 cab is dropped by 80mm front and back and looks the nuts. Handles well too.
Drop it man, lowered cars always look better than standard, my mk1 escort had decambered rear springs and 2 inch lowering blocks at the back and group 4 billies and a 120mm drop at the front and looked the nuts.
It will be back this year with front coilovers and be lower!
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:06 am

well i dont give a f**k about if people think im a chav, i might well be but i think they look so so much better on the floor mate, slam it, my old cabby was droped 60mm on saloon springs and shocks, so it was more like 80mm, but it looked the tits every time i went out some1 looked at it and said "wow i like that how low is it" get it droped mate, on a nice set of 17" alpinas, this pic is 40/60 40 at the front 60 at the back. and the blac1 is 60 as well
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:29 am

put it on its arse :mad:
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:24 am

as they say here in the STATES "JUST DO IT !!!!!!!""
60/50 OR 60/60 :cool:
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:32 am

60/60 could be a bit much, went for the 40/40 and still quite drivable, we have some pretty rough roads here and plenty of well hidden speedbumps and i still make it over most things without major scrapin(although i did do me front spoiler the other day but was off roadin winkeye)

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Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:56 am

i think if u want slammed look, 40/60

if you want comfort,,, judging by peoples comments id say 30-40all round...

just a summary of comments or feedback that im getting

as for looks,,,, a slammed e30 does not look council as long as you have th right wheels

hmm deep dish
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:54 am

So much council activity...... its all very wrong ! :eek:
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:40 am

pacerpete wrote:So much council activity...... its all very wrong ! :eek:
hush your self lol :wan: lol
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:16 pm

The H&R 60/40 is the best suspension kit as far as I'm concerned.

17" Alpinas are about the most council thing you can do to an e30.
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:37 pm

Face it, most of you wouldn't know cool if it oversteered over your Next trainers.

Anyone with fake Alpinas on their car is banned from any discussions concerning what is and what isn't council.
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:56 pm

pacerpete wrote:So much council activity...... its all very wrong ! :eek:
and this coming from the king of council.
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:30 pm

dark_sounds wrote:i think if u want slammed look, 40/60
Thats what im going for 60 front, 40 rear
dark_sounds wrote:as for looks,,,, a slammed e30 does not look council as long as you have th right wheels

hmm deep dish
Im going for Hartge 15" only because I couldnt find 16" :wink:
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:25 pm

i dropped my old e30 on a 40/40 it looked good and handled better i still managed to get jammed on a speed hump though but it was worth it lol
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ste wrote:Face it, most of you wouldn't know cool if it oversteered over your Next trainers.

Anyone with fake Alpinas on their car is banned from any discussions concerning what is and what isn't council.
WTF? ok mush
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:54 pm

17" and 18" alpinas look the tits, mind you i dont care what people think of me or my car iv got to drive it and im going for 18" alpinas and 60mm front and 80mm rear, i would onlg go 40 on 15" wheels as 60mm would be too low to use the car but i dont like 15" wheels, they look ok on other peoples cars just not on mine

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Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:57 pm

hows the strut brace lee 8O heard the price nearly doubled too?

i'd like to know why u want the back lower than the front and secondly who makes 80mm drop springs?
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All this talk of 17" & 18" Alpinas, surely that should be Alpina style? 8O
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Simon13 wrote:hows the strut brace lee 8O heard the price nearly doubled too?

i'd like to know why u want the back lower than the front and secondly who makes 80mm drop springs?

yer i was selling it as i had a m3 and was going to get 1 like the 1 kos has on hi m3, but iv sold that now and iv got the sport, so im going to stick it on there, do they do alpina a strut brace if so if i can get 1 of them and they look good i will sell it m8, iv got some RD springs and shocks if you want them, iv got a RD anti roll bar as well but i want that, if i find any more RD bits on the car i will let you know m8

as for the 60/80 drop i think the wells will rub if i drop it 80 on the front and i like my cars low, i know my red1 isnt but only had it a week and i need to get it moted 1st as the last mot i went for we had probs checking the brakes
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Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:24 pm

I knew this thread would end up like this :( everyone has different taste and we should all respect that. 15" with a 35-40mm drop does drive nicely but 17/18" slammed does look the dogs 8)

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Oh and I'm fcuking not council




How low can you go winkeye

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Cheers for all the replies...

