The Government are talking about getting rid of old car's!!?

[tonybtonyb]

I've heard the government are talking about getting rid of all old car's over 15 years or more.I was wondering how true this is.

[ImysE30]

Good luck trying to do that

[richlyons]

what reasons would they have for doing so?

[Felix79]

The enviromentalists would cause a right uproar , as it is more eco friendly to keep an older car on the road over a lithium powered crapbox.

Also it would be close to forced vandelisum if you got rid of things like E-Types and DB5's and 6's.

Also I rather spend money on the car , rather than loosing most of it's value in it's first 3 years.

The impact alone on the used car market would be a idiotic move. So your car is say 13-14 years old , who the hell is going to pay for a car that no matter the condition is going to meet the scrapheap.

I think those are enough reasons for now.....

[tonybtonyb]

I'll go on the government web site to find out more info on this!

[steviebmw]

the goverment have more chance or orgernizing a piss up in a brewery

[HairyScreech]

what reasons would they have for doing so?

europe. (dosent deserve a capital.)



but enough euro bashing, its not going to happen.
iv certainly heard nothing and its a rumour that goes around regularly.

[oomz1975]

Never going to happen, too many people (myself included) will tell them to f**k off.

[Kemix]

the goverment have more chance or orgernizing a pee pee up in a brewery

[Jim320i]

I would continue to drive my car until they physically removed me from me... And they would have to try. Wouldnt happen though as there are so many cars that are over 15 years old...

[Kedge]

Same old atupid rumour pops it's head up every few years.

[e30-EVN]

Yep, they will get a middle finger from me to!
Anyway, they could never make that stick. Uproar aint the word

[Martinaston]

The only ruling like that going round is the 15 year rule on London Taxis.

A friend of mine is not too happy with it, especially when they want 42k for a Merc van that you could buy for 15 on the continent.

[Topblag]

I like the Jay Leno approach to car power sources - the more electric and hydrogen cars on the road, the more unleaded fuel will be available for us to put in our old cars.

[billcarr182]

I like the Jay Leno approach to car power sources - the more electric and hydrogen cars on the road, the more unleaded fuel will be available for us to put in our old cars.

Yeah.. except the 'future' of hydrogen production is supposed to be extraction from fossil fuels. So we will still be competing for the black stuff and getting boned by tax into the bargain. We can't win I'm afraid.

[daimlerman]

What we need to be wary off is proposals to limit the use of older vehicles.

I understand that in Germany,for example,there is an 'oldtimer' regestration plate and limits on distances that vehicles thus regestered can travel from their home base.

[DanThe]

It wont matter soon anyway as nobody will want to drive them

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12259273

[ConvertChris]

there was talk on the radio today of issueing rationing tickets for fuel, the more you wanted the more you pay!!!! what ever next either way the goverment is still making loads of money out of this

[Duke137]

Good luck trying to do that

+1

[dimebag_from_hell]

It wont matter soon anyway as nobody will want to drive them

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12259273

Pack of fucking bastards!

[Cotty]

there was talk on the radio today of issueing rationing tickets for fuel, the more you wanted the more you pay!!!!

That will never happen when they get so much tax from fuel, they WANT you to use more as more as fuel = more lovely tax

[Cotty]

Never going to happen, too many people (myself included) will tell them to f**k off.

They can take my keys when they prise them from my cold dead hand.

[MARKYMARKY]

No chance

[ian332isport]

Yeah.. except the 'future' of hydrogen production is supposed to be extraction from fossil fuels. So we will still be competing for the black stuff and getting boned by tax into the bargain. We can't win I'm afraid.

Not quite.

The Hydrogen is extracted from simple water. It's just that you need lots of electricity to separate the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules. This power is generally derived from fossil fules, but could equally come from renewables.

Ian.

[ultralinear]

I imagine Hydrogen powered engines would be very difficult to develop torque from.. I think they'd be high revving beasts.

Electrolysis could be one method (and as you say, nuclear power could be used.. the silly French have loads of nuclear power stations, why not us?). Bacterial action is another.

Back to the fuel argument. I really think of an uneconomical engine as a luxury. One I'm willing to pay for. It doesn't take up a huge fraction of my earnings. You could treble the price and I'd still keep my car.

[HairyScreech]

Yeah.. except the 'future' of hydrogen production is supposed to be extraction from fossil fuels. So we will still be competing for the black stuff and getting boned by tax into the bargain. We can't win I'm afraid.

Not quite.

The Hydrogen is extracted from simple water. It's just that you need lots of electricity to separate the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules. This power is generally derived from fossil fules, but could equally come from renewables.

Ian.

the current method of obtaining hydrogen, and currently the only viable way is to crack hydrocarbons down to hydrogen and carbon.

which means your basically taking perfectly good petrol and throwing half of the power producing components away.

hydrogen never really will be a viable power source for ic engines, its too hard to produce, the power density is to low, its too hard to store and handle, its far to dangerous, to keep it liquid needs stupid pressure or ridiculous cold and it takes up too much cylinder space in the fuel/air mix.

[billcarr182]

Yeah.. except the 'future' of hydrogen production is supposed to be extraction from fossil fuels. So we will still be competing for the black stuff and getting boned by tax into the bargain. We can't win I'm afraid.

Not quite.

The Hydrogen is extracted from simple water. It's just that you need lots of electricity to separate the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules. This power is generally derived from fossil fules, but could equally come from renewables.

Ian.

Hydrogen production is the industrial method for generating hydrogen. Currently the dominant technology for direct production is steam reforming from hydrocarbons.

bit boring really.

[Kedge]

You could treble the price and I'd still keep my car.

Don't let the Govt hear you say that