Hartge H23, Resto, final touches !

[Rav335uk]

I will Steve. I will bring your door pod.

Rav doesn't smoke the shit, he talks it.

Quite boy, sit, sit sit!! Or i'll go get "The Ratch"

[Dezzy]

I will Steve. I will bring your door pod.

Rav doesn't smoke the shit, he talks it.

Quite boy, sit, sit sit!! Or i'll go get "The Ratch"

Ha ha Ratch loves nothing more than keeping you in your place rover

[Rav335uk]

I will Steve. I will bring your door pod.

Rav doesn't smoke the shit, he talks it.

Quite boy, sit, sit sit!! Or i'll go get "The Ratch"

Ha ha Ratch loves nothing more than keeping you in your place rover

It's been you lately
Anyway STOP SPAMMING THE THREAD!

[Barx325i]

needs a sunroof..

[bmwsport]

my winter daily/work van 0-60 in 15 mins

I know what you mean mine, mine is an '03 T220 with 75ps ffs I still love it though

[DanThe]

It needs aircon, not a sunroof!

[e30topless]

my winter daily/work van 0-60 in 15 mins

I know what you mean mine, mine is an '03 T220 with 75ps ffs I still love it though

mines the executive T220 LX 90ps, ace van

Aircon is somthing that it used to have Dan, it might be something thats going back, the thought of getting raped for aircon parts scares me

[Barx325i]

Steve, I have an 84 air con compressor from an h23

[e30topless]

i have been thinking about the donk ect, would it be wrong to convert it to Motronic 1.3 ?

[Rav335uk]

Go for it

[StuBeeDoo]

would it be wrong to convert it to Motronic 1.3 ?

Certainly not! I've got a 2.3 chipped 1.3 ECU here, if you're interested.

[bmwsport]

Personally, as you plan on keeping the original shell i'd say stick with the earlier management system if everything else is going to be OEM/as it was in 1984. You have quite an early car there and theres not many H23's left nevermind pre-facelift Hartge's in general so it would be quite a shame to get rid of a core feature their engine conversions were based around.

It's not a bad system and there's not much to go wrong with it, the only negative is the lack of 'chipping' possibilities but its all about the raw Hartge engine mods anyway Chipping is cheating

[e30topless]

It's not a bad system and there's not much to go wrong with it, the only negative is the lack of 'chipping' possibilities but its all about the raw Hartge engine mods anyway Chipping is cheating

it's more of a reliability issue than a chip.. the very early systems are terrible I despise the cold start on these early turds and they have way too many vacuum pipes/valves and other crap !

this car wil get a lot of use when done and I think it will be more useable with 1.3 and nothing will be irreversable so it could always be "put back" ?

[adit]

Did you buy that from a guy in N.Ireland? It was sold on ebay about 2 years ago, I considered buying it but decided against it. It might even be the same car that was also for sale in 2006 - again, I briefly contemplated buying it but the owning it but the owner said the LSD and dogleg box were AWOL.

it came from Dublin earlier this year it could very well be be the same car ?
I haven't checked the LSD yet and never thought about it having a dogleg box,
I have another H23 that will be a donor for the build

i have a dogleg box for sale if you're interested Mr. Topless

here is a pic:



taken from a B reg 323i

[Barx325i]

Go 1.3 & unleash the beast.. It's not irreversible

[StuBeeDoo]

Go 1.3 & unleash the beast.. It's not irreversible

Preeeeeeecisely.

[e30topless]

unsure about 1.3 now...this car is pre- C101 plug

I have removed the donk and the entire wiring loom today, the loom is in very poor condition mainly due to 25 years of dickhead alarm fitters armed with scotchblocks

if i was to go 1.3 Motronic I would have to update the whole cars electrics with a facelift Loom ! although this could have it's plus points for morsel add-ons !


Ady, I recognise that leg, I'm sure it belongs to the same hound that ate my chicken drumstick in Oxford last year !

[Scott72]

If it's any consolation my L-Jet in the E30 runs, starts and idles just as well as the Motronic that was in my E21 323i (1991 M20B25 fitted in the E21). I did spend a bit of cash replacing pretty much every vacuum line on the motor. At least you can still get them all.

[Theo]

I also have a dogleg box for a 323i complete with the propshaft which is unique to the 323i with dogleg box.

[HairyScreech]

once again even fitting the later loom wouldnt be too much of a sin, the end of the day the only people that are going to notice a later loom are real spotters and the only ones that are going to mind are the polished diff cover concourse nit picky touch cock brigade.

fitting the 1.3 is hardly ruining the car in anyway, its not like your fitting a lambo door kit.

you could even leave most of the vac lines and kit in there to make it look like its still on the jetronic if your really worried about it.

[Dezzy]

Ha ha got to love the opportunist rare spare fraggers on this thread.

Steve IMO (which means little) I would change the loom, If you intend to use the car. If your just going to move it on, as usual then keep it original for bigger value.

[daimlerman]

I'm all for subtle improvements that make an old car more usable,and at the end of the day it is you who has to live with it and fix it when it breaks,so removing a potential trouble spot must be worth considering.

And you can still polish the inside of the exhaust pipe,if that is what you want to do!

Proper job!

[jonny323i]

even proper restorers nowadays are upfrading things like electric a local place rebuilds 60's rolls royces and they are now fitting electronic ignition and startersfrom the v8 bmw engine so they run better
go for it mate i think its the right move

[e30topless]

I am going to have to get a charger for my camera !

no going back now this thing only has the front and rear subframes on
they will be powdercoated when it's back from bodywork/paint..



Passenger side floor is a mess, from previous botches,


the restoration it had while in Ireland didn't look too bad at first glance... But I am still finding masking tape ect,



not used to all this room a single garage is my usual spot !

[Alex]

is this your new lockup steve

[Rav335uk]

Looks like a nice place for an E30 meet

[Alex]

Looks like a nice place for an E30 meet

+1

[Dezzy]

Good work Steve.

[Duke137]

Wow, I really do f**k about with my project compared to some zoners....

[Rav335uk]

Wow, I really do f**k about with my project compared to some zoners....

You have tooooo many Tea breaks

[Dezzy]

Steve is a hardened E30 raper. Not many can break them down like Steve. This one is one of the lucky ones that's going back together

[Rav335uk]

Steve is a hardened E30 raper. Not many can break them down like Steve. This one is one of the lucky ones that's going back together

Steve is a "RAPIST"

[andreia]

you selling the wheels bruv? i dont mind them too much

thats Andys old 323i isnt it

That is my old 323

[bmwsport]

Good progress You don't mess about and that lockup is awesome! This is going to be a cool thread (judging by your previous H27 restoration)

[e30topless]

Looks like a nice place for an E30 meet

+1

I'm already having my own meet in there, I just added the triple 3 turd today !

Steve is a hardened E30 raper. Not many can break them down like Steve. This one is one of the lucky ones that's going back together

2 days to fully strip down, had plenty of practise with these turds.. it drove in with tax and test !

just wish it only took 2 days to build back up