Neil (320Touring), I already have M Tech suspension! Plus re practicality/travelling 4-up, I said it doesn't matter as it's not a daily car :wink:

Giles, it's your car that made me consider 60mm all round in the first place - on standard wheels (which I'll be keeping) it's obviously lower than standard but still looks very classy :cool:

Mahmood I missed your car at Aces :(

Cotty it matters what other people think. It sounds sad but I want the car to be appreciated by all :)

Demlot I've explained to you why the giant aerial is staying :wink:

Phil N, no H&R cup kit for the 1.8 cab unfortunately :cry: And yeah a 60/60 drop with 17" Alpina reps would make you king of the local council estate. I did used to like them though 8O

Anyway, I think 60/40 would be the best option judging by the replies. 35 or 40 all round isn't good enough as I don't think it'll get rid of the gap in the front arch.

Just gonna go for springs with standard shocks - don't wanna spend too much money as a proper (and obviously heavier) engine will be finding its way into the engine bay soon enough.

At the moment it's between Spax 55/35 for 85 quid, or Jamex 60/40 which are suspiciously cheap at £69 :squint:

Didn't mean to start any arguments about Alpina reps :?

Might go and start a thread about whether Azev As are council or not winkeye
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:50 am

i vote 60mm drop in the back is to much the wheel gap just looks uneven i would go no more than 35mm drop will be more comfy as well
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:09 am

Jamex do an 80mm kit.
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:02 pm

Am I not right in thinking that there comes a point where excessively lowering your vehicle will start to impede it's handling ability.

Sure a lowered car removes excess travel in the suspension, lowers the Centre of Gravity and looks cool as feck but it still retains some dampening ability in dealing with our lumpy bumpy roads.

Excessive lowering will resitric the suspensions ability to deal with Gordon Browns neglect of our road system. And suspension specifically design to handle this type of lowering is probably more suited to a race track

Do I have a point or am I spouting cod $h!t???
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:44 pm

No you're dead right.
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:47 pm

thats why i only lowered mine 40/40 my mate had lowered nova that was 60mm all round it looked good but u felt every little defect in the road
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:14 pm

Not too sure what the drop is on my cab, any ideas?
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:23 pm

Is that Bens cab you bought...? Looks great!
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:33 pm

8O fake alpina 17's on 60mm springs and me mar lives in a council house :eek:
makes my car a bag of pooh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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dave wrote:8O fake alpina 17's on 60mm springs and me mar lives in a council house :eek:
makes my car a bag of pooh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Yeah definately, what a shed, where's the three spokes gone that'll suit it better!!!
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Nah, looks sweet mate. To each his own
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:11 pm

ok, just poking my head above the trench here....

but

When people drop cars why do they drop the back so the rears are hidden up to the wheel? Just seems to me that the front of that car looks perfect with the tire just clear of the arch, but the back looks wrong with the line of the tyre cutting the arch. I think the look of concentric circles at the front (arch, tyre, wheel) looks really good, but the arch shape at the back (arch, half a tyre, wheel) just looks ugly.

In my opinion of course ;)

Does anyone drop cars so the back wheels are just off the arches, like the fronts have to be?
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dave wrote:8O fake alpina 17's on 60mm springs and me mar lives in a council house :eek:
makes my car a bag of pooh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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according ste we are not allowed to have an opinion on this topic due to our choice of wheels?

what a numpty
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oguz3001 wrote:
dave wrote:8O fake alpina 17's on 60mm springs and me mar lives in a council house :eek:
makes my car a bag of pooh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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according ste we are not allowed to have an opinion on this topic due to our choice of wheels?

what a numpty
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Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:32 pm

Zayyan, steer clear of Jamex springs - i have a set on my tech 1 sport (which will be removed) as they are a complete pile of dog sh1t!

Go for the spax ones mate.
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Geeman wrote:Is that Bens cab you bought...? Looks great!
Yep, managed to prise this one out of Bens hands before he modded it beyond recognition, lol.

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