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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:06 pm

Had some fun going onto a roundabout today, back end went and figured something was wrong with the diff or a flat tyre. Then the red light came on and I suddenly had no fuel. (I must have had some on the rear tyre). Pulled up and was pissing petrol out from the front nearside wing. Couldn't see where from - late afternoon light - but now thinking its a hose from the regulator to the injection rail?

Are these rubber and perishable on a 325?

Where the fook can I get a replacement - temporary if necessary - on a Sunday so I don't have to leave it where its parked?

Supposed to be running a half marathon tomorrow at 12 so don't have much chance to go very far for a parts place that will close at 12 but happy to go some miles in the derv if anyones got something ??

Cheers!

8O
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:10 pm

You should be able to pick some up from any local motor factors for about £4 a meter? And yes, they do perish over time... I noticed mine had gone a little while ago just wehere it joined to the rail, was spraying out when being revved and only spotted it by the off chance, with a ciggy in my mouth 8O
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:16 pm

cheap motor factor fuel pipe isn't really up to the job I tried this once and it quickly split again very easily,
325i fuel pipes are under quite a lot of pressure 8O
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:18 pm

LOL nice one mate - glad you didn't go up in flames - I'll have a look in the morning and see if that's what it probably is...

hmmm where to get some :mad:
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:19 pm

Ohhh, good point, I was referring to a quick fix to get it moved... Then pop to the dealers for some...

Where you located bpowell? If your in Leicester, I can sort you out some old for now...
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:23 pm

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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:25 pm

e30topless wrote:cheap motor factor fuel pipe isn't really up to the job I tried this once and it quickly split again very easily,
325i fuel pipes are under quite a lot of pressure 8O
Yea, will get some from the stealer but just need to get it moving again back from where its parked up, won't be able to pick up the bmw part till Tuesday / weds :banana:


.... this is all ^if^ its what it is - I hope so as it sounds like a proper 5 minute job :D
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:26 pm

Jim320i wrote:Ohhh, good point, I was referring to a quick fix to get it moved... Then pop to the dealers for some...

Where you located bpowell? If your in Leicester, I can sort you out some old for now...
Down south mate, will give e30mtech a buzz as he's near me, cheers fella
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Cheers dude :cheers:
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:42 pm

In the wiki the hose is 8x13 - would any 8mm id hose do? (again as a temporary patch up)
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:47 pm

I expect so, as long as you've got some smaller jubilee clips to hand in case the existing ones can tighten that small.
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:55 pm

Yes as long as its 8mm ID then the OD doesn't really matter for the 2 hoses that come from the bulkhead up to the fuel rail.

FYI Had the same problem as Jim and replaced with:
http://www.jp4mance.co.uk/products/1/Honda/_/1338/

When I spoke to Cotswold BMW they said they didn't supply it by length.
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:04 pm

rrs, yea just saw them, in chatham right? Reckon they're open on a sunday? Otherwise might pay halfrauds a visit :mad:
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:06 pm

I think they are mail order only sadly :(

Halfords has in the past stocked fuel hose when I've been there.

*edit* The one I posted up is the correct OD as well so will fit places like under the cover in the rear wheel arch.
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Just thinking, will I need to remove the airbox to get access?
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:45 pm

It will make life slightly simpler. From what i remember the 2 pipes are connected to hard lines down by the lollipop bracket. they then run up under the manifold and are clipped to a larger hose then carry on upto the fuel rail and pressure regulator. I suggest you start the engine then pull the fuse for the fuel pump before you try swapping the hose. Also when i did mine the car was up in the air so i did the bulkhead connections from underneath the car. like grrrmachine said if you manange to get some buy a couple of jubilee/hose clips too.

Airbox box is 2 nuts to remove either 8 or 10mm i think.
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:53 pm

Guess I'm just going to have to have a look around - cheers :banghead:
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:31 am

Leaking at the bulkhead end on a braided cloth type pipe - pissing I should say - plus another leak more in the middle- would explain occasional smell of petrol :) looks a piece of peepee to swap too and halfrauds just done me proud whoop whoop! :)
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:33 am

Excellent they are not completely useless then!
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:57 pm

Job done- 40 minutes at the road side in the dark with 5 spent checking the fuel pump fuse number :o:

Would have been much easier to tighten the lower jubilee if it was jacked up. Will have to have another look anyway as was rushing and haven't fitted to the h-clamps yet, old pipe is still there. Beside, might swap for a BMW version though tbh it looks pretty chunky.

Also inspired me to fit my recon injectors since the description on pelican of doing this made it sound pretty easy. Had a quick burn and she's sounding sweeeeeet :D
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:02 pm

... oh yea only downside was fooking sheeite time in the half marathon. 2 hrs and 1 minute :o: Supposed to be running a full marathon in April, on that performance its going to be painful :cry:

Perhaps 15 stone and distance running don't mix?

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Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:19 pm

The culprit:

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Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:22 pm

Someone's been there before! That's not a BMW hose clip.
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:31 pm

You might want to hang onto the halfords fuel lines a little longer, recently changed mine....£25 each from the stealer!! Cha-ching!!
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