*URGENT* E36 Rack, Powersteering pipes...

[Brycey]

What sizes/fittings/length of pipe do I need to fit an E36 rack to my E30.

All I can find is that you need some making up...

Surely someone must know the length and the size of fittings...?

Wanna fit mine tomorrow and just goto Pirtek (open till 12pm) and say I need X pipe making up thank you please.

[magpie]

this subject has been covered many times.

it should be a sticky??

i'm sure help will arrive soon.

if not try the search function

[Brycey]

looked on the wiki, just says custom pipes. nothing specific of sizes, lengths and fittings.

[E30BeemerLad]

Pipe 1 ”“ High pressure - 1 metre of steel braid nylon hose, M16 banjo connector at one end (rack end) with a 90 degree offset on the banjos, M14 banjo connector at the other end (pump end) - double check your pump bolt is M14 - i'm pretty sure they are.

Pipe 2 ”“ Low pressure (return hose) ”“ 1 x M14 banjo into 200mm of 3/8”a rubber hose, then stepped up to a”a hose for 1 metre.

I reckon that will be a good £100 bumming at Pirtek

[town325i]

Lee is that for an M50 fitment as the car this is going on is a m20b20 and it need to fit in the reservoir needs to be in the e30 mounting position not the e36 position

[E30BeemerLad]

yep the above will fit straight upto the M20 setup (assuming the M20 pump has M14 banjo bolt?)

You just cut down the return hose to the length you need when mounting the reservoir on the engine leg on the n24v setup

[Brycey]

Well where else would one suggest getting pipes?

I have a complete 328sport rack,pump,pipes and bottle. wanna get it done tomorrow got MOT next friday and E30 rack is leaking.

[E30BeemerLad]

where abouts are you located?

[magpie]

looked on the wiki, just says custom pipes. nothing specific of sizes, lengths and fittings.

the zone search is different from the wiki.

a 2nd search finds this,hidden in the tech help section.

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... ering+rack

hth.

[clarko74]

I've had this for quite a while (can't remember where I got it):



The banjo sizes are different to beemerlad's description and I've not had any pipes made up from this drawing can't comment on if it's correct or not but thought I'd post it up in case it's of some use.

[Brycey]

where abouts are you located?

Lichfield, Staffordshire.

15mins from Town325

[DanThe]

This is £90 from Pirtek

[E30BeemerLad]

The place I got my pipes made up are in Doncaster and it cost me £60 for them, but they will take a few days to do them and post. This is their number 01302 746 969 and ask for Paul. They can take paypal.

You can do a bodge and bend the hard pipes from your E30 pipes using a blow torch to heat them up, but I wouldn't entertain it.

[town325i]

You can do a bodge and bend the hard pipes from your E30 pipes using a blow torch to heat them up, but I wouldn't entertain it.

I tried and failed big style bastard things bent double and split

[BadDave]

You can do a bodge and bend the hard pipes from your E30 pipes using a blow torch to heat them up, but I wouldn't entertain it.

I tried and failed big style bastard things bent double and split

This is how I did mine.

It does take a little time and patience.

[town325i]

Dave that was 2 things i didnt have also the second one i dont have any of that at all

[magpie]

this shizzle needs a sticky/wiki.

tried and tested zone information is must

[Dezzy]

You can do a bodge and bend the hard pipes from your E30 pipes using a blow torch to heat them up, but I wouldn't entertain it.

I tried and failed big style bastard things bent double and split

No heat used when I did mine. Pipes are way to thin for me to try warming them. Nice a slow in a vice with nothing but the big guns, all you need.

[town325i]

You can do a bodge and bend the hard pipes from your E30 pipes using a blow torch to heat them up, but I wouldn't entertain it.

I tried and failed big style bastard things bent double and split

No heat used when I did mine. Pipes are way to thin for me to try warming them. Nice a slow in a vice with nothing but the big guns, all you need.

Dezzy fook off i was like a bull in a china shop i had two sets to go at and fooked them both.

[nickso]

You can do a bodge and bend the hard pipes from your E30 pipes using a blow torch to heat them up, but I wouldn't entertain it.

I tried and failed big style bastard things bent double and split

No heat used when I did mine. Pipes are way to thin for me to try warming them. Nice a slow in a vice with nothing but the big guns, all you need.

i bent mine over my knee

going to do it properly this winter though.

[town325i]

going to do it properly this winter though.

That what im going to do on mine hopefully a mate of mine is going to be able to sort me out with them

[Barton]

This is £90 from Pirtek

have you any details for this?

is it for an m20 engined car?

what about the return?

thanks

[Barton]

also, to the guy doing this, again, any info after a successful conversion would be really helpful

[SeymourCake]

alot of hassle to installing this rack kind of puts me off

[Brycey]

Havent managed to do it yet so will have to be done this week sometime

Might blag town into helping me and we'll try and take some good pics etc so can give a proper guide as to whats required and needed etc...

[Dave_M3]

I'll hopefully have TUV approved braided or rubber pipes and full conversion kits after Christmas.

