snapped lollipop bolt in chassis HELP!

[Phill172]

stick one bolt in the lollipop and use the stub as a locator then welt the stub to the lollipop.

fixed and will pass an mot.

if ever you need to change the lollipop bush again [which i doubt] just grind the weld off.

jobbed !

Is what I had to do at a track last month, the captive is shagged in mine, I jammed a big bolt in as a locator and had it welded within a inch of its life

[Speedtouch]

stick one bolt in the lollipop and use the stub as a locator then welt the stub to the lollipop.

fixed and will pass an mot.

if ever you need to change the lollipop bush again [which i doubt] just grind the weld off.

jobbed !

If you have the welder at hand, you may as well do the job properly, and use it instead to get the broken bolt out, and fit a new one in, then you've got peace of mind knowing that the lollipop is properly attached. Especially important on a powerful-engined car that you may be throwing about a bit.

[BATTS91]

my thought exactly i dont want to bodge it it any way or make it worse im trying to get hold of a welder to do the job if the stud does become knakered ill cut into the floor and weld a nut or 2 in there , il hopefully have welder at end of week cant do anything today as reccomended by my physio to take the rest of the day easy , should be sorted on weekend cheers for advice everyone

[rhubarb]

stop poncing about and get some heat on it..!

[BATTS91]

cant u read mate i can do nithing today ive done my back in n pysio killed me ive tryed heating with a blow torch and the local hires shops dont do oxy

[VW-will]

Milking it batts, lool I know how it is though.... Had subframe bolt snap didn't I, flush with chassis.... Was a pain!!

[BATTS91]

you know how things are up er will absolute pony lol jus gta get a eelder n job done ;)

[bodger]

get some heat on your back instead

[BATTS91]

had a crash in december in aunts car back oura place insurance paying for physio ect , jus had a nice hot bath still restricts me from gettin the ol slag done tho

[rhubarb]

cant u read mate i can do nithing today ive done my back in n pysio killed me ive tryed heating with a blow torch and the local hires shops dont do oxy

If you've stuffed your back, why are you pissing about with your car?

And yes I can read, but you seem to be going around in circles, unlike that stud

[Nobby_N]

/\/\ lol

[BATTS91]

because u have a little thing called determination dont wory mate ;)

[rhubarb]

because u have a little thing called determination dont wory mate ;)

perhaps the rock hard ride of your "stanced" motor has hurt your back?

I know when I fucked my back up, I didn't work for a month, and I fix motors for a living.

[BATTS91]

is there any need seriously jeez ! i was in a car accident (not my car and i wasnt driving) tht bad to get out the roof was lobbed of , whats the point in not needed digs because i like a car slammed on its sh!tter

[rhubarb]

yep, its a shitter

[BATTS91]

why? why do you feel the need to try and insult me ? its clearly people like you give this place a bad name i i asked was for some help from kind zoners and then theres this i dont get it bye mods if your about you can delete this if you wish and i politley thank the zoners who has given good advice cba with this sh!t anymore

[rhubarb]

I have given you some very good advice, but you've ignored it!

You give E30's a bad name with a turd like that.

[BATTS91]

ye you said heat fella and ive tryed a blowtorch and i simply jus cant get an oxy because no hire shop here has one i did say that man ,think what you like about my e30 im done with this convo

[rhubarb]

no I said get a mobile mechanic out who has got oxy/acel..

never mind, another turd off the road

[B7]

it appears we are going nowhere with this. If you can't do anything about it yourself then get someone in to deal. Simples

[Demlotcrew]

Now now gents, play nice.

How much do you have to spend on this repair?

You can get a nice burner all in for about £100 (Map Gas). You need to get some heat in there to break the seal of rust in the threads, once the bolt is glowing you will be able to wind it out. I would not apply any heat to the chassis rail, only the stud sticking out. Make sure you have plenty of water near by should the worst happen!

[penton08]

I dont get why this has taken 6 pages buy a Dormer drill bit (£10) and a tap (£5), drill the fooker out and re tap the threads!!!! costs=£15, time taken=10 mins.

[Demlotcrew]

HE has more chance messing up with a drill than with heat. I would not like to drill hardened bolts with domestic drill, no matter how good the drill bit is, its very hard to drill straight down the centre of the bolt.

[BATTS91]

because people like to try n take the pish plus the was a page n half about welders , i have just put a cheque in the bank when that clears ill be able to buy some more tools to try i cant travel far penton as only got pushbike at the mo and clacton is shocking nowhere apart from halfords had taps n it was a set for £40 :0 ill post up at end of week when ive bought some new tools maybe a welder we shall see

[Demlotcrew]

Do you have an eBay and PayPal account? There are plenty of tools you can buy and have delivered for free.

[penton08]

I have done a few this way, with the right drill bit its easy To get the heat to where is is needed (the captive nut) you would have to cut a hole in the floor. Heating the stump wont help IMO.

[Speedtouch]

I'd disagree with this. In my experience, the red-hot heat of MIG weld will soak its way in and make almost any stuck bolt come out.

[penton08]

No, I agree welding a nut on would be my preferred method. But the op has no access to a welder, hence my suggestion. heating the stump with oxy will just make it tighter, IMO that is.

[Demlotcrew]

I have done a few this way, with the right drill bit its easy To get the heat to where is is needed (the captive nut) you would have to cut a hole in the floor. Heating the stump wont help IMO.

Ive never had a broken CAB bolt, but i have had many other non accessible studs on which heat has worked wonders.

Drilling a bolt out is last resort IMO. Even the skilled mechanics ive seen, cannot drill the remains of a bolt without damaging the threads one way or another.

[BATTS91]

yeah ive got ebay/paypal jus havent had enough to buy stuff , im either going to buy or hire a mig welder that way if i have to cut the floor ive got a welder

[Nobby_N]

Cut the floor! This is madness in a 300 styley!

[VW-will]

If u drill it batts, I could get you a helicoil kit that size, would work fine mate..... Also some proper w@nk3rs on here..... Don't worry ur turd ain't too bad:-)

[Demlotcrew]

If you were closer i would have driven over and removed the broken bolt for you, its not a major issue, just do the wise thing and do what people have said!

Save some money in the long run.

[BATTS91]

thanks mate , im going with the root of renting a welder again cheaper than buying one , and i have my good pal will that has a welder to help with other jobs once this bolt is out and cars on the road , i take it thats your car in your sig looks the must where abouts in anglia are you fella ?

lool thankyou wills , ive seen pics of restored m3s with more rust than my piece so im not that worried it can all be cut out at the end of the day init wills x

[mrb27]

i always go with the drill tbh, i norm drill into the stud slightly off the middle. once through, go next size up etc etc until your very close to the thread. never been unlucky with em. if i had a welder i would however weld a nut to it and try that first, but i wouldnt go out and buy a welder just for that 1 bolt.