Until then.... Blow-torch and over your keen with a few apropriate sized ring spanners on th original pipes

[drewjak]

funny how every one panics and complains about the pipes, my biggest problem was the steering linkage fouling the exhaust down pipes and locking the steering up if you went round a left hander to quick as the engine shifts slightly and was catching! i tried removing the edges off the steering knuckle which did`nt work, so in the end had to take the down pipes off and give them a little tap in with the hammer which solved it.

the way i did my pipes was to cut them off near the banjos i think i used the e36 pipes then they are allready bent correctly on the rack or near enough for you to help them a bit more then got some old hose pipe so as to get the lengths and the route i needed, connected them with hose clamps removed the banjos from the rack and the pump ,took them to the hydraulics place and they replaced the pipes and connected them up with the correct fittings

i cant belive either how much people are paying to have pipes made, i took my old banjos(3) and they connected them up to appropriate length pipes with detachable ends aswell so i could route my pipes through the gaps with out the metal banjo pipes connected and crimped the fluid bottle on for £25 and it took 15 mins!!

[DanThe]

Wow, it took you 15 minutes to do all that
Impressive

[Dave_M3]

For what you saved in the pipes could have been put into a new set of engine mounts

[BadDave]

alot of hassle to installing this rack kind of puts me off

Once the pipeworks sorted out,It's an hour/ 1 1/2 hrs to do the job, then get the tracking done.
It's not a difficult job

[mc_hawkings24]

Ive never done tracking before but i have the tools at work (no lasers) whats the easy route to doing it? take the wheels off adjust track rod ends put wheels back on repeat repeat until done?

i also used the original pipes by cutting and bending, but its leaking at the pinion

[Brycey]

Well im thinking for the MOT ill remove the belt and drain the fluid and run it as a manual rack so it gives me time to fit the '36 rack properly.

Just means poverty steering for a week or so lol.

Still gotta figure out too why my brake pedal is sticking down and not returning back up

[Dave_M3]

Car will fail the MOT with a PAS rack not functioning as it should.

[StefanAnghel]

Any updates on this infos?
I've done some searches and found out this

M40 engine

Description Supplement Qty From Up To Part Number Price Notes
02 Pressure hose assy 1 06/1988 32411141427
04 Gasket ring A14X20-CUSN ? 32411093596 $0.31
04 Gasket ring A14X20-ALMG ? 32411129986 $0.15
05 HOLLOW BOLT M14X26 ? 06/1994 32411117181 ENDED
05 HOLLOW BOLT M14X1,5X26 ? 32411094908 ENDED
05 HOLLOW BOLT M14X1,5X26 ? 32416783886 $2.11
06 Intake manifold 1 32411133400 $47.88
11 Return pipe 1 06/1988 32411134459 $54.13
12 Hose clamp D=16,6-20MM 2 09/1987 16121180242 $1.08
13 Hose clamp D=20,9-24,1 1 09/1987 32111131345 $2.12
14 Bracket 1 32411127652


M20 engine

Description Supplement Qty From Up To Part Number Price Notes
02 Pressure hose assy 1 06/1988 32411137154
04 Gasket ring A14X20-CUSN ? 32411093596 $0.31
04 Gasket ring A14X20-ALMG ? 32411129986 $0.15
05 HOLLOW BOLT M14X26 ? 06/1994 32411117181 ENDED
05 HOLLOW BOLT M14X1,5X26 ? 32411094908 ENDED
05 HOLLOW BOLT M14X1,5X26 ? 32416783886 $2.11
06 Intake manifold 1 10/1987 32411135936 $49.41
07 Return pipe 1 06/1988 32411134459 $54.13
10 HOLLOW BOLT M16X28 2 32411117182 ENDED
10 HOLLOW BOLT M16X28 2 05/2008 32411094909 $3.45
10 HOLLOW BOLT M16X28 2 32416783887 $3.98
11 Return pipe 1 06/1988 32411134459 $54.13
12 Hose clamp D=16,6-20MM 2 10/1987 16121180242 $1.08
13 Hose clamp D=20,9-24,1 1 10/1987 32111131345 $2.12
14 Bracket 1 32411127652


can someone put up some pictures and measures for pipes for:

e36 rack to M5x steering pump
e36 rack to M20 steering pump
e36 rack to M4x steering pump

[StefanAnghel]

No. Description Supplement Qty From Up To Part Number Price Notes
01 Intake manifold 1 32411138419 $32.68
02 HOLLOW BOLT M16X28 2 09/1995 32411117182 ENDED
02 HOLLOW BOLT M16X28 2 09/1995 32411094909 $3.45
02 HOLLOW BOLT M16X28 2 09/1995 32416783887 $3.98
03 Gasket ring A16X22-CUSN 4 09/1995 32411093597 $0.27
04 Hose clamp L18-24 1 09/1995 07129952109 $1.07
05 Pressure hose assy 1 32412227680 $200.87
only in conjunction with
-- SUPPORT PRESSURE HOSE ASSY 1 32411141219 $1.20
06 HOLLOW BOLT M14X1,5X26 2 09/1995 32416783886 $2.11
07 Gasket ring A14X20-CUSN 4 32411093596 $0.31
08 RETURN PIPE WITH COOLING COIL 1 32411095146 $86.44 +core
09 Hose clamp L15-19 1 07129952107 $0.93
10 Hex Bolt M6X10 2 09/1995 07119913426 $0.25
14 SUPPORT PRESSURE HOSE ASSY 1 32411141219 $1.20